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    Default what about lake berryessa???

    has anyone heard or know what is going to happing with berryessa now that the economy has taking a crap??? iv been up there twice and havnt seen any constuction going on....


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    Prob. going to be a collection of ghost towns.....Sad

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    last I heard was the contract negotiations between the Feds and the Pensus Group were stalled and an actual contract has not been awarded yet. Pensus is the company that put in the top bid to be the main concessionaire.
    Also heard that it could very well be 10-12 yrs before anything is complete.

    true or not, I don't know but the way things are going, it does make sense. Just another of many Federal f*ck ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cas View Post
    last I heard was the contract negotiations between the Feds and the Pensus Group were stalled and an actual contract has not been awarded yet. Pensus is the company that put in the top bid to be the main concessionaire.
    Also heard that it could very well be 10-12 yrs before anything is complete.

    true or not, I don't know but the way things are going, it does make sense. Just another of many Federal f*ck ups.

    thats what i was thinking but wasnt what i wanted to hear...wonder if anyone is maning the gate at steel park for launching im gonna have to call them up!!!


    called while i was typing...steel park launch is open until mid april then she said they have to vacate...
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    I just got this in an email from a friend of mine-

    Contract Talks With Pensus Cancelled - The Lake Berryessa Disaster
    Expands!

    In a surprising, but not completely unexpected move, the Bureau of
    Reclamation cancelled contract talks with the Pensus Group. In
    carefully worded bureaucratese, they tried to minimize the clearly
    disastrous impact of this decision. The only “bright” spot is that
    they imply they will consider “opportunities for uninterrupted
    operations” at Steele Park.

    Released by BOR:3/16/09 - Transition in Visitor Services at Lake
    Berryessa Will Extend Through the 2009 Season

    The transition in visitor services at Lake Berryessa will continue
    through the 2009 recreation season as the Bureau of Reclamation
    continues to implement the Visitor Services Plan Record of Decision
    (VSP ROD). The VSP ROD requires renovation of seven concession areas
    to provide a broader, more diverse range of short-term recreation
    opportunities for enjoyment by the general public. Implementation of
    the VSP ROD coincides with expiration of 50-year concession contracts
    and award of new long-term contracts to develop, operate, and maintain
    expanded visitor facilities.

    Award of new long-term contracts remains in progress. In March 2009,
    Reclamation determined that the original contract solicitation did not
    fully conform to legal requirements governing reimbursement for
    capital improvements. On that basis, the negotiations for new
    contracts have been cancelled. Reclamation expects to initiate a
    revised solicitation within the next 120 days and award new long-term
    contracts prior to the 2010 recreation season.

    In the interim, visitor services at all Government-operated recreation
    areas will be fully operational, including a free two-lane boat-launch
    ramp at Capell Cove; hand-launch ramps at Eticuera and Oak Shores;
    areas for picnicking, fishing, and swimming at Smittle Creek and Oak
    Shores Day-Use Areas; and a visitor center and water education center
    at Reclamation's Headquarters. Reclamation further anticipates
    expanded recreational opportunities at Oak Shores Day-Use Area and
    Camp Berryessa (the former Boy Scout Camp) to include RV and tent
    camping. In addition to Government-operated facilities, Reclamation
    will continue to pursue opportunities for uninterrupted operations at
    Pleasure Cove Marina, Steele Park, and Markley Cove concession areas.

    Also in the interim, Reclamation will continue cleanup and removal
    activities at Rancho Monticello, Berryessa Marina, Putah Creek, and
    Spanish Flat concession areas so that development and operation of new
    recreation facilities can begin as soon as possible in 2010. Services
    at those concession areas will remain closed in 2009 to ensure cleanup
    is completed prior to contract award

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    Just read this in todays Napa Register.

    http://www.naparegister.com/articles...d454265804.txt

    Not sounding good at all!

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    I read this shiat yesterday.. just fucking Great.

    By my calculations the lake will be dead for 3 years.

    1 year for the Feds to extricate their head from their ass. (if thats even possible )

    1 year to sign a new contract

    1 year to build. (and then some)

    Thats if we are lucky and nothing else gets screwed up, which it probably will...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveC View Post
    I read this shiat yesterday.. just fucking Great.

    By my calculations the lake will be dead for 3 years.

    1 year for the Feds to extricate their head from their ass. (if thats even possible )

    1 year to sign a new contract

    1 year to build. (and then some)

    Thats if we are lucky and nothing else gets screwed up, which it probably will...

    shit bro your more optimistic than me i was guessing within the next 5yrs...what a friggin joke! i hope they atleast keep steel park launch open. the fre launch sux azz did it one time never again 1/4- 1/2 mile walk to get your truck


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    Quote Originally Posted by 707DOG View Post
    shit bro your more optimistic than me i was guessing within the next 5yrs...what a friggin joke! i hope they atleast keep steel park launch open. the fre launch sux azz did it one time never again 1/4- 1/2 mile walk to get your truck
    and you didn't mention the amount of theft that happens at that launch. Trailers, trailer tires/wheels, trailer lights, car/truck break-ins, it's all there.
    Maybe with closing all the resorts past that launch/parking lot will cut down on all that though.
    At this point, the elimination of the criminal element might be the only bright spot in this whole fiasco.

    I wonder if anyone has looked into just turning Spanish Flat into a campground only area. Have RV sites, tent only sites, a day use section, a snack bar and a little general store....kind of like what's at Tower Park?

    Come to think of it, I wonder how open KOA would be to the idea?
    just kind of thinking out loud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cas View Post
    and you didn't mention the amount of theft that happens at that launch. Trailers, trailer tires/wheels, trailer lights, car/truck break-ins, it's all there.
    Maybe with closing all the resorts past that launch/parking lot will cut down on all that though.
    At this point, the elimination of the criminal element might be the only bright spot in this whole fiasco.

    I wonder if anyone has looked into just turning Spanish Flat into a campground only area. Have RV sites, tent only sites, a day use section, a snack bar and a little general store....kind of like what's at Tower Park?

    Come to think of it, I wonder how open KOA would be to the idea?
    just kind of thinking out loud.

    yep i totaly left out that aspect of it! it would be nice if they could at least have some kinda camping/better launching going on while they figure out the removal process of "head up the azz"!


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    It also seems like all of those spots that used to have mobile homes on them could easily be made into RV camping spots. Sewage, water and power already in place.

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    But what about those people that bought vacation spots there?? That would really suck

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharky View Post
    But what about those people that bought vacation spots there?? That would really suck
    The BOR basically said "get out"
    If you feel like doing a lot of reading, check out these links-
    Record of Decision, Future Recreation Use
    Transition Services

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cas View Post
    The BOR basically said "get out"
    If you feel like doing a lot of reading, check out these links-
    Record of Decision, Future Recreation Use
    Transition Services


    yep move your shit or we will move it for ya and send you the bill


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