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  • 03-06-2013, 03:25 PM
    SBjet
    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Wait until you see what WE have in store for your rediculous fed pension.


    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    So......You hack down 85% of the redwoods.......
    I thought God put those trees there for us to use as firewood.
  • 03-06-2013, 09:47 AM
    bp298
    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    So......You hack down 85% of the redwoods......Then the tree huggers put the industry out of biz.....Have I got your basic theme there? To me it looks like they were going to run out of redwoods sooner rather than later...PL was drawing down to keep the company going and take care of the employees, then Hurwitz comes in and starts raping and pilaging, and set off the firestorm of treehuggers, etc.

    Lets give 'em some more redwoods so they can go back to big production......Oh, wait, there isn't enough left for a big operation, is there? Let's over fish the Salmon, then poison the river....."Hey! Why can't I get salmon any more?!"

    I don't really understand why you guys want to glorify these rats that take a company, rape it, destroy it, sell it off to a foreign investor and leave the retirees(Co. & Private) flat broke....To me this is exactly greed run amuck...How the hell do you say, "Geez pops! Get over it and go work at Mc-Ds- Ha Ha! I stole your retirement and I'm rich for it!" I'd like to gut the MF like a fish....
    yes, you have proven once again that you are more ignorant than anyone else that's ever posted anything in this entire forum. dumber than a rock, and a complete moron. someday when you grow up, you may actually learn something. but from your repeated ignorance and stupidity, that's highly doubtful.
  • 03-06-2013, 09:34 AM
    The Doctor
    Quote Originally Posted by AzMandella View Post
    Hey CVX I have a novel idea. How about you irresposible idiots take care of managing your own retirement. Why does an employer have to be responsible for managing your retirement ? You handle the investing and when you make a mistake or bad investment you can blame yourself.
    Your novel idea crossed the line. Picture three million Federal Government workers being bailed out because they invested poorly.
    These people work for the government for a reason. The private sector is far too risky and heaven forbid they should start their own business with all that responsibility only to have some fraud regulate the hell out of them and then tell them they didn't build it anyway.
  • 03-06-2013, 08:23 AM
    AzMandella
    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    I hope you don't lose your pension to a hostile takeover.....I'd hate to see you at 75 having to greet people at Wallyworld......I do have a tri-wall that I'll save for you in case you lose your retirement.

    As for ridiculous, that's what you call 35 years, 67% of my high three? How about you and your friends who get bonuses whether you help or destroy a company? Is it survival of the fittest, or survival of the corruptest?
    Hey CVX I have a novel idea. How about you irrisposible idiots take care of managing your own retirement. Why does an employer have to be responsible for managing your retirement ? You handle the investing and when you make a mistake or bad investment you can blame yourself.
  • 03-05-2013, 10:10 PM
    gn7
    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    I hope you don't lose your pension to a hostile takeover.....I'd hate to see you at 75 having to greet people at Wallyworld......I do have a tri-wall that I'll save for you in case you lose your retirement.

    As for ridiculous, that's what you call 35 years, 67% of my high three? How about you and your friends who get bonuses whether you help or destroy a company? Is it survival of the fittest, or survival of the corruptest?
    What are you saying CVX, there is no corruption inside the corpration you work for?



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  • 03-05-2013, 10:05 PM
    cvxjet
    G, you really are stupid; I'll spell it out for you- ALL POLITICIANS ARE CORRUPT.......Libbies, Repcons, all of them! Get it? Stop telling me how perfect the criminals you vote for are!
  • 03-05-2013, 09:57 PM
    gn7
    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    I hope you don't lose your pension to a hostile takeover.....I'd hate to see you at 75 having to greet people at Wallyworld......I do have a tri-wall that I'll save for you in case you lose your retirement.

    As for ridiculous, that's what you call 35 years, 67% of my high three? How about you and your friends who get bonuses whether you help or destroy a company? Is it survival of the fittest, or survival of the corruptest?
    What are you saying CVX, there is no corruption inside the corpration you work for?



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  • 03-05-2013, 09:53 PM
    cvxjet
    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Wait until you see what WE have in store for your rediculous fed pension.
    I hope you don't lose your pension to a hostile takeover.....I'd hate to see you at 75 having to greet people at Wallyworld......I do have a tri-wall that I'll save for you in case you lose your retirement.

    As for ridiculous, that's what you call 35 years, 67% of my high three? How about you and your friends who get bonuses whether you help or destroy a company? Is it survival of the fittest, or survival of the corruptest?
  • 03-05-2013, 09:43 PM
    gn7
    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post

    I don't really understand why you guys want to glorify these rats that take a company, rape it, destroy it, sell it off to a foreign investor and leave the retirees(Co. & Private) flat broke....To me this is exactly greed run amuck...How the hell do you say, "Geez pops! Get over it and go work at Mc-Ds- Ha Ha! I stole your retirement and I'm rich for it!" I'd like to gut the MF like a fish....
    Wait until you see what WE have in store for your rediculous fed pension.



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  • 03-05-2013, 07:53 PM
    cvxjet
    So......You hack down 85% of the redwoods......Then the tree huggers put the industry out of biz.....Have I got your basic theme there? To me it looks like they were going to run out of redwoods sooner rather than later...PL was drawing down to keep the company going and take care of the employees, then Hurwitz comes in and starts raping and pilaging, and set off the firestorm of treehuggers, etc.

    Lets give 'em some more redwoods so they can go back to big production......Oh, wait, there isn't enough left for a big operation, is there? Let's over fish the Salmon, then poison the river....."Hey! Why can't I get salmon any more?!"

    I don't really understand why you guys want to glorify these rats that take a company, rape it, destroy it, sell it off to a foreign investor and leave the retirees(Co. & Private) flat broke....To me this is exactly greed run amuck...How the hell do you say, "Geez pops! Get over it and go work at Mc-Ds- Ha Ha! I stole your retirement and I'm rich for it!" I'd like to gut the MF like a fish....
  • 03-05-2013, 01:05 PM
    bp298
    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    1) The whole CO2-tree thing just went right over your heads...your probably too young to have any knowledge of this; Reagan once stated, "Trees create air polution"....Although there is some convoluted ways to interpet this statement, it comes across as one of those really ridiculous things politicians say......The deeper meaning of what he was saying was "trees create CO2"......That is wrong, unless you want to talk about burning trees.

    2) More nuclear reactors.....Hell F-ing yes! The cleanest energy we have....The only caveat is, make them basically fail safe.....One thing that we should be working on is Thorium reactors...They actually don't work unless you have source of neutrons to hit the fuel with- very easy to shut down, and no weapons capability. We could let Iran have this kind of reactor, and they could not build bombs.

    3)So, let's get this straight; You guys are all for a someone's biz being forcably taken from him, right? I thought you were for the individual's rights........Yours I guess, but noone elses, huh? HURWITZ is the real "TOOL" that created the whole problem up north....If he hadn't tryed a "Get Rich quick" scheme, PL would still be cruising along, and the REAL CA loggers up there wouldn't have anything to complain about.....It took me a long time to dig thru the retoric(On both sides) to find the truth on this....My main sympathy is with the CA loggers, who got screwed out of jobs, and had their retirement fund stolen.

    4) There is a whole slew of stories about Keystone/ Eminent domain.......Take a look and , truly, let me know what you find; I will admit to throwing it out there, but when I went for the source....Well, lots of them, and I don't know what you prefer....Fox even had some articles on it. I don't particularly like ED(Either one), but I do think it is necessary in some situations.....But I want a review(Each case) of why it's needed by someone who is neutral to the case.

    I'd like to see a Conservative rancher get ED'd...Then lets see what his reaction would be..."Progress is all that counts!".....Yeah, I'm sure that's how it would go....
    1. already been clarified for you, but being an idiot, you'll just move along.
    2. you should have stopped at "more nuclear reactors". current designs, that have been approved by the nrc for decades, ARE fail safe. there are two under construction in the us right now. thorium reactor?? are you a nuclear engineer? operated nuclear reactors? this is nothing more than a diversionary distraction.
    3. are you obtuse? ignorant AND stupid? hurwitz was nothing more than a pimple on the ass of the timber industry in norcal. even in the '70s, anybody with half a brain could see the timber industry in norcal, compared to what it had been for the previous 70 years, was fucked. pl was a large employer, but not nearly the largest forrest products employer in that county. they were nowhere near the largest landowner, or timber rights owners. do you know who was? the corporations that still existed in the 70's are ALL GONE now, and anyone that thinks it's because of one little pimple is completely stupid and ignorant of the realitys that affected that industry. ALL of those corporations harvested exactly the same way. none were any different than the others. pl's old mill still operates under a different owner. they are LUCKY to still be there. schmidbauer's still operates, but that was a relatively new company when compared to all the others. ALL of the other major corporations are ALL GONE. HUGE facilities employing thousands, equipment sold for less than pennies on the dollar or scrapped, facilities flattened. you go out and read one or two little tunnel visioned whiney blogs and think you absolutely know how it all came down. that it was all due to one pimple. how ignorant, shallow and obtuse can you possibly be?
  • 03-05-2013, 08:52 AM
    SBjet
    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    .....Have any of you even HEARD of Thorium reactors? d could be a very big part of the energy solution.
    Of course we've heard of thorium reactors. You know how to make nukes "part of the energy solution"? By fucking building some of them. We have regs. and tree huggers raise the cost 10x what it ought to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    Also, I think that all countries in the western world are going bankrupt, and I think it can be directly atributed to our "Hyper-Consumer" economy.....Because of the idiotic tax code, it actually favors Buying stuff, vs saving, so everyone is constantly overspending, and if the stores, etc have one bad Xmas, then the whole house of cards falls. And of course, the tax code in no way favors "Growing the tax base" to lighten the tax burden on everyone by adding more taxable people.

    .
    ha, ha, you mean taxing more of the 50% who don't pay? You hate that idea!

    Let's divide national bankruptcy from personal bankruptcy.

    Personal: People in the US go bankrupt, over 1 million a year. Because our economy is built on buy now, pay later. Our economy actually does better with them buying, everybody betting on a better tomorrow, and some going bankrupt, than it would it if everybody stayed home and saved.

    National: You are correct that the countries are going bankrupt. Why is that? Simple because we are spending too much. Namely too much on social programs. Nothing very complicated about it. Women and children say they want something, then expect someone else to pay for it. But you're a MAN, you can't do that. I expect more. You do realize that there is no one to bailout the US? Did you vote for deficit hawks at every level?
  • 03-05-2013, 08:15 AM
    AzMandella
    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    I have to say when I was coming back from Trinity a few years ago, I saw the towers of the new Carquinez bridge I was absolutely shocked...I didn't think that any pols in this country could ever plan for something that would take more than 3 years to get done. That is a problem with ALL politicians, in both parties.

    Also, I think that all countries in the western world are going bankrupt, and I think it can be directly atributed to our "Hyper-Consumer" economy.....Because of the idiotic tax code, it actually favors Buying stuff, vs saving, so everyone is constantly overspending, and if the stores, etc have one bad Xmas, then the whole house of cards falls. And of course, the tax code in no way favors "Growing the tax base" to lighten the tax burden on everyone by adding more taxable people.

    A better system of taxation would definitely be something more along the lines of Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan.
    You keep talking about fixing the tax code and making the Rich pay more. But you have still not answered my question repetedly. If a little less than half the middle class payes zero Fed income tax are they paying thier fair share ? You do know that many people work as contract workers. You know all the landscapers, appliance repairmen, home remodelers, etc, etc, declare thier own income. They also don't declare thier income. So in the end many, many of them end up paying zero Fed income taxes. Experts predict that the amount we loose in revenue from the middle class shirking thier fair share is way more than taking every penny the rich earn. So don't you think it makes sense to get everyone paying thier fair share before gouging the rich ?
  • 03-04-2013, 10:38 PM
    gn7
    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    I have to say when I was coming back from Trinity a few years ago, I saw the towers of the new Carquinez bridge I was absolutely shocked...I didn't think that any pols in this country could ever plan for something that would take more than 3 years to get done. That is a problem with ALL politicians, in both parties.

    Also, I think that all countries in the western world are going bankrupt, and I think it can be directly atributed to our "Hyper-Consumer" economy.....Because of the idiotic tax code, it actually favors Buying stuff, vs saving, so everyone is constantly overspending, and if the stores, etc have one bad Xmas, then the whole house of cards falls. And of course, the tax code in no way favors "Growing the tax base" to lighten the tax burden on everyone by adding more taxable people.

    A better system of taxation would definitely be something more along the lines of Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan.
    Ah come on CVX. Lets try to remember it was your 'PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL MARXIST GODFATHER" Woodrow Wilson that sold the sheep the idea of a direct tax, which REQUIRED a constitutional amendment to be constitutionally legal,(16th amendment) AND to make it a progressive tax, straight out of Karl Marx's communist manifesto. Plus he convinced the congress that we needed a Federal Reserve so not only could the government borrow to its heart content, but so could the public, to the point both can go bankrupt. What a plan to destroy the country. Even though 3 previous central banks had been tried before and almost destroyed the country in mounting debt. Andrew Jackson was the ONLY POTUS to pay off the central bank and shut it down. That resulted in an assassination attmpt that failed. Lincoln printed money and distributed money that was not only unconstitutional, but the EXCLUSIVE right of the central bank, not the government. He was assassinated. Kennedy printed Treasury bills against the wishs of the Fed and he was eliminated as well. And asshat Obama is doing everything he can to get the job done before he has to leave office. Because by some slim chance he can pull it off before hand, he could possibly make himself King by way of a E.O., back up by the Supreme Court and maybe even a super majority if the mid terms go his way, and the sheeple get out there and vote as many times as possible. Nothing beats a good ole fashion corrupt election. So WHO REALLY is on the side of the money mongers CVX? Who set up the system we have today with a communist inspired PROGRESSIVE TAX, and a country bleeding/bankrupting central bank.
    So tell me CVX, how do you feel about the penalty for married couples as opposed to "living together" to gain a tax advantage. I guess to you, the moral fabric of the country doesn't mean spit. To most marxist commies it doesn't.



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