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  • 01-14-2010, 08:45 PM
    cs19
    Those boats in the winter time on the lower colorado river would be a ton of fun, the water is super low but would be perfect for winter time, you wouldnt see another boat on the water, you'd have it all to yourself in one of those, its just too low for anything else.
  • 01-14-2010, 05:18 PM
    bottom feeder
    James,
    Keep the entertainment coming! I hear you on pump recovery time. The axil flows we have been running are just flat unbelivable even in the foam. The just flat hook up. The skinny water is killer people just do not understand the rush of running a section first time blind.

    Dan,
    Yes loss of power or cavitation is huge. Most of the time cavitation will just be a burp on the revlimiter. loss of power often results in a boat recovery trip The ability to read the water and knowing what you boat can span are the things to live by.
  • 01-13-2010, 05:24 PM
    Xerophobic
    Teaser pic from video Part III

    if you're wondering how we got into this position....so was i!

  • 01-13-2010, 08:52 AM
    Squirtcha?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sold honda.bought hondo View Post
    Just like ridding a dirt bike down a trail...see the big rock on the trail? HIT the big rock on the trail...
    Funny how that works.
  • 01-12-2010, 09:38 PM
    SoldHondaBoughtHondo
    Quote Originally Posted by Xerophobic View Post
    Well put it this way Dan, at the end of the little back channel run in this vid
    a first time passenger in the back said to me (in reference to 2:41)

    "I thought we were gonna smoke the bank there" I had to honeslty reply "so did I!!!"




    You basically just gotta hold on and pray you've picked the line that will take you into deeper water and not some solid, unmovable object lol I'm sure its happened a ton where things dont go as planned, or the pump doesnt load up fast enough to avoid the "next" thing.

    Im actually somewhat surprised sometimes watching these videos because you really do get tunnel vision when you're driving and dont really focus on things other than the river, which after seeing how close we get to some things is maybe a good thing lol

    Video # 3 in the series will show you what can happen when it doesnt quite go as planned (altho admittedly it was hesitation which did me in that time, not shallow water) Hopefully have that done in the next week or so, Im still trying to get the audio track sorted out as thats what Im usually most fussy about these days
    Tunnel vision is a "good thing". Just like ridding a dirt bike down a trail...see the big rock on the trail? HIT the big rock on the trail...
    It's all about seeing the line and driving it..although with that boat ride,
    it looks like you could make a turn...and there might not be a line!

    What do you run on the bottom of those things a T6 skid plate?
    seems like hitting a rock would just can opener the bottom...and for sure you have to stay on the gas to draft less water..and to STEER!
    I probably watched that vid half a dozen times....very entertaining!!
  • 01-12-2010, 07:27 PM
    Xerophobic
    Quote Originally Posted by Sold honda.bought hondo View Post
    That looks like major fun!!!!
    I guess you have run that stretch before, right? It looks like every turn is a commitment to a line, and those who choke eat rocks!!
    Nope lol that was our first run to Myles trailerpark. The upstream run was completely "blind" and I had no clue where the river went etc The run down ,in the vid, I at least had "some" clue but the river was ultra rocky and you can see I made more than a few mistakes. Overall I was pretty happy cause you sure could hit alot of stuff in that run. Im not sure it would be runnable with much less water in it and I dont know how much further past Myles place we could have gone. I wasnt in a huge rush to find out haha

    Ill put some upstream footage in my next vid, I nailed a rock huge right as we arrived and then lost steering on a gravelbar and slide up the bank. Myles thought I did it on purpose so he "parked" next to me, I have him sliding in on video its pretty funny actually.

    This is where I ended up and the river in front of the park. I think I nailed a rock in the middle of the pic, was hard enough to dislodge my bowline, I remembed that much lol
  • 01-12-2010, 07:17 PM
    Xerophobic
    Quote Originally Posted by Squirtcha? View Post
    Always have to wonder. Since jets are so completely reliant on thrust for steering..........what the heck happens if you lose power?

    Particularly with the deep water boats where the water's really cookin. Seems like you'd get more than you bargained for ride-wise if you lost your power somehow.

    Well put it this way Dan, at the end of the little back channel run in this vid
    a first time passenger in the back said to me (in reference to 2:41)

    "I thought we were gonna smoke the bank there" I had to honeslty reply "so did I!!!"




    You basically just gotta hold on and pray you've picked the line that will take you into deeper water and not some solid, unmovable object lol I'm sure its happened a ton where things dont go as planned, or the pump doesnt load up fast enough to avoid the "next" thing.

    Im actually somewhat surprised sometimes watching these videos because you really do get tunnel vision when you're driving and dont really focus on things other than the river, which after seeing how close we get to some things is maybe a good thing lol

    Video # 3 in the series will show you what can happen when it doesnt quite go as planned (altho admittedly it was hesitation which did me in that time, not shallow water) Hopefully have that done in the next week or so, Im still trying to get the audio track sorted out as thats what Im usually most fussy about these days
  • 01-12-2010, 07:07 PM
    Xerophobic
    Quote Originally Posted by bottom feeder View Post
    The black and red HCM runs like 62-68 mph at 3200. Hamilton 312 done buy the skunkworks supercharged 6.0L. No rock strikes on that trip. That was a demo boat they let us take for the day.
    Up is less trouble as you have more time. In some spots we seen 50 mph water speed. So down leg is 50+ in spots. The skinny water stuff is just awsome!! We have a spring runn off trip planned for a "un runable" We are going to spending some time in Alaska this summer and should have lots of skinny water thare.
    When goin thru video footage a while back I came across old footage from when we drove to the Salmon River Race from Michigan, Is that the Payette that runs down the other side of the mtn pass when you're heading to Riggins? I have alot of footage from that drive, I was nearly licking the window of the truck as we drove along haha Be a wild run there for sure but I am certain we passed a whole lot of "un runnable" stuff too, for any boat! lol
  • 01-12-2010, 05:37 PM
    SoldHondaBoughtHondo
    Quote Originally Posted by Xerophobic View Post
    I simply have way too much good footage from last year but this clip is a bit unique in that its very continuous and I'm paying close attention and not looking all over the place(I wonder why!) It made for a simple edit, once I found a tune I liked.

    We tagged a fair bit but honestly less than I was expecting. More than a few "hang on" calls were given to the passenger which were unecessary

    enjoy!

    That looks like major fun!!!!
    I guess you have run that stretch before, right? It looks like every turn is a commitment to a line, and those who choke eat rocks!!
  • 01-12-2010, 04:49 PM
    Squirtcha?
    Always have to wonder. Since jets are so completely reliant on thrust for steering..........what the heck happens if you lose power?

    Particularly with the deep water boats where the water's really cookin. Seems like you'd get more than you bargained for ride-wise if you lost your power somehow.
  • 01-12-2010, 04:41 PM
    bottom feeder
    The black and red HCM runs like 62-68 mph at 3200. Hamilton 312 done buy the skunkworks supercharged 6.0L. No rock strikes on that trip. That was a demo boat they let us take for the day.
    Up is less trouble as you have more time. In some spots we seen 50 mph water speed. So down leg is 50+ in spots. The skinny water stuff is just awsome!! We have a spring runn off trip planned for a "un runable" We are going to spending some time in Alaska this summer and should have lots of skinny water thare.
  • 01-12-2010, 03:38 PM
    Xerophobic
    Down is alot worse for sure, your actual speed is boat speed less the river speed so you have to go alot faster to keep it up on step. Of course that leaves you way less time to react. Not to mention the water is always going downhill and its much harder to see stuff, especially if you're going slower and the bow is up. Sleeper rocks with a decent amount of water flowing over them can be deadly as you often dont see them till the last second.

    Of course these vids both show hugely different styles of boat and you can tell the larger one definitely had a seating position/design to address these issues specifically. I'd run those big waters but I think we`d need to equip my boat with a fitted cockpit cover like a kayak I dont think that sled would be running along behind me too often hehe

    In my vid there were area's we just had no choice to hit and even more than a few times I told my pass to hang on cause I thought we would, but didnt, that can be very satisfying
  • 01-12-2010, 02:50 PM
    Flash
    That looks like a good time!!!

    My only question is; if you're running in 1 to 2 feet of water then why the life jacket. Wouldn't you want to trade it in for a helmet???????

    Good Times
  • 01-12-2010, 02:26 PM
    brgrcru
    Quote Originally Posted by bottom feeder View Post
    Xerophobic,

    Here is one spring trip we took this year. We are the black and red HCM. has some skinny water and some big water. River is the payette from banks to big falls. here in idaho.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74-BI-iI-K8

    We are going agin this year and want to make big falls this time. Keep the vids flowing. I have some of hells canyon this summer. A week on the river
    Unbelievable, You guys are nuts. What is easier up or down? Down looks to be a little more crazy. What rpms are we turning the motors at? Just, way cool.
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