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  • 01-31-2013, 06:17 AM
    SBjet
    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    Too many people think the Republican party has to be 100% aligned with all membership thinking in concert to have strength

    It's easy to be a democrat. Just watch a herd of sheep for a few minutes .
    The Democrats have an easier time keeping people in line: "Shut up if you want to keep getting your check."

    Quote Originally Posted by Fullup View Post
    What they have is a plan to beat the Chimp to the "Punch" to control the narrative.
    Since this is all political posturing, (no border control, no deal) it will be interesting how this farce plays out. .
    Yes. In reality, probably nothing will get done. I have a couple concerns. One is that the DREAM act hurt Rs in the election.
    The other is bigger. The Dems will want to make 20 million illegals into citizens this year. Then next year, they'll want another 20 million.
  • 01-30-2013, 10:58 PM
    gn7
    This is about the 5th time you have asked someone to not post. Not a big fan of shue's, but much less a fan of YOU! exactly who the fuck are you to tell anybody when and where to post anything. You think you freek'n Obama? Or just the internet czar?

    You need to come to grips JD, you aren't shit!



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  • 01-30-2013, 05:01 PM
    Jet-Daytona
    Quote Originally Posted by shueman View Post
    Damm that's a hard read...

    I understand it is difficult to understand with your condition.so PLEASE refrain from posting in here as you look more
  • 01-30-2013, 04:50 PM
    shueman
    Quote Originally Posted by Jet-Daytona View Post
    Should have happened 20 years ago and I do not agree with your clear up plan,and never will.I am of the belief of if you broke the LAW,there is a problem no matter of how long or? I feel it is like murder,it is expensive to try him and and a PITA =WTP?
    Damm that's a hard read...
  • 01-30-2013, 04:33 PM
    Jet-Daytona
    Quote Originally Posted by AzMandella View Post
    Probably more than you asI live right near the border. What don't you understand about the fact that we have to clear this mess up ?

    Should have happened 20 years ago and I do not agree with your clear up plan,and never will.I am of the belief of if you broke the LAW,there is a problem no matter of how long or? I feel it is like murder,it is expensive to try him and and a PITA =WTP?
  • 01-30-2013, 12:04 PM
    AzMandella
    Quote Originally Posted by Jet-Daytona View Post
    The Old Saying= Everyone has an opinion,AND BTW I do have a clue. Rubio is getting into bed with the Hispanic voters.What do you not understand about Illegals?
    Probably more than you asI live right near the border. What don't you understand about the fact that we have to clear this mess up ?
  • 01-30-2013, 09:28 AM
    ICECREAMAN
    Quote Originally Posted by Jet-Daytona View Post
    The Old Saying= Everyone has an opinion,AND BTW I am clueless. Rubio is getting into bed with the Hispanic voters.What do I understand about Illegals?
    You do know there's an estimated 20 million of them here right? And who better to front this issue? He's born from immigrants, he married into an immigrant family, he grew up in an immigrant neighborhood and still lives in one. He's very bright, very articulate, Oh, and by the way, he's a proclaimed Reagan, Tea Party Conservative!
    The plan that he's promoting would require border security first. Then there would be a process to obtain a Green Card, not straight to citizenship. Then all these people would have to go through the very same steps as anybody else who is seeking U.S. citizenship. This process could easily go on 15 years, all the while they would be ineligible to receive federal aid. Is all this doable? Probable not, but at least the Republicans are setting some of the narrative in the debate instead of allowing Obama to continue to bludgeon them mercilessly with social issues. Rubio has made it clear, if government can't guarantee certain triggers like boarder security, back ground checks, etc, before issuing Green Cards, he's out of the discussion.
  • 01-30-2013, 08:54 AM
    MSDC
  • 01-30-2013, 08:16 AM
    Fullup
    What they have is a plan to beat the Chimp to the "Punch" to control the narrative. I though it was the first good move the Senate has done in a while, but don't hold your breath. Why Schumer is onboard I haven't figured out yet. I have to believe he cleared it with Reid and the White House. This leaves my suspicions very high. Since this is all political posturing, (no border control, no deal) it will be interesting how this farce plays out. There is no way the Democrats aren't trying to play the Republicans for fools. This is all political.
  • 01-30-2013, 08:09 AM
    Jet-Daytona
    Quote Originally Posted by AzMandella View Post
    You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Rubio and the 3 other Reps and 4 Dems actually have a good plan in my opinion. All contingent on securing the border first ! Then making them all go through a background check to weed the criminals out. Pay fines and back taxes, then getting in line behind all those who are trying to get in leagally. Which would put these people 8yrs out for citizenship. And durring that time are not eligible for any federal handouts. I support it.

    The Old Saying= Everyone has an opinion,AND BTW I do have a clue. Rubio is getting into bed with the Hispanic voters.What do you not understand about Illegals?
  • 01-30-2013, 07:56 AM
    AzMandella
    Quote Originally Posted by Jet-Daytona View Post
    John Bahner,caved and today Marko Rubio just decided to vote for allowing Illegals to Stay. I can research more if you wish.
    You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Rubio and the 3 other Reps and 4 Dems actually have a good plan in my opinion. All contingent on securing the border first ! Then making them all go through a background check to weed the criminals out. Pay fines and back taxes, then getting in line behind all those who are trying to get in leagally. Which would put these people 8yrs out for citizenship. And durring that time are not eligible for any federal handouts. I support it.
  • 01-29-2013, 10:30 PM
    The Doctor
    Here's the problem, as I see it:
    Republicans are generally conservative - yet they are far more generous in charitable giving than democrats (easily documented)
    One size does NOT fit all. There are a thousand issues to be dealt with and that number is growing as the democrats suck America into the endless black hole of debt, unemployment, anti Christian motives, firearm orders, constitutional hatred, complete ignorance of current immigration laws and on and on and on.

    Too many people think the Republican party has to be 100% aligned with all membership thinking in concert to have strength and that's total BS. Tommy and I differ vastly on religious views but we will never veer away from supporting one another in our love of America and the simple "OBVIOUS" course corrections it will take to get this country back on track. We must shrink government substantially. We must reform welfare programs and encourage productivity and thrift. We must stick closely with the constitutional values that made this country strong in the first place and we must never spend more than we take in. It's really that simple so before you let the abortion or term limit issue distract you, remember that life isn't fair - we must work together to accomplish anything - and it's never the wrong time to do the right thing. You know, all the principals that democrats hate.

    It's easy to be a democrat. Just watch a herd of sheep for a few minutes and follow suit believing your government can solve anything while electing the shepherd with the greenest field and don't concern yourself about the future because that will be somebody else's problem.
  • 01-29-2013, 09:28 PM
    ICECREAMAN
    Quote Originally Posted by Jet-Daytona View Post
    Marko Rubio,voted for allowing ILLEGALS to become LEGAL,I guess running for President,John Bahner is a POS he could just as well change to the other party as he sure has not helped us..

    Please let me mow if those are sufficient for you.
    Well it does help me know what your referring too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jet-Daytona View Post
    John Bahner,caved and today Marko Rubio just decided to vote for allowing Illegals to Stay. I can research more if you wish.
    Maybe start by just researching just a little bit before you hit "Submit Reply" button.

    I don't know what Boehner supposedly caved on that you're referring to, nothing has been voted on. As a matter of fact, there's not even a bill written yet regarding immigration reform from either side. Obama came to Vegas to announce his intentions on perusing an Immigration reform agenda. Rubio and others new this and tried to jump in front of Obama to take away some of his thunder. A pretty good chess move if you ask me. Everybody new Obama was going for immigration. At least some one is going on the offensive. This is the very start of this battle.
  • 01-29-2013, 04:28 PM
    Jet-Daytona
    Quote Originally Posted by brgrcru View Post
    The Republican party is like Dems a few years ago. Now the Democrats are socialist and the Republicans are Democrats. So all those Democrats on Perf. Boat are actually socialist. But they call themselves Democrats, so they are probably Republicans now. Now the true Conservatives do not have a party now. But probably more Libertarian or in need of a new party = This what I am looking for.

    John Bahner,caved and today Marko Rubio just decided to vote for allowing Illegals to Stay. I can research more if you wish.
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