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    We're still shopping for our next boat. We've made a deposit on a 27 Daytona, but after shopping at the boat show my wife and I have expanded out looking to include the F29. We've settled in on getting twin outboards. We really like the 27 Daytona, but would also like more freeboard. Eliminator has not done a 28 Daytona with outboards, so I'm a little unsure about being the first.

    Does anybody here have a F29 with twin 300xs outboards? What do you think of it? What is the top speed? How is the planing time? Does it porpoise? Does it ride like a F29 with I/O's? Any other good info?

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    Stay away from the Kool-Aid.

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    I would suggest tasting some cool aid before making a decision. One ride in 26 Mach convinced me that the deeper tunnels are the way to go. I'm sure the 29 is even better.

    Grey Goose here on the boards has a nice 29 with outboards. Maybe he'll chime in.

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    John....go for the F-29....working with Dave, Bryan & the DCB team is a great experience....I would contact Dave (assuming you have not) and ask him. I found DH to be honest, straight forward and candid! Just go for it!

    He may even take that F-you-finger boat in on trade!!

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    F29 with outboards.... great riding boat, rock solid, but not all that fast compared to what else is available in the same line. (what 108'isht Grey goose??) Talk to the guy that has WetWillie old F29 with the TCM1050 quadrotor.... EVERYONE that has been in that F29 raves of it! Some very popular high performace boaters were VERY close to building big power single F29's. They WORK! Way better roll over, and you loose a ton-o-weight with one less everything back there. With the new Xpower drive which robs way less Hp, and weighs 100's less then a six drive, and will accept up to 1500hp...MAY BE the next hot set up. For the price I was going to build the F29 with the GT Quad-rotor/six drive/pimp everything..... was a deal compared other options. Dave was saying the bagged/light F29 we were going to build was going to be 125+ mph, Also, I was pretty lucky with my twin 300X motors... check around though, they arent known for great reliablability.
    There's going to be many choices soon in this size range... F29, E-ticket, new 28 Daytona speedster, new Ultra 28/28?? full windscreen, new Howard cat coming. Dont forget about a 32 Doug Wright! Start collecting a few motors and drives and have one built.... for what Andy said he could build for is just crazy low money lots of choices these days...
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    twin motors and canopies are two top priorities. big motors are very cool and all and i agree that the new drive looks bitchin', however we want to go with something totally different this time and build a boat with twin outboards. higher efficiency and twin motor reliability.

    I'd like to still do 100mph, or at least very close to it. From what I understand, the F29 with twin 300xs should do right at 100mph. Can anybody verify this?

    We're unsure of the new 28 speedster Daytona. The wraparound windshield looks very cool. I just don't see an easy way to get on the deck of the boat. E-Ticket is also a very cool boat, however it has zero freeboard and you're sitting right on the floor. We would like to sit a little higher like in the F29 and be able to access a cabin area. I did not know about the new Howard cat, so I'll look into that one a little. We're not going to buy another Ultra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John. View Post
    twin motors and canopies are two top priorities. big motors are very cool and all and i agree that the new drive looks bitchin', however we want to go with something totally different this time and build a boat with twin outboards. higher efficiency and twin motor reliability.

    I'd like to still do 100mph, or at least very close to it. From what I understand, the F29 with twin 300xs should do right at 100mph. Can anybody verify this?

    We're unsure of the new 28 speedster Daytona. The wraparound windshield looks very cool. I just don't see an easy way to get on the deck of the boat. E-Ticket is also a very cool boat, however it has zero freeboard and you're sitting right on the floor. We would like to sit a little higher like in the F29 and be able to access a cabin area. I did not know about the new Howard cat, so I'll look into that one a little. We're not going to buy another Ultra.
    I can tell you that in 70 HRS of very hard running they are just short of unbelievable .The boat you choose is up to you ,and as long as everything is setup right I don't think you can go wrong with any Cat you choose. The fuel useage is great they use little oil with no smoke and a stock 2 year warranty. And they're cheap to buy for what you get. But as far as being reliable I know quite a few people that run them and they are a great step forward from the old 300s .Yesterday we ran from BHC to the gorge (37miles at times 115 mph)averaging 108 mph just under 6000 rpm the whole way because we could . No people at all in the way to slow us a real treat compared to summer,but the point is what motor do you feel comfortable holding it clamped for 20 minutes and not blow it up . There are not many that I know of that will do that with a 2 year warranty . You are on the right track with you choice of power, I think you will be VERY happy . I hope this helps.

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    we're definitely solid on our power choice of going with outboards. reliability and efficiency are great. We're also definitely solid on wanting canopies. We want to make sure that we pair the power with the right boat that we like. The 27 Daytona is awesome and we really like it...its just that the F29 is also my dream boat and it looks to be within reach. The other plus is that Carlos and Bryan said that Dave would take our current boat in on trade. We have not talked numbers yet, so that could mean almost anything. On the flip side, Jake at Eliminator said they would not take our boat in on trade. so, we can not start building an Eliminator until the current boat sells. So that gives the DCB some more advantage if we're unable to sell the WCF ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John. View Post
    we're definitely solid on our power choice of going with outboards. reliability and efficiency are great. We're also definitely solid on wanting canopies. We want to make sure that we pair the power with the right boat that we like. The 27 Daytona is awesome and we really like it...its just that the F29 is also my dream boat and it looks to be within reach. The other plus is that Carlos and Bryan said that Dave would take our current boat in on trade. We have not talked numbers yet, so that could mean almost anything. On the flip side, Jake at Eliminator said they would not take our boat in on trade. so, we can not start building an Eliminator until the current boat sells. So that gives the DCB some more advantage if we're unable to sell the WCF ourselves.
    I don't no how the 29 will act with OBs have they done one? It is alot of boat . I do know that a 30 Spectre or Skater will go over a 100 with 2 of those . Keep me posted on what you do I am interested.

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    [QUOTE=John.;59584]we're definitely solid on our power choice of going with outboards. reliability and efficiency are great. We're also definitely solid on wanting canopies. We want to make sure that we pair the power with the right boat that we like. The 27 Daytona is awesome and we really like it...its just that the F29 is also my dream boat and it looks to be within reach. The other plus is that Carlos and Bryan said that Dave would take our current boat in on trade. We have not talked numbers yet, so that could mean almost anything. On the flip side, Jake at Eliminator said they would not take our boat in on trade. so, we can not start building an Eliminator until the current boat sells. So that gives the DCB some more advantage if we're unable to sell the WCF ourselves.


    "We're also definitely solid on wanting canopies." You need to spend some seat time behind canopies before you make this statement. There's a reason everyone is switching to a one piece windshield! Canopies are light years better then what you are used too, BUT if your going to spend the large coin spend some time in each first. Drive a canopy boat and try looking through the passengers canopy. You will find that your always fighting to see whats around you...they are tough at times. But like I said better then nothing at all. Did you look through Ultra's new one piece screen while there. I'd asume Dave will be right with
    the ban wagon and be tooling a new wrap around 26 and 29 soon as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John. View Post
    we're definitely solid on our power choice of going with outboards. reliability and efficiency are great. We're also definitely solid on wanting canopies. We want to make sure that we pair the power with the right boat that we like. The 27 Daytona is awesome and we really like it...its just that the F29 is also my dream boat and it looks to be within reach. The other plus is that Carlos and Bryan said that Dave would take our current boat in on trade. We have not talked numbers yet, so that could mean almost anything. On the flip side, Jake at Eliminator said they would not take our boat in on trade. so, we can not start building an Eliminator until the current boat sells. So that gives the DCB some more advantage if we're unable to sell the WCF ourselves.


    "We're also definitely solid on wanting canopies." You need to spend some seat time behind canopies before you make this statement. There's a reason everyone is switching to a one piece windshield! Canopies are light years better then what you are used too, BUT if your going to spend the large coin spend some time in each first. Drive a canopy boat and try looking through the passengers canopy. You will find that your always fighting to see whats around you...they are tough at times. But like I said better then nothing at all. Did you look through Ultra's new one piece screen while there. I'd asume Dave will be right with
    the ban wagon and be tooling a new wrap around 26 and 29 soon as well.
    However there was a good point made by one of you earlier. How do you get up on deck ? Especially in a hurry if needed for whatever reason , going through a hatch could become a pain . What to do??

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    Quote Originally Posted by John. View Post
    twin motors and canopies are two top priorities. big motors are very cool and all and i agree that the new drive looks bitchin', however we want to go with something totally different this time and build a boat with twin outboards. higher efficiency and twin motor reliability.

    I'd like to still do 100mph, or at least very close to it. From what I understand, the F29 with twin 300xs should do right at 100mph. Can anybody verify this?

    We're unsure of the new 28 speedster Daytona. The wraparound windshield looks very cool. I just don't see an easy way to get on the deck of the boat. E-Ticket is also a very cool boat, however it has zero freeboard and you're sitting right on the floor. We would like to sit a little higher like in the F29 and be able to access a cabin area. I did not know about the new Howard cat, so I'll look into that one a little. We're not going to buy another Ultra.

    My folks have an F-29 Open Bow Crawl Thru with twin 300X's. It's a sweet, turnkey, reliable 100mph boat. You're not going to have neck snapping acceleration but it runs real well up to 100. Their setup has no porpoise, etc. and they have had approx. 300+ hours of worry free time on the boat. Hope this helps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwinWhackers View Post
    My folks have an F-29 Open Bow Crawl Thru with twin 300X's. It's a sweet, turnkey, reliable 100mph boat. You're not going to have neck snapping acceleration but it runs real well up to 100. Their setup has no porpoise, etc. and they have had approx. 300+ hours of worry free time on the boat. Hope this helps!


    I agree! your dads 29 is a nice set up. GrayGooses's is awesome as well. BUT for what it would cost to replace one now new, you'd realy have to think twice. Did your dad deside to keep the 29, havent seen it advertised forsale for awhile? For what it was advertised for last I saw, it would be a steal these days.
    How about you, what are you looking at after the Mach22 sells?
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    [QUOTE=Bullhead Bully;59792]
    Quote Originally Posted by TOBTEK View Post
    However there was a good point made by one of you earlier. How do you get up on deck ? Especially in a hurry if needed for whatever reason , going through a hatch could become a pain . What to do??



    Getting up over the windscreen to the bow is the only kink I can see as well. Looking through the single piece of lexan appears to be worth this issue since everyone is moving in that direction.
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