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    Default New To Forum; '89 Hardin Marine Caribbean 21 Ft. +SoCal Restoring Questions!

    Hey everyone, I'm new to the forum! My uncle owned the 1989 Hardin Marine Caribbean below, he had it custom made from Barry at Anaheim Hardin Marine back in the day and is the original owner. It's equipped with a 454 BBC and a berkley jet. I grew up going to Havasu and Laughlin in this boat and absolutely love the way it looks and it's stance in the water. I ended up buying it off him and at this point I'm looking to find out how much I need to dump into the boat to renew some things to my liking. I'm located in So Cal and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for reputable shops that will go through the boat for me without ripping me off.

    I'm looking at renewing a good portion of the boat..New carpet, new seats, new gauges, new gel coat and maybe a motor refresh. I'm also thinking about getting rid of the railing on the bow of the boat and need to somehow replace or rework the tinted windshield (has spider cracks from the sun over the years). I've seen people restore these late 70s-early 90s boats and making them look a little more up to date and I'm leaning towards that. So if anyone has any suggestions, opinions, or can tell me what some of these things would cost based off experience I'm all ears. Also any other advice on not overlooking something that needs updating.

    Here's a pic below, unfortunately it's the only pic I have at this time since I have the boat in storage now. Also I've read almost every thread on here regarding the Hardin Marine Caribbeans but if anyone has any more advice on these hauls/performance or reputation I'm all ears. Based on the boat speedo (no GPS) and years ago on a crystal morning we've hit 68mph with two people, but that was over 8 years ago and not GPS proven. After doing more research it seems like that's probably still unlikely with what speeds other people are hitting with their boats.

    Also, I used to post on the HotBoats forum back in the day, looks like that's long gone. Any other active Jet Boat forums out there that you guys would recommend joining too? Looking to get back into the swing of things and having this boat in the water next summer!

    Anyway I'm all ears!


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    Question, are you planning on paying someone to do a resto and update on your boat? If so, understand that is a labor intensive job to say the least and thus will be pretty pricey. You could very easily drop $15,000 + with just what you mentioned. There are a number of quality boat shops that can handle what your looking for, West Coast Marine is a sponsor here and does some very nice work. RD has a shop he recommends highly, but I don't remember the name off the top of my head, but you could ask on his sight for their name. Most of the people here do what they can themselves when doing the repair and resto on a boat. It's a hobby for most and a passion for some, but it's never cheap even when doing the labor yourself. If you have some mechanical talent, there's allot of people on the boards willing to help you do what ever you're able. Do you have any friends or family that maybe are mechanics that can help? If not, maybe take the boat to one of the shops mentioned and get their opinion. None of us can see what condition the floors and stringers are in, or evaluate the motor condition from a computer. You really need to know these things before you start dropping money. That's my advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICECREAMAN View Post
    Question, are you planning on paying someone to do a resto and update on your boat? If so, understand that is a labor intensive job to say the least and thus will be pretty pricey. You could very easily drop $15,000 + with just what you mentioned. There are a number of quality boat shops that can handle what your looking for, West Coast Marine is a sponsor here and does some very nice work. RD has a shop he recommends highly, but I don't remember the name off the top of my head, but you could ask on his sight for their name. Most of the people here do what they can themselves when doing the repair and resto on a boat. It's a hobby for most and a passion for some, but it's never cheap even when doing the labor yourself. If you have some mechanical talent, there's allot of people on the boards willing to help you do what ever you're able. Do you have any friends or family that maybe are mechanics that can help? If not, maybe take the boat to one of the shops mentioned and get their opinion. None of us can see what condition the floors and stringers are in, or evaluate the motor condition from a computer. You really need to know these things before you start dropping money. That's my advice.
    Yes, I totally understand where you are coming from. I have a 67 GTO that I've restored over the last 10 years. The problem is I don't have much time to be working on the boat myself, not to mention no where to put the boat while working on it. I have family friends with body shops that I could benefit from, maybe get the trailer repainted, etc, but I doubt that they have any experience with gel coating. I think I got an estimate once for $1500 for a re-gel years ago, does that seem too low? I'll be pulling the boat out of storage and looking around for shops closer to winter (where I hope there are better deals since it's the offseason). The Motor was tinkered with by one of my uncle's friends who I think did some head work, I just don't know what he did but I know it ran before it was put away. It may not need a rebuild but definitely a compression check and tune. As for the seats, there are no tears or anything, it's just mostly sun damaged and faded. I'll try to get more pictures once I make another trip out there, I know it'd difficult to tell.

    $15,000 is definitely a lot more than I wanted to spend on the boat. Although I love the boat and grew up on it, at that price I'd probably just sell it and buy something newer/bigger/faster. I'm looking to spend closer to 5-6k on it.

    I'll look into West Coast Marine and look for the proper name for RD. I googled there two companies yesterday, but don't know what their rep is Home and A-1 Marine Interiors | (714) 773-0491 | Boat Upholstery | Yacht Interior Design | Fullerton, CA | Orange County.

    Thanks for your help!

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    IceCreamer, can you please give me more info on West Coast Marine? There are so many of them, not sure which one you recommended.

    I think this one is probably the best match ? :: West Coast Marine Interiors ::

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    Yes, That's the right West Coast Marine, also here's the link to Isalnder Marine that i believe RD recommends. Islander Marine

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    I would also recommend Islander Marine. I just had my boat completely redone there. As for the interior I would recommend Premier Marine Interiors Carlos did mine and came out amazing.

    Here is a link of my boat, there is some before and after pics and at the bottom is some interior pics...

    http://www.performanceboats.com/jet-...er-marine.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBC View Post
    I would also recommend Islander Marine. I just had my boat completely redone there. As for the interior I would recommend Premier Marine Interiors Carlos did mine and came out amazing.<br>
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    Here is a link of my boat, there is some before and after pics and at the bottom is some interior pics...<br>
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    <a href="http://www.performanceboats.com/jet-boats/89756-winter-summer-project-done-islander-marine.html" target="_blank">http://www.performanceboats.com/jet-boats/89756-winter-summer-project-done-islander-marine.html</a>
    <br><br>Wow RBC your boat looks great! &nbsp;Definitely like how it looks minus the railing alone the bow of the boat, that's something that I'm interested in doing also. The interior looks great also! Is there any chance you can possibly PM me and let me know how much the interior and gel coat cost you? &nbsp;I've been calling a few places so I'm getting a better idea of what I'm looking at for everything I want to get done, but at the end of the day I gotta still trailer the boat to a few shops and get solid quotes. P.S. I really love the reverse air scoop/vent on the rear deck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VezyV View Post
    Hey everyone, I'm new to the forum! My uncle owned the 1989 Hardin Marine Caribbean below, he had it custom made from Barry at Anaheim Hardin Marine back in the day and is the original owner. It's equipped with a 454 BBC and a berkley jet. I grew up going to Havasu and Laughlin in this boat and absolutely love the way it looks and it's stance in the water. I ended up buying it off him and at this point I'm looking to find out how much I need to dump into the boat to renew some things to my liking. I'm located in So Cal and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for reputable shops that will go through the boat for me without ripping me off.

    I'm looking at renewing a good portion of the boat..New carpet, new seats, new gauges, new gel coat and maybe a motor refresh. I'm also thinking about getting rid of the railing on the bow of the boat and need to somehow replace or rework the tinted windshield (has spider cracks from the sun over the years). I've seen people restore these late 70s-early 90s boats and making them look a little more up to date and I'm leaning towards that. So if anyone has any suggestions, opinions, or can tell me what some of these things would cost based off experience I'm all ears. Also any other advice on not overlooking something that needs updating.

    Here's a pic below, unfortunately it's the only pic I have at this time since I have the boat in storage now. Also I've read almost every thread on here regarding the Hardin Marine Caribbeans but if anyone has any more advice on these hauls/performance or reputation I'm all ears. Based on the boat speedo (no GPS) and years ago on a crystal morning we've hit 68mph with two people, but that was over 8 years ago and not GPS proven. After doing more research it seems like that's probably still unlikely with what speeds other people are hitting with their boats.

    Also, I used to post on the HotBoats forum back in the day, looks like that's long gone. Any other active Jet Boat forums out there that you guys would recommend joining too? Looking to get back into the swing of things and having this boat in the water next summer!

    Anyway I'm all ears!


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    Hi, I know this is an older post, but I was wondering if you ever got your boat going? I have a 21ft Hardin Marine Cariribean as well. Mine is an open bow and has a OMC 350 in it. I've had mine a little over a year, but I've never seen another. Yours is the closest one I've seen. I am also in So Cal. Here is a picture of mine. If you haven't changed yours, I would keep it old school. It is nice having a boat that doesn't look like every other 21 footer out there. I get a ton of comments on mine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VezyV View Post
    Hey everyone, I'm new to the forum! My uncle owned the 1989 Hardin Marine Caribbean below, he had it custom made from Barry at Anaheim Hardin Marine back in the day and is the original owner. It's equipped with a 454 BBC and a berkley jet. I grew up going to Havasu and Laughlin in this boat and absolutely love the way it looks and it's stance in the water. I ended up buying it off him and at this point I'm looking to find out how much I need to dump into the boat to renew some things to my liking. I'm located in So Cal and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for reputable shops that will go through the boat for me without ripping me off.

    I'm looking at renewing a good portion of the boat..New carpet, new seats, new gauges, new gel coat and maybe a motor refresh. I'm also thinking about getting rid of the railing on the bow of the boat and need to somehow replace or rework the tinted windshield (has spider cracks from the sun over the years). I've seen people restore these late 70s-early 90s boats and making them look a little more up to date and I'm leaning towards that. So if anyone has any suggestions, opinions, or can tell me what some of these things would cost based off experience I'm all ears. Also any other advice on not overlooking something that needs updating.

    Here's a pic below, unfortunately it's the only pic I have at this time since I have the boat in storage now. Also I've read almost every thread on here regarding the Hardin Marine Caribbeans but if anyone has any more advice on these hauls/performance or reputation I'm all ears. Based on the boat speedo (no GPS) and years ago on a crystal morning we've hit 68mph with two people, but that was over 8 years ago and not GPS proven. After doing more research it seems like that's probably still unlikely with what speeds other people are hitting with their boats.

    Also, I used to post on the HotBoats forum back in the day, looks like that's long gone. Any other active Jet Boat forums out there that you guys would recommend joining too? Looking to get back into the swing of things and having this boat in the water next summer!

    Anyway I'm all ears!


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    Dales speed and marine, Hesperia. some of the best work I have ever seen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corney13 View Post
    Hi, I know this is an older post, but I was wondering if you ever got your boat going? I have a 21ft Hardin Marine Cariribean as well. Mine is an open bow and has a OMC 350 in it. I've had mine a little over a year, but I've never seen another. Yours is the closest one I've seen. I am also in So Cal. Here is a picture of mine. If you haven't changed yours, I would keep it old school. It is nice having a boat that doesn't look like every other 21 footer out there. I get a ton of comments on mine!

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    These Carribeans are cool boats! I agree about keeping it old school. That's what gives it character, and increases the value over time.

    Michael

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    Default 1984 21' Caribbean Empress BR Jet Boat

    I have an 1984 21' Caribbean Empress BR Jet Boat. I bought this from the original owner. It's only been in AZ and MN. I have rebuilt the pump, added a Place Diverter, replaced the floor, carpet, and the interior was new when I purchased the boat.
    The engine has had a few upgrades, Cam, intake, carb, and new Alum heads are going on this fall to let this 454 big block breathe! White hull, 5 blues, and a maroon pinstripe.
    This boat gets complements every time I take it out, "Sweet Eliminator" thanks but it's a Caribbean! This classic gel coat gets complements all the time, people all think that it's a late '90's boat. No one can believe that this boat is 32 years old.
    I to was thinking of lowering the front of the grab rail to make it level from front to back, everyone tells me to leave it be, it looks great. Classic boat lines do not go out of style, and this is one of those boats! Keep it original and enjoy all of the complements that you will receive!
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    Dude, your steering wheel is on the wrong side

    Nice boat, you do realize this thread is 5 years old

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