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  • 09-13-2010, 10:24 PM
    s2k1
    Tom, sounds like you have a good plan now. I'll share my experience any ways.
    On my turbo Honda S2000 engine, I run Darton sleeves with copper o-rings in the sleeves. Stock Honda MLS head gasket, ARP studs. 11:1 static, 28 psi, methanol, 9000 rpm, no gasket problems. 4 head bolts per cylinder.
  • 09-13-2010, 06:40 AM
    IMPATIENT 1
    Quote Originally Posted by alkyexpress View Post
    That turb setup looks nice .......... E

    thanx, hope to hear the damn thing run soon

    Quote Originally Posted by DEL51 View Post
    I think the LSX blocks weigh as much as a bare 9.8 big block.
    this motor weighs 432lbs as it sits on the stand(i weighed stand, then used dirttrack scales under it lol)

  • 09-10-2010, 07:11 PM
    DEL51
    I think the LSX blocks weigh as much as a bare 9.8 big block.
  • 09-10-2010, 06:29 PM
    alkyexpress
    Quote Originally Posted by IMPATIENT 1 View Post
    here's a pic of my detonation control and ic
    That turb setup looks nice .......... E
  • 09-10-2010, 02:03 PM
    IMPATIENT 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Bruise Brothers Dad View Post
    If you look at his car he has a very large heat exchanger that uses chilled water ( you have a lake full of chilled water) to cool the intake air. At the end of the 1/4 mile pass the air temp going into the cylinder is 92*, not bad when you are compressing that much air. Really helps control the detonation. They say more hp is never enough
    here's a pic of my detonation control and ic
  • 09-09-2010, 02:53 PM
    IMPATIENT 1
    i've settled on oringing and receiver grooves, go with whats known to work. would've liked to try those cometics but im not a gamblin man, and 500 to try is too much coin for me to play with and find out it dont cut it if i ever hurt the engine i run next season, ill give titan ics gaskets a try, i know they work tempted to try them to start with but fall is upon us in okie land and ive got nothing but time at this point
  • 09-09-2010, 02:41 PM
    1QuickCP
    O ring,reciever groove and copper flatout rubber coated gaskets...will hold anything you can put to it until the studs let go.

    Ive built stuff with everything and the above works best..end of story.

    The absoloute best way is to oring the head and groove the block but its a major pain and rings fall out ect ect..so its hardly ever done. but it is a fact that it holds more pressure, as the copper will lock better into the groove in the cast iron than the aluminium of the head. But it is not needed.

    figure is your runnin 50 psi boost with 11-1 static on alky with ZERO leaks it holds pretty good....lol
  • 09-09-2010, 09:36 AM
    IMPATIENT 1
    ok, those gaskets are outttta the question!!!! nearly 500 bucks a set! cheaper route is oring and copper
  • 09-09-2010, 09:20 AM
    IMPATIENT 1
    pretty neat gaskets tho:


    The gas filled o-ring portion of Phuzion is manufactured from high strength aerospace tubing capable of withstanding ultra high combustion temperatures and pressures. Additionally each ring is plated with silver to increase the sealing level and minimize brinelling. The silver also aids in withstanding head to block movements without burnishing the surfaces. The real innovation to the gas filled o-ring though, is the gas itself. During the manufacturing process the gas in the ring is sealed in at 500-600 psi at room temperature. As the engine is warmed up, the gas is heated increasing the pressure inside the ring causing it to expand. This allows the ring to seal the combustion even in the event of head liftoff.
    The MLS gasket portion of Phuzion is what gives you the ability to use the gas filled o-rings without machining any grooves in your block and/or head. MLS head gaskets are comprised of three layers. Viton coated embossed spring steel outer layers and a steel inner layer, which provides support and thickness to the gasket. Embossments on the MLS gasket allow for proper seal around oil and water passages.




    we had really good luck with titan ics gaskets on the big turb motor up until last weekend i got alil timing greedy and pushed water into the oil. they have a firering in between the copper around the combustion chamber that packs further into the gasket if the heads lift at all, worked pretty good for a long while. he has resued em a few times and i think it caught up with me saturday on the last pass i did and only high boost pass i got to make
  • 09-09-2010, 08:05 AM
    gn7
    The Cometics Phuziuon. Old technology from NASA. They use it in the refineries for super hi heat and pressure when grafoil won't quite cut it. It works. Its expensive. The 4 cam Fords were using it at INDY, as were some of the Buicks. The Cosworths, and Chevy-Ilmor were designed from the get go for the cylinder pressures.

    http://www.cometic.com/phuzion.aspx



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  • 09-09-2010, 07:51 AM
    IMPATIENT 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Infomaniac View Post
    nitrogen filled o ring. Sounds like a marketing gimick to me.

    I guess it would expand when it gets hot but ??????????

    The o ring will be machined into the sleeve not the deck. The aluminum part of the deck can do whatever it wants to.

    But I'm always interested in whats going on with the LS stuff.
    I would love to build a twin turbo LSX 427
    me too we built a 455 lsx for my neighbor who's gta 02 firebird show car he drags sometimes, it chassis dyno'd at 623 to the wheels, and is only 11 to 1. if i had the $$$ to build a lsx, id run a 454 lsx with twin 1.1ar small turbine s480's, sob would be unstoppable in a dragboat

    betting those cometics are jus as much as the machine work to run copper, sob's are all high from cometics. every ls site ive read up on has teh gm 5layer mls jus straight up out performing the cometic ls gaskets anyways, guys who've tried the basic style always go back to the gm's.
  • 09-09-2010, 07:45 AM
    IMPATIENT 1
    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    I need help. I have this 1955, 265 chevy, of course 2 bolt, but a STEEL crank.
    Anyways, I want to built this bad ass turbo deal. I was thinking 65-70 lbs of boost with a 300HP shot. Maybe a little nitro to wake things up. I was wondering? Do you think the steel shim head gaskets are up to the job?I know there better blocks and stuff out there, but this thing is already laying around in my garage, and I think I can make it work.


    Hey Impatient. LSX!!!!!!!
    lol i get what your sayin but sometimes a person will do things jus to say he did it, that's the kinda guy i am if i had the coin for a lsx block, trust me we wouldnt even be talking bout headgaskets, those blocks have 5 bolts per cylinder. gotta keep in mind i have several cast iron blocked 5.3's , a 6.0 and now a couple of all alum 5.3's i can play with that cost me nothing , actually got paid to replace em its looking more and more like the cast iron block is the way to go even tho its heavier, but it offers the best tq retention on the heads when using some type of sealing aid type gasket or orings. jus weighin my options and looking for the cheapest route as usual
  • 09-09-2010, 07:39 AM
    Infomaniac
    nitrogen filled o ring. Sounds like a marketing gimick to me.

    I guess it would expand when it gets hot but ??????????

    The o ring will be machined into the sleeve not the deck. The aluminum part of the deck can do whatever it wants to.

    But I'm always interested in whats going on with the LS stuff.
    I would love to build a twin turbo LSX 427
  • 09-09-2010, 07:37 AM
    gn7
    I need help. I have this 1955, 265 chevy, of course 2 bolt, but a STEEL crank.
    Anyways, I want to built this bad ass turbo deal. I was thinking 65-70 lbs of boost with a 300HP shot. Maybe a little nitro to wake things up. I was wondering? Do you think the steel shim head gaskets are up to the job?I know there better blocks and stuff out there, but this thing is already laying around in my garage, and I think I can make it work.


    Hey Impatient. LSX!!!!!!!



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