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    I hear there are a couple good machine shops in the Waterford, MI area, anyone have suggestions? I need to drop a BBC off to get some work done before spring.

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    Dave
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    Dave there is one on Baldwin rd. that is supposed to be reputable cant remember the name,,,, its off 75 towards pontiac on the left I will get the name for you alot closer than Livonia ( no offence kevin)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdsheppie View Post
    Dave there is one on Baldwin rd. that is supposed to be reputable cant remember the name,,,, its off 75 towards pontiac on the left I will get the name for you alot closer than Livonia ( no offence kevin)
    That's the place I keep hearing about and that's right down the street from me (literally). Is it Baldwin Machining? (248) 335-1518

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    Thats the place

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    Just got off the phone with "Buck" from Baldwin Machining. His suggestion for the 396 was to get the "dump truck forged crank", 7/16" dimpled rods, Clevite #8 bearings, ARP rod bolts and balance the whole thing. Sound like some good advice? I'm planning to drop this motor into Shep's V-drive in the Spring.

    He used to own a 21ft Sleekcraft with a 455 and Jacuzzi pump w/ an energizer kit. Said he stepped up to a 28ft offshore.

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    Sounds about right I have a "dump truck forged crank" if you need it I think its .010 ,.010...#6223

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    The only thing I would change is the rods. For a little more than what it costs to re-con a set of stock rods with arp bolts you can get a set of offshore h-beams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanger rat View Post
    The only thing I would change is the rods. For a little more than what it costs to re-con a set of stock rods with arp bolts you can get a set of offshore h-beams.
    Mike just texted me that he has a set for a deal.

    Shep, shoot me a message if you're willing to part with the crank.

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    Text sent to you Dave

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    Crank acquired (Thanks Shep)
    Oil pan, pick-up, windage and pump acquired (Thanks again Shep)
    Rods are on their way (Thanks Mike, I'll mail you the check as soon as I get your address)

    Short Block
    -Isky cam 396284/294 - (INT./EXH.) .578/.608, 284/294 ADV, 238/248 @ .050, 110 lobe
    -Hydraulic Roller lifters either Crane or Isky
    -Double roller cam? Suggestions?
    -Lock plate for cam?
    -Need suggestions on pistons!

    Long Block
    -049 big oval port heads with new valves
    -Isky Springs PN 8005-A, steel retainers, and poly locks (already installed in the heads)
    -Steel Roller tip rockers
    -Going to need stud girdles?
    -Edlebrock dual plane intake
    -Still need a carb, thinking 750cfm

    What else am I missing? Any advice is appreciated. Should be dropping parts off at the machine shop in the morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkidminoltu View Post
    Crank acquired (Thanks Shep)
    Oil pan, pick-up, windage and pump acquired (Thanks again Shep)
    Rods are on their way (Thanks Mike, I'll mail you the check as soon as I get your address)

    Short Block
    -Isky cam 396284/294 - (INT./EXH.) .578/.608, 284/294 ADV, 238/248 @ .050, 110 lobe
    -Hydraulic Roller lifters either Crane or Isky
    -Double roller cam? Suggestions?
    -Lock plate for cam?
    -Need suggestions on pistons!

    Long Block
    -049 big oval port heads with new valves
    -Isky Springs PN 8005-A, steel retainers, and poly locks (already installed in the heads)
    -Steel Roller tip rockers
    -Going to need stud girdles?
    -Edlebrock dual plane intake
    -Still need a carb, thinking 750cfm

    What else am I missing? Any advice is appreciated. Should be dropping parts off at the machine shop in the morning.
    Dave...I might have a new lock plate with hardware....you can have it if I can find it..Don't waste money on a girdle...you have a hyd cam, which will never see mid 6k rpm..you are not building a lake rocket with long legs.. Also keep in mind that you only need 450-500 HP for the boat you are looking at...and 500HP is crazy high side.. A cam that you might consider..http://www.dougherbert.com/bb-chevy-...9888.html...as with any roller cam, install a button
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    Michael its got a cam driven water pump,and I got a carb for you and a distributer...
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    The block and parts were dropped off at the machine shop this morning. I talked with the guy up front and he seemed comfortable with what I was after.

    I called up Doug Herbert and spoke with their technical guy Tim. After getting my basics and what I was after he gave me two options on cams. I asked about reversion and he said going to a 112 lobe center will reduce the chances of that.

    CBH8 (10.1:1 comp) 245/255 dur, .595/.610 112 lobe. His experience with marine applications shows that you lose about 700-800RPM off the top end of the cam so the useable range here would be up to 6000 max RPM on this application.
    http://www.dougherbert.com/bb-chevy-...ams-33789.html

    CBH5 (9.1:1) 230/235 @ .050, .595/.610 112 lobe. 5800 max RPM
    http://www.dougherbert.com/bb-chevy-...ams-33787.html

    Once the shop gets the block cleaned up and I drop off the rods we'll come to an agreement on piston and compression ratio and I'll pick the cam. I'm thinking of going 10.1, why not?

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