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    Hello fellow boaters. I need some input. I was out on my boat yesterday for the first time this season after having to replace the intake manifolds. So a buddy and I were testing and checking for any issues just mildly running it. Open the hatch everything looked good. Fired back up and decided to run it hard and see how it did. So I was going around 75-80 and noticed that the was possibly a sheriff, but he was to far to tell for sure. I just kept running and it look like the boat was going futher away as I ran closer to the shoreline. I decide to turn around and head back closer to where we launched and noticed the boat turned straight towards me and I proceed to the same direction and sure enough it was a Sheriff with blue lights on. He yells at me to shut boat down. I did and he pulls along side me. Say was pulling me over for noise. Told me to start boat and take it up to 2000 rpm and hold. Then shut down. Then with attitude tells me I have exhuat switch to make it quieter. I told him I do not and that he is welcome to get on my boat and look. He still insisted that I did. He proceeded to write me a ticket for noise. I asked him how he could write me a ticket when he did not have a DB meter to check if I was in fact over the limit. He told me he did not have one and that his ears even though very old could still hear that my boat was too loud. I tried to insist that we go back to the Sheriffs dock so he could get a DB meter to test and prove it was too loud. He told me he would not do it and his DB meter was not functioning properly. Does anyone have any knowledge of the law? Can an officer legally write a ticket for noice without a DB reading? I know my boat is loud, but does have baffles. It is a 609 CI Single blown motor. Here is a picture of my baffles Click image for larger version. 

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    He can write you for anything he wants, now you have to go to court and fight it , he's betting you don't. Noise ticket ! Who cares. , big deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by HALLETT BOY View Post
    He can write you for anything he wants, now you have to go to court and fight it , he's betting you don't. Noise ticket ! Who cares. , big deal
    I care because I was kicked off the lake without a db reading to know how much over or under the legal limit my boat is. I was threatened to have the boat impounded if I kept it or if I brought it back on the water.
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    That sucks! Good luck in court, I think its your only course of action. Really nice boat by the way.

    That Sheriff must have been having a bad day.
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    My family used to have places there dating back to the '5o's into the '90's, and it used to be a great hot boat lake. In the last 15 years its gone to shit. The whole community is starving there, yet they keep giving people more reasons not to return. As if there aren't many. Specifically the LEO, have been egotistical assholes. Yeah, I would have said screw it, take the ticket, and enjoy your day, but threat of impound changes things. However, I feel the Leo, would have lost in court, which would have been interesting after an impound. Just not worth all the trouble. Sorry for the yet another shitty Clear Lake experience. I used to do nothing but defend that place... Lastly, not to salt any wounds, but we had 15 flats,3 blow, and one blown w/zoomies at Berryessa, and no problems..

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    The Sheriff at Lake Shasta told use a couple of weeks ago that they were getting a DB gun and going to start checking and tagging people. I wasn't there this weekend but from what i have been told atleast 2 boats received tickets and to get off the lake. I guess i'll find out Wendsday when I go up since my houseboat is only about 400' from the Sheriff office. He told use he was going to work with us , I guess i'll see how that goes then.

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    It does seem like you just have to take this one to court. When the judge throws it out then call the sheriff's dept and complain.

    Keep us posted.

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    Post up the out come...we are supposed to visit my family next month they are in the keys are and was going to bring the boat up. Not sure how loud it is I'm always driving


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    Something must have changed or you got a Sheriff that likes to act like the holy man. I ran my Sanger flat last summer on the the lake with dry pipes and no baffles installed. I passed a couple of them and never got a second look. We will be there Wednesday thru Sunday so we shall see. I am not taking the flat this time I am taking the Howard and I would say it is not quiet.
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    Fight it. It is a cop trying to throw his weight around. Our flattie has been on Clear Lake since my father pulled us around in the 1970s. No baffles. In the 1990s , I bought the boat from him and ran dry pipes. Almost 20 years been running dry. I tried zoomies, but they frowned on that. Have spent most weekends running during the summer with the flat. Even after work on some weekdays. Dont let that cop bully you bud. Another guy here who went to CLHS here.

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    My Sanity as known on the forums and I raced down along the south shore by Lands End to the County Park by Kelseyville. We both held the loud peddles. Pulled 7500RPMs on that engine with dry stacks. Bonzai Brian was there and a few others. We had a fun time. Won some, lost some. I even went side by side with former CHP Pete N on Clear Lake.

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    IF you want to take the time to fight it, all the judge wants to see (if the deputy shows up, that is) is EVIDENCE. So, I would video the outside of the boat - walking from front to back to get the hull reg so there's no dispute about ID of the rig. Without stopping video, have the boat hooked to water or IN the water and have someone fire it up. Buy a cheap DB meter and set it up the appropriate distance from rear of boat. Even better - go to the lake patrol or whatever office the guy who cited you is out of and ask their front desk person what the section is so you can do it by the book. Distance, RPM, everything to conform to what the Judge would want to see/hear.

    IF YOUR BOAT passed "by the rules", then present the video in court. You could even video the dash to show there's no switch.

    And those aren't BAFFLES, they are IMCO GATLIN tips. They are usual quite legal behind a mild 502, but you might want to actually check how legal they are or aren't with the pressure of a 600+ inch blower motor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by www.rpphobby.com View Post
    Hello fellow boaters. I need some input. I was out on my boat yesterday for the first time this season after having to replace the intake manifolds. So a buddy and I were testing and checking for any issues just mildly running it. Open the hatch everything looked good. Fired back up and decided to run it hard and see how it did. So I was going around 75-80 and noticed that the was possibly a sheriff, but he was to far to tell for sure. I just kept running and it look like the boat was going futher away as I ran closer to the shoreline. I decide to turn around and head back closer to where we launched and noticed the boat turned straight towards me and I proceed to the same direction and sure enough it was a Sheriff with blue lights on. He yells at me to shut boat down. I did and he pulls along side me. Say was pulling me over for noise. Told me to start boat and take it up to 2000 rpm and hold. Then shut down. Then with attitude tells me I have exhuat switch to make it quieter. I told him I do not and that he is welcome to get on my boat and look. He still insisted that I did. He proceeded to write me a ticket for noise. I asked him how he could write me a ticket when he did not have a DB meter to check if I was in fact over the limit. He told me he did not have one and that his ears even though very old could still hear that my boat was too loud. I tried to insist that we go back to the Sheriffs dock so he could get a DB meter to test and prove it was too loud. He told me he would not do it and his DB meter was not functioning properly. Does anyone have any knowledge of the law? Can an officer legally write a ticket for noice without a DB reading? I know my boat is loud, but does have baffles. It is a 609 CI Single blown motor. Here is a picture of my baffles Click image for larger version. 

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    In 1977 the leo at Calero Res in San Jose CA gave me a ticket for speed, noise and some flotation nonsense, "in my 1964 Stevens wood deck/427 Ford w/ thru transom exhaust!!!" I looked up the local ordinances on each infraction. Before court when I talked to the prosecutor I quoted the chapter and verse for speeding, citing that there was NO posted speed limit and the sheriff did not have a radar, he threw it out, I did the same thing with the noise portion citing the ignat didn't have a decibel meter OR a course set up to test for noise, same outcome as the speeding issue. Finally I showed the prosecutor that the sheriff had written a violation for a throw-able cushion in the section for canoes ... yep, thrown out.

    I then wrote a letter to the sheriff's dept and the San Jose Mercury News explaining how inept the particular sheriff was, he only patrolled that lake for less than a month after that, I was not the only person that complained about the guy ... the park ranger (great guy, John Goldsworthy) laughed as he told us the guy had been reassigned to a park.

    Fight the ticket then write letters to the local news papers and maybe even make up and circulate flyers to local businesses so they know why their businesses are slower than years past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franger View Post
    In 1977 the leo at Calero Res in San Jose CA gave me a ticket for speed, noise and some flotation nonsense, "in my 1964 Stevens wood deck/427 Ford w/ thru transom exhaust!!!" I looked up the local ordinances on each infraction. Before court when I talked to the prosecutor I quoted the chapter and verse for speeding, citing that there was NO posted speed limit and the sheriff did not have a radar, he threw it out, I did the same thing with the noise portion citing the ignat didn't have a decibel meter OR a course set up to test for noise, same outcome as the speeding issue. Finally I showed the prosecutor that the sheriff had written a violation for a throw-able cushion in the section for canoes ... yep, thrown out.

    I then wrote a letter to the sheriff's dept and the San Jose Mercury News explaining how inept the particular sheriff was, he only patrolled that lake for less than a month after that, I was not the only person that complained about the guy ... the park ranger (great guy, John Goldsworthy) laughed as he told us the guy had been reassigned to a park.

    Fight the ticket then write letters to the local news papers and maybe even make up and circulate flyers to local businesses so they know why their businesses are slower than years past.

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