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  • 04-30-2012, 02:18 PM
    AzMandella
    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Obviously it goes without saying that greed knows no political, social, or economic boundries.......... It is human trait.....much like willful stupdity
    But for you it is more fun to just go after the right for it huh ? As I said before. If you were a real free thinker you would have just as many threads started by you attacking the left for doing the same thing as the right does that you bitch about.
  • 04-30-2012, 12:38 PM
    058
    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    I thought I said way more than you deserved

    I actually support mostly all religon's moral teachings.

    Shouldn't you by now realize I am not a liberal in all matters?

    You have to admit, when Conservatives get '"Caught" there is more of a hypocracy factor that is too fun too ignore.



    BTW why is a greedy person like you wasting valuable money making time talking to a ungreedy retired zombie ? Better get to work ya sloth or the other greedy bastards will eat your lunch
    Now that was pretty funny...even from the 'ol Zom. I'm home because there is no work. Business is still pretty slow and not expected to pick up until mid May or later. "It's the economy, stupid" Just got off the phone with one of my customers and he is dead in the water so I sit as well. As for "getting caught" Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. As posted we are all guilty of the seven deadly sins but I still don't and never will understand the double standard libs have when ever a conservative gets caught violating one of the seven sins....They are like little children pointing fingers yelling "Neeener...neener....neeener!" BTW....WTF does "neeneer" mean?
  • 04-30-2012, 12:21 PM
    zombie
    Quote Originally Posted by 058 View Post
    Well....thats more than I expected even though you say little. You say many lives have been ruined due to greed and lying. Many more lives have been ruined or lost to alcoholism, smoking, wars, accidents, desease, and old age so does that mean we need to legislate and control greed along with the examples I cited? I also find it curious that you use the "seven deadly sins" quote, since when do you use religion to make your case? So, in your opinion how does one control greed as we would jealousy and hate? Of the seven deadly sins we are all guilty of all seven at one time or another, and all are normal human emotions. For example Gluttony....How many times have you gone out to dinner and ordered the 20oz cut of prime rib? Pride: Are you not proud of your boat[s] your guns and other possessions or your personal accomplishments? Sloth: Ever just lay in bed on a rainey Sunday morning or veg in front of the TV just because you didn't feel like doing anything? Lust: Don't tell me that you didn't lust after your wife/girlfriend and enjoyed the tempations of the flesh...don't lie now. I also find it strange that you of all the liberals use the seven deadly sins in an attempt to make your case. Liberals are of the thinking that anything is ok like lying, cheating and deception since almost all libs give a free pass to other libs who get caught. The only time they become rightious is when a conservative gets caught doing the same as the lib that got caught.

    I thought I said way more than you deserved

    I actually support mostly all religon's moral teachings.

    Shouldn't you by now realize I am not a liberal in all matters?

    You have to admit, when Conservatives get '"Caught" there is more of a hypocracy factor that is too fun too ignore.



    BTW why is a greedy person like you wasting valuable money making time talking to a ungreedy retired zombie ?
    Better get to work ya sloth or the other greedy bastards will eat your lunch
  • 04-30-2012, 11:55 AM
    058
    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Greed has never been what makes me get up in the morning!!!

    Greed is not good! It is one of the seven deadly sins!! Greed is a part of humaness we must control. Like jealously and hate.
    I think "greed" is similar to obsenity and lying.

    A Supreme court Judge once said something to the effect of " He could not define obsenity but he sure knows it when he sees it" ! This appies to greed too... We may not be able to define greed in all situations but we sure know it when we see it!

    Greed and lying are both considered bad human traits. However, both are useful at certain low levels ... Yes, some greed can be a positive motivator for success. Little white lies can keep social situations, friendships , and marriages running smoothly.

    Excessive greed and lying that causes harm is not a good thing. Greed, like lying, to gain power over other is not a good thing.

    Many lives have been ruined due to greed and lying.
    Well....thats more than I expected even though you say little. You say many lives have been ruined due to greed and lying. Many more lives have been ruined or lost to alcoholism, smoking, wars, accidents, desease, and old age so does that mean we need to legislate and control greed along with the examples I cited? I also find it curious that you use the "seven deadly sins" quote, since when do you use religion to make your case? So, in your opinion how does one control greed as we would jealousy and hate? Of the seven deadly sins we are all guilty of all seven at one time or another, and all are normal human emotions. For example Gluttony....How many times have you gone out to dinner and ordered the 20oz cut of prime rib? Pride: Are you not proud of your boat[s] your guns and other possessions or your personal accomplishments? Sloth: Ever just lay in bed on a rainey Sunday morning or veg in front of the TV just because you didn't feel like doing anything? Lust: Don't tell me that you didn't lust after your wife/girlfriend and enjoyed the tempations of the flesh...don't lie now. I also find it strange that you of all the liberals use the seven deadly sins in an attempt to make your case. Liberals are of the thinking that anything is ok like lying, cheating and deception since almost all libs give a free pass to other libs who get caught. The only time they become rightious is when a conservative gets caught doing the same as the lib that got caught.
  • 04-30-2012, 11:24 AM
    zombie
    Quote Originally Posted by Cas View Post
    blah blah blah, still a non answer. Everyone has greed for many different things. Some are greedy for knowledge, some for money, some for power...there's a multitude of reasons. You keep bringing up greedy right wingers but what about the greedy lowlifes that want more and more for doing nothing? How about the left wing loons that are greedy to get and use others hard earned money to give those lowlifes more? Too much of anything can be a bad thing.
    Obviously it goes without saying that greed knows no political, social, or economic boundries.......... It is human trait.....much like willful stupdity
  • 04-30-2012, 11:05 AM
    Cas
    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Greed has never been what makes me get up in the morning!!!

    Greed is not good! It is one of the seven deadly sins!! Greed is a part of humaness we must control. Like jealously and hate.

    I think "greed" is similar to obsenity and lying.

    A Supreme court Judge once said something to the effect of " He could not define obsenity but he sure knows it when he sees it" ! This appies to greed too... We may not be able to define greed in all situations but we sure know it when we see it!

    Greed and lying are both considered bad human traits. However, both are useful at certain low levels ... Yes, some greed can be a positive motivator for success. Little white lies can keep social situations, friendships , and marriages running smoothly.

    Excessive greed and lying that causes harm is not a good thing. Greed, like lying, to gain power over other is not a good thing.

    Many lives have been ruined due to greed and lying.
    blah blah blah, still a non answer. Everyone has greed for many different things. Some are greedy for knowledge, some for money, some for power...there's a multitude of reasons. You keep bringing up greedy right wingers but what about the greedy lowlifes that want more and more for doing nothing? How about the left wing loons that are greedy to get and use others hard earned money to give those lowlifes more? Too much of anything can be a bad thing.
  • 04-30-2012, 10:26 AM
    zombie
    Quote Originally Posted by 058 View Post
    Greed is good....It is what makes us get up in the morning to go to work. It is the driving force behind a more comfortable and secure life. It is the inspiration to improve. It is what drives us....If you have no greed then a space under the freeway overpass to lay your blanket will suffice. A bowl of soup at the Our lady of Angels Mission once a day will be all you will need. Sleeping in doorways will be your future. So Zombie lets talk some more about greed.....lets hear you demonize greed. And if you do then you further expand your scope of hypocracy or make an excuse for you working before you retired, with a comfortable pension I might add. I await your response with eager anticipation but I will not hold my breath waiting for your well thought out, concise and intelligent response.

    Greed has never been what makes me get up in the morning!!!

    Greed is not good! It is one of the seven deadly sins!! Greed is a part of humaness we must control. Like jealously and hate.

    I think "greed" is similar to obsenity and lying.

    A Supreme court Judge once said something to the effect of " He could not define obsenity but he sure knows it when he sees it" ! This appies to greed too... We may not be able to define greed in all situations but we sure know it when we see it!

    Greed and lying are both considered bad human traits. However, both are useful at certain low levels ... Yes, some greed can be a positive motivator for success. Little white lies can keep social situations, friendships , and marriages running smoothly.

    Excessive greed and lying that causes harm is not a good thing. Greed, like lying, to gain power over other is not a good thing.

    Many lives have been ruined due to greed and lying.
  • 04-30-2012, 10:01 AM
    058
    Quote Originally Posted by 058 View Post
    Zambonie....You never defined the word 'greed' Since you so liberally throw it around and using it to attack conservatives along with your "rage" comments. Could you please...asking nicely now...Please give us your definition of rightwing greed and how it differenciates from leftwing greed. An extra credit question for you as well...How do you define right wing rage? I'd really like to know. Maybe I'm harboring some boiling caldron of rage and I just don't know I'm about to explode. Perhaps you can help me to recognize the symptions before I lose control and go looking for a clocktower.
    Still waiting....patiently I might add. Help me Zombie...I feel that caldron of rage welling up inside....Clocktowers are starting to look good to me...
  • 04-29-2012, 10:34 PM
    058
    Greed is good....It is what makes us get up in the morning to go to work. It is the driving force behind a more comfortable and secure life. It is the inspiration to improve. It is what drives us....If you have no greed then a space under the freeway overpass to lay your blanket will suffice. A bowl of soup at the Our lady of Angels Mission once a day will be all you will need. Sleeping in doorways will be your future. So Zombie lets talk some more about greed.....lets hear you demonize greed. And if you do then you further expand your scope of hypocracy or make an excuse for you working before you retired, with a comfortable pension I might add. I await your response with eager anticipation but I will not hold my breath waiting for your well thought out, concise and intelligent response.
  • 04-29-2012, 05:34 PM
    gn7
    Quote Originally Posted by 058 View Post
    I want to hear it from Zombie...since he uses the term so frequently. Seems that is his only 'out' is to play the anger, rage and greed card as often as he does. Afterall, if you use the term be prepared to defend it and explain the differences between rightwing and leftwing rage and greed. And finally I want to know why greed is so bad. I subscribe to the Gordon Gekko definition of greed.....Whats yours Zombie?
    Gekko's definiton discribed it "for lack of a better word, good"

    There is a better word. IT ROCKS!

    Imagine the production of the U.S. without any greed.
    the single biggest reason we are slowly getting our asses kicked by China is that they have BILLIONS of greedy bastards, and we a have few million.
    What we need is more greedy bastards.



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  • 04-29-2012, 05:24 PM
    zombie
    Quote Originally Posted by bp298 View Post
    nice effort zombie. but you defend ozero in everything he does. you are either like what he's done and doing, or you do not. you are not even remotely ambivalent. since every post you generate attacks republican ideals from A to Z, you are not what you say you are.

    your plan is an idea. however, a person would have to be living in neverneverland to think it would even be remotely considered. i also realize you've mentioned paul and huntsman because they too are isolationists (a nice 1800s era ideal), but even they could never go to the extremes you suggest. it just won't happen.

    and while i can agree that military spending is a large contributor, it is by no means the sole contributor. you have a government org called department of energy that has been doling out hundreds of billions in debt with nothing to show for it. throwing billions in taxpayer money down the sewer has been rampant in this administration, especially with the do nothing reid led senate that refuses to hold anyone accountable.

    consequently, your plan isn't really a plan but a pipedream. and in the mean time, massive borrowing continues to fly around the country campaining at taxpayer expense (which of course is fraud), more multi million dollar parties at taxpayer expense, doe billions handed out to run over indian burial grounds for nothing of value to the taxpayer. the list of all this is massive. romney's' record of fiscal conservatism is well known. if you continue to attack him with every nonsensical lib-leftwing bs link on the internet, you are obviously against anything fiscally conservative. please enlighten us all, how independents have no concerns about the fiscal sinkhole this administration has buried us with....

    on the other hand, if you are suggesting that romney is right and the bailouts should have never happened, you're heading in the right direction.


    See??? I told you righties wouldn't agree with me. The righties will not give up their pet spending priorities and neither will the lefites give up their pet spending priorities . So here we are stuck in stupid mode as we point fingers at each other while the ship is filling up with water (debt). Hey, you asked my solution!
  • 04-29-2012, 05:17 PM
    058
    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Greed is a relative term. zombie is greedy because he knows the country is drowning in debt, but will scream the loudest if they cut his pension.
    The line worker at GM is greedy because he rapes and holds a corporation hostage for 5 times what a high school kid gets for the same or harder job.

    Steven Jobs was greedy as is Bill Gates because they do everything they can to gain market share to stay in business. If they do the job to well, it greed. If they do it too badly, they fold like Apple damn near did. Greed means they much be making too much on a phone, and too little on R&D. But that would require a conspricacy of ALL the phone and electronics manufactures. Same with EVERYTHING else.


    zombies idea of eliminating greed is EXACTLY the same as Marx and Lenin's. He is just to ASHAMED to admit that removing all rewards, and all desire, and all incentives is the only way to end his definition of greed.

    Anybody that makes more than a TSA agent and keeps the money, and doesn't willingly give the "excess" to the federal government for redistribution(mainly to federal employees) is greedy.
    I want to hear it from Zombie...since he uses the term so frequently. Seems that is his only 'out' is to play the anger, rage and greed card as often as he does. Afterall, if you use the term be prepared to defend it and explain the differences between rightwing and leftwing rage and greed. And finally I want to know why greed is so bad. I subscribe to the Gordon Gekko definition of greed.....Whats yours Zombie?
  • 04-29-2012, 05:04 PM
    gn7
    Greed is a relative term. zombie is greedy because he knows the country is drowning in debt, but will scream the loudest if they cut his pension.
    The line worker at GM is greedy because he rapes and holds a corporation hostage for 5 times what a high school kid gets for the same or harder job.

    Steven Jobs was greedy as is Bill Gates because they do everything they can to gain market share to stay in business. If they do the job to well, it greed. If they do it too badly, they fold like Apple damn near did. Greed means they much be making too much on a phone, and too little on R&D. But that would require a conspricacy of ALL the phone and electronics manufactures. Same with EVERYTHING else.


    zombies idea of eliminating greed is EXACTLY the same as Marx and Lenin's. He is just to ASHAMED to admit that removing all rewards, and all desire, and all incentives is the only way to end his definition of greed.

    Anybody that makes more than a TSA agent and keeps the money, and doesn't willingly give the "excess" to the federal government for redistribution(mainly to federal employees) is greedy.



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  • 04-29-2012, 04:47 PM
    058
    Zambonie....You never defined the word 'greed' Since you so liberally throw it around and using it to attack conservatives along with your "rage" comments. Could you please...asking nicely now...Please give us your definition of rightwing greed and how it differenciates from leftwing greed. An extra credit question for you as well...How do you define right wing rage? I'd really like to know. Maybe I'm harboring some boiling caldron of rage and I just don't know I'm about to explode. Perhaps you can help me to recognize the symptions before I lose control and go looking for a clocktower.
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