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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSteve View Post
    Excellent points guys
    Exposing the double edged sword
    It cuts both ways
    Overcoming objections becomes more difficult to justify
    The WarCanoe will never do well in the hair pin corners
    The best way is a full power to a chopped power slide reducing the gyroscope effort of the spinning top heavy motor
    I have ideas to help slow the boat quicker and heal the boat to port
    It involves a trick tunnel tab cav plate linkage arrangements and stops a air brake chamber for activation and qr-1 quick release valve
    The driver pushes a floor mounted trim switch to electric air solenoid activation
    Whats the hull weigh bare?

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    The boat is very heavy Pig
    At the Parker race it was 1830 pounds with 25 gals on board at the post race inspection

    We had a paper chip 19 Daytona w 2.5 as that was really quick for a cove
    However it didn't like rough water at all
    The proportions of the cougars heavy weight reach a good balance of hydrodynamic /aerodynamic bottom design. Works out very well in rough water for maintaining WFO operations at a neutral trim
    Lift off the throttle the nose comes up step to wide open the nose drops down the boat flys flat thru the air stepping thru Parker race traffic or yacht traffic in the Delta

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    Finishing the trailer off with new tires/rims
    Went from 14" to 15"
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    Looking good!

    Way back when I was running my 88 Daytona with the Evenrude 4L V8 it handled awesome in the rough, it was heavy. When I re did it, I gutted the interior, and went to a merc 280 15" and it didn't handle the rough as well. I always felt that in rough conditions it ran harder when it was heavy.
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    Changing water conditions make for some great boating in the Delta

    The light boats are quick and fast down the back water sloughs
    The heavier boats are better in the channels
    Darcy it makes for a pretty even day of follow the leader

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    Darcy, the weight and balance on the Canoe is pretty spot on with a 300 xs
    And it rides and handles well 1 1/4" above the pad

    It would be a bit of a bitch to make a 400 Verado work as well overall
    But if the rule book says green motor 1/2 " below the pad it then becomes a poor handling torque war and I rebalance the boat moving fuel tanks foreword

    I have my eyes open for several motor combos I would be happy with
    A DBR power head
    A Wayne Worthy 4.2 Yamaha / sport master combo

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSteve View Post
    Darcy, the weight and balance on the Canoe is pretty spot on with a 300 xs
    And it rides and handles well 1 1/4" above the pad

    It would be a bit of a bitch to make a 400 Verado work as well overall
    But if the rule book says green motor 1/2 " below the pad it then becomes a poor handling torque war and I rebalance the boat moving fuel tanks foreword

    I have my eyes open for several motor combos I would be happy with
    A DBR power head
    A Wayne Worthy 4.2 Yamaha / sport master combo
    are you running the canoe this year, in the Parker Enduro?
    i thought you were happy with the 300xs engine, you guys did so well with that combo, what advantages do you expect with the 4 stroke? I would love to get my hands on one for my Talon..
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    Steve, strap me onto the cowl of your 300XS and go test. I think you'll get the idea of just how much work your in for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badbait View Post
    Steve, strap me onto the cowl of your 300XS and go test. I think you'll get the idea of just how much work your in for.


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    Darcy
    Wild Bill tells me
    Its hard to stop a dog from killing chickens after they get a taste of the blood
    It is a long way to go for some great action on a closed course with a half century history of attracting the best drivers and teams

    I would prefer rule changes to the green class. A 300xs has a better gear ratio and is surfacing lower unit and will kick a Yama in the Ass if allowed to run surfaced. The Yama gear case has blow out issues
    However the Yama works better at 1/2 below and at lower speeds
    I like the Yamaha its powerful with a computer remapping and Wayne makes a adaptor to run a Merc sportmaster gearcase

    Maybe that's the best you can do these days with a POS stock Yama Gearcase for the Parker race .Then swap out to a Merc sport master for pleasure boating

    The diffenition of today's race boat is
    A boat that is slower then a pleasure boat

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    First test ride results from modifying the bottom

    Taking the edges on the sponsons forward of the drivers seat and rounding them made the the boat less likely to grab an edge on calm water cornering

    Modifying the pad to lift the nose a couple inches higher for a more comfortable ride especially the rear seat in afternoon chop worked out well

    The boat felt like it could use a little more set back.
    I modified the frankinspine with a couple more inches of set back and a transom angle change
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    Steve, the boat looks great.

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    Excellent test session today
    With Wild Bill
    The new set back brackets worked out well
    Spent some time getting Bills Stoker ready to rip and test with
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