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  • 12-23-2012, 06:29 PM
    SNiC
    Quote Originally Posted by SR View Post
    They just can't be reached!
    In all fairness, shue made a "drive by" post offending the NRA VP Wayne LaPierre.
    As the magazine cover implies to a degree, guns are the blame and posting "wacko" implies the poster agrees.

    I asked shue "So if I understand your logic from your "drive by" post, evidently you blame the guns....correct?
    I consider his response "did I post that" & "nevermind" as an aggravated response and a lame attempt to cause meaningless controversy or simply a coward's denial. If shue does not "blame guns" why did he not take the opportunity and expand on his opinion and why.

    I guess some people find publishing controversial "drive by" posts & responses more entertaining and consumes less energy than defending their position...if any
  • 12-23-2012, 06:26 PM
    Jake
    Quote Originally Posted by SR View Post
    They just can't be reached!


    They don't want to be reached, they just want to suck the life out of the producers and get bennys they aren't entitled to, in short, lowlifes like shueman!
  • 12-23-2012, 05:33 PM
    SR
    Quote Originally Posted by SNiC View Post
    "nevermind"...???......FUCK YOU!... is there anything you will not deny? I didn't construe a damn thing!....Either someone with your forum password or you posted the magazine cover and the "wacko" remark...is this NOT your stated opinion? But it is OK, I understand as to deny and blame someone else for your foolish actions and mistakes is simply the Liberal's code of ethics and your way of life...


    They just can't be reached!
  • 12-23-2012, 04:58 PM
    SNiC
    Quote Originally Posted by shueman View Post
    Did I post that... How do you construe......nevermind...


    "nevermind"...???......FUCK YOU!... is there anything you will not deny? I didn't construe a damn thing!....Either someone with your forum password or you posted the magazine cover and the "wacko" remark...is this NOT your stated opinion? But it is OK, I understand as to deny and blame someone else for your foolish actions and mistakes is simply the Liberal's code of ethics and your way of life...


  • 12-23-2012, 04:31 PM
    shueman
    Quote Originally Posted by SNiC View Post
    So if I understand your logic from your "drive by" post, evidently you blame the guns....correct?
    Please tell me, how can you blame the actions of an individual's behavior on an inanimate object?....that is what is "wacko"!
    Did I post that... How do you construe...nevermind...

    Let's put armed guards/militia EVERYWHERE...that 'll fix it...
  • 12-23-2012, 02:03 PM
    SNiC
    Quote Originally Posted by shueman View Post
    Wacko...

    So if I understand your logic from your "drive by" post, evidently you blame the guns....correct?
    Please tell me, how can you blame the actions of an individual's behavior on an inanimate object?....that is what is "wacko"!
  • 12-23-2012, 01:24 PM
    shueman
    Wacko...

  • 12-22-2012, 09:56 AM
    jetboatperformance
    The Second amendment is less about individual gun ownership and more about keep government in check IMO , take away guns from the citizens and see where this country heads.... regarding Crazies Killing people just look at history a nut with a gallon of gas or a Machete` or (fill in the blank) can wreak enormous carnage and belive this , post gun control there is no way LE and the govenrment can ever keep all safe from the forces of evil ...
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  • 12-22-2012, 08:28 AM
    SNiC
    Quote Originally Posted by Fullup View Post
    If the parents in a community want to arm the teachers and hire a kindergarten cop that's their decision. If armed mom's and dads want to surround a school everyday, I say go for it. A little more parental involvement goes a long way. Given the choice, I doubt the folks at Newtown would have wanted a 27 YO teacher packing a .45 around their kids. In parts of Mississippi maybe they would. I see this as a choice the community makes.

    My daughter went through school just others here did. I never gave a second thought about someone shooting up an elementary school. It just doesn't happen. In high school gang violence was always a concern. When she was in college I was very concerned. USC is surrounded by the ghetto of South Central LA. Ton's of cops and security on campus. Shootings and rapes still happen despite their presence. Putting one cop in every elementary school might make people feel good, but I question it's effectiveness in solving the problem. This was the proposal by the NRA.

    Today she's a MD in a Saint Louis ER. Lots of bullets, knives, and drugged up idiots doing stupid things everyday and night. is you can't protect everyone from everything. She and I are both NRA members.

    To your point about banks. Bank robbers want money. Completely different mindset than the attack in Newtown. One room, one guard, is a deterrent that can work for banks although many banks today install bullet resistant glass and tell the tellers to give them the money.

    I don't think the NRA came to the table with a proposal that addresses the problems of Columbine or Newtown. I wish they had. Including information as part of the schools existing safety program for parents and children on how to spot and report these people before they become a problem could be part of an overall plan. Again, one cop can't do it all. It will take a multi facetted plan to reduce the problem and that is where the NRA could show leadership.

    The pukes we have in Washington certainly won't provide any meaningful leadership or solutions.
    I see you point of view and this response is more respectable than "this is a crock of shit"

    I agree, we can not protect everyone when idiots are going to do stupid things everyday. Although, an armed guard in a school may not STOP a mass murder, but it could very well be utilized as an effective deterrent. But to leave the children and staff totally defenseless in a heavily advertised GUN FREE ZONE is poor judgement to say the very least and has overtones of inviting these "idiots" into a safe haven to act out their fantasies and misguided frustrations. .....This is the same as placing armed Security on flights....so far that has worked "fairly" well.
    I definitely agree this should be a "community' decision as should the majority of "controls and lawful disciplines" placed on our states and communities. Perhaps the NRA could have delivered their message in a more definitive response, but I still agree, placing armed guards in schools makes perfectly good sense to me
  • 12-22-2012, 07:06 AM
    Fullup
    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    If guns are banned and their is 100% no black market and absolutely no way to get them (which would never happen). What are you going to do about the mentally ill or evil people who want to hurt people that know chemistry?

    This isn't a gun issue. It could have been a sword, if he knew how to use it well he could have killed must as many even if challenged.
    Therein lies the rub. It's about the mentally ill, not guns. The NRA should have picked up and ran with this, not some crazy nonsense about sticking a cop in every school.
  • 12-22-2012, 12:05 AM
    Icy
    Quote Originally Posted by Fullup View Post
    If the parents in a community want to arm the teachers and hire a kindergarten cop that's their decision. If armed mom's and dads want to surround a school everyday, I say go for it. A little more parental involvement goes a long way. Given the choice, I doubt the folks at Newtown would have wanted a 27 YO teacher packing a .45 around their kids. In parts of Mississippi maybe they would. I see this as a choice the community makes.

    My daughter went through school just others here did. I never gave a second thought about someone shooting up an elementary school. It just doesn't happen. In high school gang violence was always a concern. When she was in college I was very concerned. USC is surrounded by the ghetto of South Central LA. Ton's of cops and security on campus. Shootings and rapes still happen despite their presence. Putting one cop in every elementary school might make people feel good, but I question it's effectiveness in solving the problem. This was the proposal by the NRA.

    Today she's a MD in a Saint Louis ER. Lots of bullets, knives, and drugged up idiots doing stupid things everyday and night. is you can't protect everyone from everything. She and I are both NRA members.

    To your point about banks. Bank robbers want money. Completely different mindset than the attack in Newtown. One room, one guard, is a deterrent that can work for banks although many banks today install bullet resistant glass and tell the tellers to give them the money.

    I don't think the NRA came to the table with a proposal that addresses the problems of Columbine or Newtown. I wish they had. Including information as part of the schools existing safety program for parents and children on how to spot and report these people before they become a problem could be part of an overall plan. Again, one cop can't do it all. It will take a multi facetted plan to reduce the problem and that is where the NRA could show leadership.

    The pukes we have in Washington certainly won't provide any meaningful leadership or solutions.
    If guns are banned and their is 100% no black market and absolutely no way to get them (which would never happen). What are you going to do about the mentally ill or evil people who want to hurt people that know chemistry?

    This isn't a gun issue. It could have been a sword, if he knew how to use it well he could have killed just as many even if challenged.
  • 12-21-2012, 10:15 PM
    Fullup
    Quote Originally Posted by SNiC View Post
    With all due respect, No BS at all, I find this approach very logical and practical. (For the record, NOT a "crock of shit" as the majority of banks operating in Alabama post armed guards during banking hours, and it is the parents responsibility to protect the children at home, not the governments). In 1997 an Assistant Principal at a grade school in Pearl River, Miss. retrieved his 45 from his pick up truck and saved countless children's lives ....Do you consider this too a "Crock of Shit"?

    With that said....What would be your answer? How do you purpose to protect the children from these heartless and armed lunatics?
    And I am curious, do you have any children?

    No doubt, we agree on your closing statement
    If the parents in a community want to arm the teachers and hire a kindergarten cop that's their decision. If armed mom's and dads want to surround a school everyday, I say go for it. A little more parental involvement goes a long way. Given the choice, I doubt the folks at Newtown would have wanted a 27 YO teacher packing a .45 around their kids. In parts of Mississippi maybe they would. I see this as a choice the community makes.

    My daughter went through school just others here did. I never gave a second thought about someone shooting up an elementary school. It just doesn't happen. In high school gang violence was always a concern. When she was in college I was very concerned. USC is surrounded by the ghetto of South Central LA. Ton's of cops and security on campus. Shootings and rapes still happen despite their presence. Putting one cop in every elementary school might make people feel good, but I question it's effectiveness in solving the problem. This was the proposal by the NRA.

    Today she's a MD in a Saint Louis ER. Lots of bullets, knives, and drugged up idiots doing stupid things everyday and night. is you can't protect everyone from everything. She and I are both NRA members.

    To your point about banks. Bank robbers want money. Completely different mindset than the attack in Newtown. One room, one guard, is a deterrent that can work for banks although many banks today install bullet resistant glass and tell the tellers to give them the money.

    I don't think the NRA came to the table with a proposal that addresses the problems of Columbine or Newtown. I wish they had. Including information as part of the schools existing safety program for parents and children on how to spot and report these people before they become a problem could be part of an overall plan. Again, one cop can't do it all. It will take a multi facetted plan to reduce the problem and that is where the NRA could show leadership.

    The pukes we have in Washington certainly won't provide any meaningful leadership or solutions.
  • 12-21-2012, 07:14 PM
    SNiC
    Quote Originally Posted by snoc653 View Post
    I think I can help clarify his point since he didn't break it down to the idiot proof level.
    Thanks for the assist.... you nailed it
  • 12-21-2012, 05:46 PM
    rotorrider
    Excellent presentation.....Of course, Obama has already endorsed the NRA position by having armed security at his childrens school, paid for by the taxpayer. I think our kids are just as important as his......
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