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  • 01-03-2013, 07:08 PM
    gn7
    Quote Originally Posted by steelcomp View Post
    I'm with ya Bob. Our forefathers saw it first hand. They LIVED it. They KNEW. Truthfully, without the 2nd, the rest of the Constitution is defenseless.
    No one needs more than a box of ammo and a handgun to defend themself...against what? A rabid dog? How about a rabid government?
    Not everyone has a handgun and a box of ammo, but I guarantee one thing...if feeces ever does hit the fan, I can make sure those who are in my in my immediate surroundings who don't, do...
    Thats kind of what I was getting at. The guy with a 9mm or 38 in his nightstand and a shotgun in the closet with a box of shells for each has them for self defense.
    The guy with 10,000 rounds for a AR or something else, has something else he is prepared for.
    There is a reason the government, and bitches like Diane Feinstein want ARs off the market and if possible banned and confiscated. Not because of shootings like SH, but because they KNOW why the 2nd amendment is there, and they KNOW they need to override it to continue with their agenda. No matter how many sheep they get on the goverment teet, or how many they hire for over the top wages and bennies, no matter how many brains they can wash, or how many just flat out bribe, there will always be those that will not give in to there 100% government control ideal that morons like those on the boards endorse with there votes.



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  • 01-03-2013, 06:43 PM
    Icy
    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    I'm pretty sure it's not the proper protocol. I've just seen it appear more and more with our two wars and the use of the internet being an open platform. As a civilian, I support it but the protocol seems to be that you have to retire to be able to use your rank. I think it's BS and that everyone should be able to use it as long as dates are used. I'm sure all the guys who got shot at and watched their buddies die or get severely wounded feel the same way.
    Use of Rank by Retired Military & Veterans

    This site seems to answer every question.

    Basically it's not sanctioned but I like to see it...

    An the current discussion:

    Bye bye 2, bye bye 6, bye bye 1, bye bye 4 ect...
  • 01-03-2013, 06:41 PM
    scott foxwell
    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Although I agree with everything you posted snoc, NOW, there is a little more I want, and I doubt they could ever deliever. I want 100% assurance we will never need for the reason the founding fathers put it in the constitution to begin with. I DEMAND 100% assurance we will never be faced with a Lenin, Stalin or Hitler, now, or for the next 1000 years.

    I am not sold at all that we can keep any part of the constitution without the 2nd amendment.
    I use to think/hope we would never need the 2nd amendment for the reasons the founding fathers included it. But today I am all but done voting and just patiently waiting for it to come to a boil.
    Nobody needs more than a box of ammo for self defense. Nobody really needs more than one hand gun and maybe one rifle for self defense. BUT......
    I'm with ya Bob. Our forefathers saw it first hand. They LIVED it. They KNEW. Truthfully, without the 2nd, the rest of the Constitution is defenseless.
    No one needs more than a box of ammo and a handgun to defend themself...against what? A rabid dog? How about a rabid government?
    Not everyone has a handgun and a box of ammo, but I guarantee one thing...if feeces ever does hit the fan, I can make sure those who are in my in my immediate surroundings who don't, do...
  • 01-03-2013, 06:19 PM
    gn7
    Quote Originally Posted by snoc653 View Post
    Interesting. While I agree with his points, do most prior service Marines use their prior military rank as if they still hold it? I'm just curious about that. My letters to both my Congressional and Senatorial representatives state my position, which is; that when they can guarantee me that criminals won't be able to procure weapons from any source, then they can talk to me about gun control and limiting what my rights are to defend myself and my family. In the mean time, I think they would find it more productive to secure our borders from illegals of every kind from weapons and drugs, all the way to people. There are far too many weapons for them to ever seize them all and all more weapons laws will do is make more law abiding people criminals when they refuse to comply. What happens when the whack jobs start running over kids on the playgrounds with trucks will we outlaw trucks? It's never the instrument of death that is to blame for it's use. It is the person controlling it (or failing to control it), who creates the tragedy.
    Although I agree with everything you posted snoc, NOW, there is a little more I want, and I doubt they could ever deliever. I want 100% assurance we will never need for the reason the founding fathers put it in the constitution to begin with. I DEMAND 100% assurance we will never be faced with a Lenin, Stalin or Hitler, now, or for the next 1000 years.

    I am not sold at all that we can keep any part of the constitution without the 2nd amendment.
    I use to think/hope we would never need the 2nd amendment for the reasons the founding fathers included it. But today I am all but done voting and just patiently waiting for it to come to a boil.
    Nobody needs more than a box of ammo for self defense. Nobody really needs more than one hand gun and maybe one rifle for self defense. BUT......



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  • 01-03-2013, 06:05 PM
    Icy
    Quote Originally Posted by snoc653 View Post
    Thanks, I missed the dates on the second line. I don't recall the military ever briefing us on this protocol. I knew that I can use my retired title if I choose to. Learn something new every day.
    I'm pretty sure it's not the proper protocol. I've just seen it appear more and more with our two wars and the use of the internet being an open platform. As a civilian, I support it but the protocol seems to be that you have to retire to be able to use your rank. I think it's BS and that everyone should be able to use it as long as dates are used. I'm sure all the guys who got shot at and watched their buddies die or get severely wounded feel the same way.
  • 01-03-2013, 05:08 PM
    snoc653
    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    By putting the date, they are telling you the duration of their service. The rank should reflect the highest rank they achieved, unless they were punished and lost rank. I see this more and more, which is good.

    If they officially retired, they put Ret. in-front and don't necessarily need the dates.

    Edit Add: I've also seen people list each tour they participated in and the dates to go along with that if necessary.

    I've also seen people list medals like Purple Heart, Bronze Star, Air Force Cross, Navy Cross, Distinguished Service Cross and of course Medal of Honor. I'm not sure what the minimum on this is.
    Thanks, I missed the dates on the second line. I don't recall the military ever briefing us on this protocol. I knew that I can use my retired title if I choose to. Learn something new every day.
  • 01-03-2013, 04:50 PM
    Icy
    Quote Originally Posted by snoc653 View Post
    Interesting. While I agree with his points, do most prior service Marines use their prior military rank as if they still hold it? I'm just curious about that. My letters to both my Congressional and Senatorial representatives state my position, which is; that when they can guarantee me that criminals won't be able to procure weapons from any source, then they can talk to me about gun control and limiting what my rights are to defend myself and my family. In the mean time, I think they would find it more productive to secure our borders from illegals of every kind from weapons and drugs, all the way to people. There are far too many weapons for them to ever seize them all and all more weapons laws will do is make more law abiding people criminals when they refuse to comply. What happens when the whack jobs start running over kids on the playgrounds with trucks will we outlaw trucks? It's never the instrument of death that is to blame for it's use. It is the person controlling it (or failing to control it), who creates the tragedy.
    By putting the date, they are telling you the duration of their service. The rank should reflect the highest rank they achieved, unless they were punished and lost rank. I see this more and more, which is good.

    If they officially retired, they put Ret. in-front and don't necessarily need the dates.

    Edit Add: I've also seen people list each tour they participated in and the dates to go along with that if necessary.

    I've also seen people list medals like Purple Heart, Bronze Star, Air Force Cross, Navy Cross, Distinguished Service Cross and of course Medal of Honor. I'm not sure what the minimum on this is.
  • 01-03-2013, 04:40 PM
    snoc653
    Quote Originally Posted by ICECREAMAN View Post
    Check out 1 Marines view on banning his AR. I think he puts it about as well as you can. Well done Marine!

    NESARA- Restore America - Galactic News: US Marine Pens Viral Letter to Anti-Gun Senator Dianne Feinstein: “No Ma’am”
    Interesting. While I agree with his points, do most prior service Marines use their prior military rank as if they still hold it? I'm just curious about that. My letters to both my Congressional and Senatorial representatives state my position, which is; that when they can guarantee me that criminals won't be able to procure weapons from any source, then they can talk to me about gun control and limiting what my rights are to defend myself and my family. In the mean time, I think they would find it more productive to secure our borders from illegals of every kind from weapons and drugs, all the way to people. There are far too many weapons for them to ever seize them all and all more weapons laws will do is make more law abiding people criminals when they refuse to comply. What happens when the whack jobs start running over kids on the playgrounds with trucks will we outlaw trucks? It's never the instrument of death that is to blame for it's use. It is the person controlling it (or failing to control it), who creates the tragedy.
  • 01-03-2013, 11:00 AM
    ICECREAMAN
    Check out 1 Marines view on banning his AR. I think he puts it about as well as you can. Well done Marine!

    NESARA- Restore America - Galactic News: US Marine Pens Viral Letter to Anti-Gun Senator Dianne Feinstein: “No Ma’am”
  • 01-02-2013, 02:06 PM
    65 Sanger 440
    Where i live ccw permits are easy to obtain, and the sheriff deputies are allowed to do their job with the backing of the sheriff that is not afraid to back his deputies and does so routinely. crime is very low here because of the ccw's...the scum bags know if they pick the wrong person it is all over for them. I am a firm believer that had someone in that school been armed that little scum bag would not have gotten as far as he did before someone took him out.
  • 01-02-2013, 12:17 PM
    SR
    Get a load of this fuckin idiot :Liberal ex-columnist's death threats published in Des Moines Register | Fox News

    I wonder what he is waiting on....He should begin his "prying" as soon as he's ready...
  • 01-02-2013, 09:46 AM
    ICECREAMAN
    Quote Originally Posted by 65 Sanger 440 View Post
    It's amazing that no matter how many times you tell people that criminals and wack jobs do not legally buy firearms and ammo, that they still want more laws on the books that are already in place just not enforced.
    For the sheeple, it's because they think with emotion, not with common sense, their very bad at critical thinking. As long as something is done, they can feel better about themselves and humanity, even if what they accomplish is actually counter productive to their cause. Some of the dumber politicians actually fall into this category.
    For most politicians (Liberal), it's nothing more than a power grab. They now the facts and all the statistics about guns and gun violence, but they also now it's much easier to control an unarmed population, by force if need be.
  • 01-01-2013, 08:55 PM
    SoldHondaBoughtHondo
    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    Alright, I have one question....How do you keep the weapons out of the hands of criminals and the insane.....You don't want to pay taxes for prisons, you want all the dope smokers filling the jails, and you were overjoyed when Gov Reagan eliminated the mental health system that controlled the nut-bags......So do we just walk around with gun in hand, and shoot first when we see a guy who looks whacked out?

    It seems to me that it's nuts to have all these rules controlling auto ownership and driving, yet you want a free-for-all with weapons....And if I remember the way the amendment was written, it said "Well-REGULATED militia".......so don't wave the constitution in my face cause it contradictes what you want.
    I think everybody should own a gun. Make it a law, don't own a gun, go to jail. Sounds scary, right? Everybody has a gun and everybody else knows it. Rampant crime in the streets, shoot outs on friday nights, murder rate has the coroner's working 3 shifts. People living in fear for their life each and every day of their life.
    Probably the stupidest thing you ever heard of, right?

    Well, it already happened...16 years ago.



    The New American magazine reminds us that March 25th marked the 16th anniversary of Kennesaw, Georgia's ordinance requiring heads of households (with certain exceptions) to keep at least one firearm in their homes.
    The city's population grew from around 5,000 in 1980 to 13,000 by 1996 (latest available estimate). Yet there have been only three murders: two with knives (1984 and 1987) and one with a firearm (1997). After the law went into effect in 1982, crime against persons plummeted 74 percent compared to 1981, and fell another 45 percent in 1983 compared to 1982.

    And it has stayed impressively low. In addition to nearly non-existent homicide (murders have averaged a mere 0.19 per year), the annual number of armed robberies, residential burglaries, commercial burglaries, and rapes have averaged, respectively, 1.69, 31.63, 19.75, and 2.00 through 1998.

    With all the attention that has been heaped upon the lawful possession of firearms lately, you would think that a city that requires gun ownership would be the center of a media feeding frenzy. It isn't. The fact is I can't remember a major media outlet even mentioning Kennesaw. Can you?
    The reason is obvious. Kennesaw proves that the presence of firearms actually improves safety and security. This is not the message that the media want us to hear. They want us to believe that guns are evil and are the cause of violence.
    The facts tell a different story. What is even more interesting about Kennesaw is that the city's crime rate decreased with the simple knowledge that the entire community was armed. The bad guys didn't force the residents to prove it. Just knowing that residents were armed prompted them to move on to easier targets. Most criminals don't have a death wish.
  • 01-01-2013, 06:27 PM
    thatguy
    Quote Originally Posted by 65 Sanger 440 View Post
    It's amazing that no matter how many times you tell people that criminals and wack jobs do not legally buy firearms and ammo, that they still want more laws on the books that are already in place just not enforced.
    Its all politics. They don't care about victims or reality of the situation in the least.
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