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    Default Merry X Mass to Me!!!

    Had my old balancer spray welded and fixed!!!! 90 bucks central metalizing in Saginaw!!!! Going to finish the motor up tomorrow tape it off and do the final paint touch up, get the boat out of storage and stuff the motor for my New Year gala event!!! Then next I'm pretty sure I'm going to send the carbs out and convert to E 85. Seems like with todays gas you never know for sure what you are getting and I see a lot of burned pistons. Never used to see burned pistons on big blocks, just snomobiles. I guess the e 85 is higher octane, burns cooler and pretty much elimenates the burned piston thing. Supposedly uses 1/3 more fuel. If you used to burn 10 galons you will now burn 13. Still a lot cheaper than a 10,000 dollar motor every 2 years. 550 bucks to have a guy in Minnesota convert boost reference and flow test the carbs. Thinkin' thats whats happinen'. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL, pic's to follow!!!
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    There is no e 85 up here.. maybe west branch. That shit is more trouble than it's worth. If your burning pistons in a car motor your doing it wrong. But get that damn thing in there!
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    Bill you'll be fine on E85 its about the equivalent of 105 octane ,and you can bump timing up a little runs cool probably get frost on your blower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Violater View Post
    I'm going to fire it up with gas since I have everything all set up. My kid is the one who has burned down 4 motors in the last two years. I spent the time on my blown 468 in my Sanger made sure the jetting was right and propped and geared right, ran it for 3 years then put the motor in that Schiada and ran it for 2 summers. Didn't actually have THAT many hours on it, maybe 100 but it still had the same spark plugs in it when I sold it and NEVER missed a beat on pump gas. However, I really haven't had anything high performance of my own running in the last two years, times change faster than me. Plus I really have never had a performance I/O just V-Drives and Outboards. According to my son he was just cruising down the river at about 3200 rpm's with 2 of his buddies in his Warlock and it burned a piston, plus the thing spun all the mains. Never seen anybody but him burn up motors like that. All I know is it is a LOT more work and money than I want to do every year so if I make any choices it will be on the conservative side. The gas thing kind of scares me these days. Race fuel is too expensive, poa going to the airport with 55 galon drums. right now my 572 is 8 to 1 with an old 871 gm blower with a ton of clearance at 12% overdrive, maybe will make about 8 to 10 lbs. of boost at 6000 rpm's. Thats where I want it to peak, around 5800 rpm's.

    We and the state dock sell the 90 oct corn juice free, I've got a couple blown 540's and some 'cruiser hp 500's set up on that and works great. If you want to use that boat having it run on e 85 is going to be pain in the ass for availiability, not to mention it's wonderful properties. I have a pile of scrap carbs, fuel pumps, and fuel tanks to show for ethanol. For cars it's great. Boats, meh.

    We were young once too Bill and motors don't spin mains at 3200 lol! I can't wait to go for a spin. I'll have to look through my 'cruiser piles, I think I still have some big oil coolers we can hook jr up with.

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    Bill talk to Kyle
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    Okay whatever....

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    Metering blocks. boosters, different needles and seats, power valve, it's a fucking pain in the ass to set up a standard carb to e 85, though now I'm sure someone sells kits, and holley prolly offers off the shelf carbs now. Fuel injection is a wonderful thing.

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    You'll be very happy with them Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Violater View Post
    I talked to a guy in Minnesota that Brian used to convert his. Does the boost reference thing converts them and has his own dyno with a Big motor that he puts the carbs on and actually runs and jets them close for what your doing. 550 bucks, doesn't sound like a bad deal. Probably cost me 200 to do them myself and it take me 2 summers.

    That is a good deal. We did a friends 540 in a Camino when the corn juice craze first hit and it was a total pain in the ass. It did run good, but the milage went from bad to useless IN an already useless car lol.

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    Lynn, wtf...you hitting the injector oil?
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    Nope, pre mix. Not a big corn juice fan. Anyhoo, carry on.

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    Well I have never used the stuff.. If I had a gas motor I think I would dabble with it. I have noticed quite a few guys in the club running E-85, and every year someone else joins the ranks of E-85. They seem to make dependable power and having fun with there boats. I don't see any of them going back to gas...hmmm..guess the stuff is just shit. But understanding E-85 is not approved for wackers I see your opinion.
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    E85 is some cool stuff and has a great octane equivalency rating. Not USCG approved (since when has go-fast people cared about that) because it degrades fiberglass quickly and loves to absorb water. Make sure you run a fuel stabilizer. It has the potential to make a gob of power when done right. Good Luck! I have wanted to build something that runs on it.

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    talk to rat about e-85 hes run it for a long time with a blower and with out kyle baught rats carbs and only run them for a week but he does have the tune charts from the guy that rat had build them and now getting to mark putnam hes making stupid horsepower on e85 and had to take boost out cause hes making to much horsepower but he is running fuel injection alot different then carbs but dont be afraid to try it I havent tried it myself but Ive worked on rat motor alot I am running it on my new turbo motor but it hasent been started yet its all new and all the miejers around here sell it so its easy to get.

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