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    Alright I am looking at 22' Daytonas as an upgrade from my 19' jet boat. I need a boat to handle some fairly rough water and carry 4-6 people. My extensive searches on the 22 Daytona don't help my with these questions and there are none in my area to go look at.

    1. How big are these boats? They look long and wide, but how deep?
    2. How do they ride? I will be running with 24'-26' V-bottom type boats.
    3. Is this a 4 seat boat or will it hold 6 people?
    4. Can you sit in the seats and bend your legs 90 degrees or do you sit so low that you have to kick your legs out?

    Things like that are my main concern. I know the obvious answer is to step up to a 25' and I may if I can find one that is within reach. V-bottoms of the same size or bigger are more moderately prices, but I really want a cat!

    Any pics of one with passengers would be great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by puppyjp View Post
    Alright I am looking at 22' Daytonas as an upgrade from my 19' jet boat. I need a boat to handle some fairly rough water and carry 4-6 people. My extensive searches on the 22 Daytona don't help my with these questions and there are none in my area to go look at.1. How big are these boats? They look long and wide, but how deep?2. How do they ride? I will be running with 24'-26' V-bottom type boats.3. Is this a 4 seat boat or will it hold 6 people?4. Can you sit in the seats and bend your legs 90 degrees or do you sit so low that you have to kick your legs out?Things like that are my main concern. I know the obvious answer is to step up to a 25' and I may if I can find one that is within reach. V-bottoms of the same size or bigger are more moderately prices, but I really want a cat!Any pics of one with passengers would be great!
    The 22’ Daytona is a 22’-2" hull and not as wide as you would think at a 92" beam. They are not a deep hull for its length, look how close the top of the gimbal comes to the rub rail that separates the top deck and the bottom hull. You can also tell by the big box on top of the engine hatch to covers the engine. I don’t think you will see the same ride quality as a 24/26 vee bottom. All 22’ Daytona’s came with 2 front buckets seats and a rear bench seat. The rear bench will fit 3 adults or maybe 4 small kids or very friendly adults. The seats are very low; the seat bases are only inches high with maybe 5 inches of cushion for a total of maybe 8 inches floor to butt.The 22 Dayton never started out to be an Eliminator. The original plug was commissioned by Dave at DCB. The tooling company rented a building that was on the Eliminator property. The company tooled boats for other builders including Tom at Warlock Boats. Tom saw the plug and wanted a copy, so the tooler started to make patterns to build a plug for Tom. Dave came by to check out the progress on his plug and saw it was being copied. Dave tried to remove the simi-completed plug form the building and that turned into something form a TV sitcom. Dave and a few others were trying to pull the plug out and others where trying to pull it back into the shop, it was a comical tug-of-war with a boat plug! Dave went to Bob Leach and struck a deal. Dave sold his rights to the plug to Bob and in return Dave could purchase completed hulls of the 22 along with 19 & 21 Daytona models. Once the deal was struck, a group of Eliminator employees removed the plug and finished it in the main Eliminator building.There have been 3 different 22 Dayton’s, 4 if you include the Wisconsin model. The first and the one I liked the most had the lowest profile and had the wrap-a-round plastic windshield. The next deck used the same bottom mold but had a deck that looked like the first gen 25’ Daytona. I never really liked this model as the deck seemed to overpower the bottom; it just seemed like too much on a shallow bottom. The design also limited the cockpit room, squeezing the front buckets close together and the rear bench lost almost a foot of width. The next model got a new bottom and a new deck that resembled the 27 Daytona. The bottom was a modified version of the original with a little more freeboard. Now the deck and bottom looked in proportion. The first generation 22 Daytona had 2 different bottoms. One was the original used for standard MerCruiser the Bravo/Alpha drives. The other bottom was produced by adding inserts to the original bottom and was designed for the MerCruiser Black Hawk drive. The inserts where designed by Steve Donahue of MerCruiser Marine for his personal boat that was also used to test MerCruiser products. Putting a standard Bravo drive on the modified bottom did not work well so it was a Black Hawk only bottom.There were a lot of outboard versions of the 22’ Daytona, both with single and twin power. The outboard had a much larger cockpit with back-to-back buckets and a rear bench seat. The seating went from 5 to 7. There were never any Jet versions built. The center hull was about an inch higher than the outer sponsons and it had a step at the rear.
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    I hade a 95 22 Daytona for years it had a low free board it could take some chop not what a 25 v could take an its more like 5 people unless you got small kids in the back mine hade a solid floor with the ski locker an the seats wear 6 in off the floor so you sat low an I couldn't really put a ice chest under the bow it was tight under there im 6.3 so it was hard to get stuff from under there I think there great boats but there are small still mine had a black hawk on it so it was different from a brovo I think the newer 22s have more free board an deeper cockpit area wear will you be boating at

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    I do most all my boating on the TN/KY line on Kentucky Lake and the Tennessee River. With miles of open water, a mild wind easily creates white capping waves. Throw in a holiday weekend and it tends to be on the rough side.

    I'm trying not to make a mistake by getting a 22 Daytona, hence the research. Even tho I have a strong desire to have a catamaran, the practicality of the 22 may not be enough for me, especially when a 5-8 year newer 24'-27' Baja is the same money.

    I have found a 93 and a 95 model in my searches so far.

    Good info above. I'm not even going to ask how you know all that. . .

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    Dont make the mistake i made i bought a 92 22 daytona and its the only boat i have ever hated. You would be better off looking for a 24 or 25 daytona i have had both of those also they were much better boats

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    definitely go 25, I love mine never ridden in a 22 but it seems like there is no price difference on used ones

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    I have an 01 25 Daytona and love it. It was a compromise for me to be able to go to the lower shallower Colorado River, and be able to go to the nightmare we call Havasu as I was single at the time when I bought it. It doesn't require the depths that the big V's require, has plenty of room, and is extremely comfortable. Even enough room under the deck to get frisky! Before you pull the trigger research the single and double step versions. I have the single and have a slight porpoise at 70mph. Not a biggy, but some have plusses and minus's about each. Insurance is about a grand a year. I just run the stock 496MagHO for about 70-73mph, but it's reliable and cheap on fuel. My only complaint is that I have to do at least 30mph to stay on plane, but may look into trim tabs when my son gets to the tubing stage. If you want to go big on the HP, the drive's will run about $15k, headers can easily run $3500-5500. Try and find one with the external steering as over 70's its a must. You can pull it with any half ton truck, but a diesel makes you feel like it's not even there. It might be tough to find one on your side of the country, but I know there are a few in Texas. You might be able to fly out and drive it back with a rental, or have one of the guys on RiverDaves tow it back for you.

    Some of what Southern Cal has to offer

    * 25 foot Eliminator Daytona * Like New * Super Fast * EFI * 525 HP *

    22 Eliminator Daytona 2001

    Eliminator 22 Daytona Black Hawk

    2000 Eliminator 25 Daytona Openbow,HP500

    Eliminator 25' Daytona Mercury 600SC HUGE STEREO SUPER CLEAN!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99twentyfive View Post
    definitely go 25, I love mine never ridden in a 22 but it seems like there is no price difference on used ones
    I'm not finding any 25's anywhere near the pirce of the 22's.

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    Here's my $0.02

    I have ridden in a 22 Daytona, and I personally own a 21 Liberator. I didn't feel like the 22 Daytona was any larger in the interior than my boat, nor did I notice a difference in ride quality. The Dayona was I/O and my boat is jet...so any comparison beyond that would be apples to oranges; but the bottom line is, I think a 21' Liberator might be something you should look at. They are a little taller than a 21 Daytona, and have a slightly larger interior. The downside is that you will probably not find many with I/Os. They are out there...but most are jet or O/B.

    If you search my posts, you'll see some pics of the interior of my boat...to give you an idea for size. Over the 4th I had 4 adults and 2 kids (all under 8 years old) in it with no issue. I have also had 5 adults in it, also all said they were quite comfortable...it could probably stretch to 6 adults, but I doubt it would be very comfortable. If you buy an O/B Liberator, the rear seat it moved farther rearward, so you could potentially seat more comfortably (though I'd suspect you'd have to add some front/back facing type buckets, otherwise it'd just be the same seats as my boat, but with more rear leg room).

    To answer you're questions in the OP (but with a 21' Liberator as the subject).

    1. How big are these boats? They look long and wide, but how deep? - Measured from just in front of the rear seat - 21" from top of the tunnel to the top of the hull, 29" from sponson to top of the hull (most Liberators do not have flat floors).
    2. How do they ride? I will be running with 24'-26' V-bottom type boats. - Excellent. With a jet, they sometimes have a hard time staying hooked up on the water. However, in general they ride very well. Mine has been on Lake Erie (went from Toledo, OH to 20 miles from Detroit, MI). Certain types of waves do upset them...such as large waves that are very close together. I have a friend who has a 24' Cheetah Stilleto; I think they are comparable.
    3. Is this a 4 seat boat or will it hold 6 people? - It will seat 5 adults comfortably (of course this depends on the size of the adults). I think you could fix 6 adults...but I don't think they would be comfortable...at all. If you were thinking 4 adults and 2 kids, then it would be great!
    4. Can you sit in the seats and bend your legs 90 degrees or do you sit so low that you have to kick your legs out? - You can sit with your legs 90*, as long as you are straddling the tunnels. In the front seat you can basically choose, you can either prop your feet out in front of you on top of the tunnel, or sit "chair style" if you straddle the tunnel. The front seats have tons of leg room, the rear seats will depend based on what power system. O/B will have TONS of leg room, I/O will have good/ok leg room - as will a jet...unless you have the engine farther forward than a typical "stock" build (like...if you scoot the engine forward for a jetaway, etc)

    I like my 21' Liberator jet enough that even though I want to sell it...it's only so I can buy a 21' Liberator with a 300XS.

    It's a shame you're in TN, or I'd take you out in mine.
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    keep looking there out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by puppyjp View Post
    I'm not finding any 25's anywhere near the pirce of the 22's.
    You wont find a 25 Daytona for the same price range as the early 22 Daytona with the Plexiglas windshield that was why I mentioned the 24 Daytona you will find one of those in the 20K price range and that boat is a huge step from what you are in now. I really loved my 24 kept it 8 years the only other thing I have kept that long is the old ball and chain. What ever you do not buy a Baja!!!!!
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    I have a 2013 22' daytona and 1990 Motion 25'. They both have there strengths. The picture of the daytona is prior to rigging it, I have twin 300xs on it. The daytona22 is a cut down daytona 27, 101" beam. I boat of a river and I think the Daytona is going to work out better for the kind of boating we do. Cruise above 70 with little or no propoise. I love the motion though, it handles big chop and strong winds.
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    Does anyone have any pics of a 22 Daytona with people in it? Seating position is important.

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