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  • 09-18-2013, 09:02 AM
    78hallett
    Love my MSD ready to run dizzy, works perfect and easy set up. You can add a box to it if that's something you want to do also.
  • 09-17-2013, 09:19 PM
    jetboatperformance
    Quote Originally Posted by southwind74 View Post
    any recommendations specifically.
    if i do upgrade, i like the msd in my car. but i'd like not to have to run a 6a or 6al box and worry about hiding it somewhere.

    do the msd units have multiple spark built in the dist. and do they have a compact one with a coil in it, but not as ugly as a gm hei?
    Would have to say check the known products and make a decision based on what you wallet can justify would personal likely go with the MSD Pro Billet (or Summits house brand), coil, 8mm wire set, appropriate MSD box , this stuff is quality and has good cust support , user friendly and we have always had good luck with it . re "coil in it" your going to have that "Big Cap HEI" look if that what your desire is really nothing wrong with HEI check out DUI if that's where your budget leads
  • 09-17-2013, 08:38 PM
    southwind74
    p.s.
    why don't jet boats ever run a vac adv.?
  • 09-17-2013, 08:34 PM
    southwind74
    Quote Originally Posted by jetboatperformance View Post
    Do your self a favor and simultaneously relive stress and frustration and ditch the Prestolite distributor with the petronix and related components and step up to an MSD system be it a ready to run (small base) or a MSD pro billet deal distributor with a box , you'll not likely look back , there are other good systems out there as well included but not limited to those in the link below Best of luck

    http://www.summitracing.com/search/p...%20distributor
    any recommendations specifically.
    if i do upgrade, i like the msd in my car. but i'd like not to have to run a 6a or 6al box and worry about hiding it somewhere.

    do the msd units have multiple spark built in the dist. and do they have a compact one with a coil in it, but not as ugly as a gm hei?
  • 09-17-2013, 08:27 PM
    jetboatperformance
    Do your self a favor and simultaneously relive stress and frustration and ditch the Prestolite distributor with the petronix and related components and step up to an MSD system be it a ready to run (small base) or a MSD pro billet deal distributor with a box , you'll not likely look back , there are other good systems out there as well included but not limited to those in the link below Best of luck

    http://www.summitracing.com/search/p...%20distributor
  • 09-17-2013, 07:47 PM
    southwind74
    So i cleaned up the old cap and rotor a bit and it ran good for a while, but the missing started back up again. I tried yet again a different cap and rotor set (my third and a different brand) and the rotor struck one of the wire terminals and ran crumby.
    I took it to a guy he said everything looked good on the scope but hard to tell because there's no load on the motor.
    He said the cap and rotor looked ok too, maybe the cap wasn't on straight.
    He thought maybe bad gas or water in gas
    So today i put some chevron gas in it and some stabilizer and it still ran crappy. then i added some heet still crappy.
    My guy tells me maybe the coil is going out. said to look at the spark while running, by pulling the primary wire. I only got shocked once, but it sparked well, but not blue like he said it should.
    it was kind of an orange color.
    it idles great and sounds good on the trailer but any load and it misses badly.
    again,
    460 bbf stock
    pertronics conversion.
    berk pump stock
    southwind 18 ft v-bottom

    welcoming all ideas...
  • 08-11-2013, 04:35 PM
    HammerDown
    Quote Originally Posted by johnf View Post
    BEER is the MSD 8350 ready to run any good for a boat??
    Few seasons on my MSD-8360 RTR (BBC)...been working real nice
  • 08-11-2013, 10:45 AM
    Beer:30
    Quote Originally Posted by johnf View Post
    BEER is the MSD 8350 ready to run any good for a boat??
    Hey, I am by NO MEANS an ignition guru. I don't have alot of experience with MSD stuff. I have a '70 Cuda 440-6 with full MSD setup. I haven't ever run the motor with anything different, so I don't know how well it works in comparison to the next brand. The car runs just fine, though.

    I have been using Pertronix for years, converting points distributors in my classics/musclecars. So, when I saw the combo, I got the first SBC setup for convenience - and fell in love. Beautiful distributor, typically with larger shaft than stock. Chevy stock shaft size is, what - .470" or around there? These are an even .50" The only reason I even noticed this is because I was putting together the full-roller 427 for my Impala and had to change the gear. Noticed Pertronix had gears in both sizes, so I had to make sure and order the right one.

    It's not common for people to snap stock distributors in half, but for those who follow the "bigger is better", well - there you go.

    These Pert setups are just no-nonsense. Hook 12v to them and let them run. They have spring/weight kits to dial in whatever you want.

    The other thing I appreciate about Pertronix is; they make components for some of the ODDEST applications. Old farm pump motors, welding motors, generator motors, tractors. They have a whole agricultural engine section in the catalog. So pretty much no matter what we're working on, they have SOMETHING to help the cause. They didn't have a whole distributor for my 1946 Willys CJ-2A flathead, but the module is just fine with me.

    Converted the '54 Corvette to 12v and had to do something about points. Yep, they had a module to go in the stock dist and even have the option of 6v or 12v. Really made that a simple conversion.
  • 08-11-2013, 10:32 AM
    johnf
    BEER is the MSD 8350 ready to run any good for a boat??
  • 08-11-2013, 10:15 AM
    Beer:30
    Quote Originally Posted by southwind74 View Post
    These pertronix deals have multi- spark built in? No separate boxes? Tell me MSD has that too. I really like my MSD on my car but the boat doesn't have a cover, hard to hide stuff ...
    The Igniter-II has multi-spark DURING CRANKING. Then they have their own separate box if you need more. The Ignitor-III has multi-spark:
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    Here's the combo kit(s) that I usually get. They've gone up to $570-ish, but again - you get an ENTIRE ignition system. I am not saying they are the best / nor the best for EVERYONE's application. But for the "average" motor in the "average" vessel or car or truck - it's nice peace of mine to have everything working together and new. One place to go for any replacement parts.



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  • 08-11-2013, 07:54 AM
    southwind74
    These pertronix deals have multi- spark built in? No separate boxes? Tell me MSD has that too. I really like my MSD on my car but the boat doesn't have a cover, hard to hide stuff ...
  • 08-10-2013, 08:39 PM
    GottaJet
    Quote Originally Posted by Beer:30 View Post
    Possibility of upper bushing worn out in distributor? Would allow rotor to slop around inside the cap a bit.

    Personally, if I touch an OLD distributor, I just replace it with a Pertronix billet replacement. Inexpensive and rock solid.
    I popped a Pertronix in and it made a huge difference one and done just how I like it
  • 08-10-2013, 08:15 PM
    ol guy
    Quote Originally Posted by southwind74 View Post
    At old guy: you have the same motor I presume?
    Not any more but after 40 years of parts work and boating, boats and so on I have a pretty good clue of what he is going through! I did not mean to ruffle feathers or anything but what the OP is going through is not news to me! I have a cap and rotor in my shop in my spare parts pile and as I stated I have been through that before!!!
  • 08-10-2013, 07:59 PM
    Beer:30
    Quote Originally Posted by southwind74 View Post
    I'd rather not just throw money at it for a new dizy. It does run great as is. i just want a more permanent fix than wire brushing the rotor every other time out. I'll try the part number above maybe the last one I didn't push down far enough. Idk...
    Perfectly understandable. I just like to have everything the same, as much as possible. That way, I don't have MSD dist with Accel wires and a Mallory coil. One package, one brand, all new stuff, made to work WITH each other. Out in the middle of the lake, it's hard to find a parts store.
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