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    I am looking at purchasing a 2003 Honda F12x Turbo Jet ski that is for sale. I would be purchasing this to transplant the engine and pump into my 12' mini Addictor speed boat (which is currently an outboard 40hp). The ski has almost 200 hours on it. The seller is selling for parts only, and states that the engine will turn over, but they do not have the tether cord.

    My questions:
    1. Are the tether cords universal or do they have electronic technology built in that is individual to each ski?
    2. Is 200 hours something to worry about for a 2003?
    3. What should I check on the ski when I go in? I plan to check cylinder pressure. Are there any other key things I can check on site when I go to look at it? I want to make sure the pump is good as well...what do I look for there?
    4. Will fiberglass and epoxy resin bond well with the fiberglass reinforced plastic hull of the ski when i retrofit it to my addictor hull?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LIL WAKE View Post
    I am looking at purchasing a 2003 Honda F12x Turbo Jet ski that is for sale. I would be purchasing this to transplant the engine and pump into my 12' mini Addictor speed boat (which is currently an outboard 40hp). The ski has almost 200 hours on it. The seller is selling for parts only, and states that the engine will turn over, but they do not have the tether cord.

    My questions:
    1. Are the tether cords universal or do they have electronic technology built in that is individual to each ski?
    2. Is 200 hours something to worry about for a 2003?
    3. What should I check on the ski when I go in? I plan to check cylinder pressure. Are there any other key things I can check on site when I go to look at it? I want to make sure the pump is good as well...what do I look for there?
    4. Will fiberglass and epoxy resin bond well with the fiberglass reinforced plastic hull of the ski when i retrofit it to my addictor hull?
    We have a 2003 honda F12X as well. just under 200hrs.

    1. you can start it by pulling out the switch where the tether slides in to start it. so no
    2. 200 hrs. its a honda thats nothing
    3.??
    4.??
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    Ohh glad to catch someone who owns one!! Thanks for the quick reply rvrskir. The seller sates they can't get the actual hours off the display because they don't have the tether...that didn't make sense to me, as I would think that you could just pull the pin out that the tether holds and the display should work? is that accurate as well? I only know the approx hours because whoever changed the oil last dated and marked the hours on the oil filter.

    also, anyone else have any suggestions for things to check on the jet ski to make sure the pump/engine are in great shape?
    Thanks!

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    You might want to take a battery. The control panel should come on when the kill switch is pulled. If you have a battery with youll know for sure. I think epoxy resin sticks to everything. I have a turbo. If you look in the pump and the suction housing around the impeller is ruff. Thats normal.
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    That's a good idea. I will take a battery with in case theirs is dead. So any roughness in the pump cavity and impeller is normal? Is that the texture of the material used. I would think it would be smooth, especially the impeller.

    What are some other typical things to check on a ski guys? Thanks!

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    [QUOTE=LIL WAKE;1523677]That's a good idea. I will take a battery with in case theirs is dead. So any roughness in the pump cavity and impeller is normal? Is that the texture of the material used. I would think it would be smooth, especially the impeller.

    Thats what I thought originally, but after looking into the intake you'll see that the suction housing is pitted. After thinking about it, any cavitation is impacting the suction, (causing the pitting). The impellers are are not shrouded. When the h2o is split into is base elements, the molecules fly apart impacting the suction making the pits. (I know there is ALLOT more to cavitation, please don't flame me)
    I discovered this after having a tow rope sucked (done by a friend). Was shocked at what I saw. I take great care of my pump. Never run in less then 3 feet of water etc.... . Concerned, I checked in my friends Yamaha. It looked the same. This was about 20 hours on the hour meter on both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LIL WAKE View Post
    Ohh glad to catch someone who owns one!! Thanks for the quick reply rvrskir. The seller sates they can't get the actual hours off the display because they don't have the tether...that didn't make sense to me, as I would think that you could just pull the pin out that the tether holds and the display should work? is that accurate as well? I only know the approx hours because whoever changed the oil last dated and marked the hours on the oil filter.

    also, anyone else have any suggestions for things to check on the jet ski to make sure the pump/engine are in great shape?
    Thanks!
    Yeah just pull it out and hold it there and you can look at the screen. hit the mode button to cycle thru choices. (hours, time, running time, and miles)
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    being an owner of the same model do you have any other recommendations of what to look at on it when I go on Monday night? Have you had any problems, or know any other owners of the same model that have had any problems that I should be aware of? I appreciate your help!

    Thanks!

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    Do us boaters a favor and pull the plug on it next time out on the water

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    That's...hilarious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LIL WAKE View Post
    being an owner of the same model do you have any other recommendations of what to look at on it when I go on Monday night? Have you had any problems, or know any other owners of the same model that have had any problems that I should be aware of? I appreciate your help!

    Thanks!
    No problems with ours!!! runs great does 65mph
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    The 200 hours would not concern me. "It's a Honda", they are grossly detuned for reliability. And the engineering is as complete on the jet skis as all the other products Honda markets. Baring any major engine damage, the only thing you might be concerned with are the valve adjustments. I think it's a 100hr interval. The deal with them is honda uses a shim for the adjustment, not the screw. I understand the shim's are quite expensive, remember these motors have 16 valves to buy shims for.
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    BIG THANKS to rvrskir and schick! I appreciate your guys input on this ski. This ski is up for auction and the auction ends tomorrow. I took a 45 min drive to check this ski out tonight and everything looked great for what I need. I am hoping to get the winning bid on this ski tomorrow. I will let you guys know how I do! This could be a fun little project!

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    Well I was outbid. The other bidder must have had a really high auto bid set up, and I even bid past amount I set in my head (it's so easy to do when the clocks tickin!). I am now looking at a 1997 Yamaha GP1200 which has 135HP...still much more than would be necessary for the tiny boat its going in! Since the GP1200 isn't turbo charged there is less mechanics to go wrong and less headaches for me. I'm going tomorrow night to check this ski out. The nice thing is it's at a Pawn Shop that may even be willing to take my outboard 40HP motor in for partial trade for the ski! I'll let you all know how it pans out! Thanks again!

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