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    Watching MSMBC this evening on companies taking action on smoking by their employees got me thinking.Although I stopped 35 years ago I still think about it,as a very addictive habit.The cost of the product,insurance along with the difficulty of where you can even smoke sure seems to be a difficult hurdle to continue to fight. I am one who feels if do not have to breathe second hand smoke (makes me want to smoke again) I feel should be able to especially outside. I have read some very outrageous proposals to outlaw smoking outside in some States. I'm confused these same states love the tax money

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    I'm not a smoker. Came from a family of smokers. My pops smoked a lot inside the house, inside the cabin of the boat, and in the garage. I guess he smoked anywhere and everywhere, and a lot. I was never harmed by it. My mom is 85 and other than diabetes, she has no ill affects from it. Unfortunately he died of lung cancer. I can understand not smoking in an office building, restaurant, hotel, etc., but outside and bars shouldn't be banned. I have never gone to a bar for my health and there's plenty of outside for everyone. If you want to wreck your health, it's your life, the government needs to stay out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    I'm not a smoker. Came from a family of smokers. My pops smoked a lot inside the house, inside the cabin of the boat, and in the garage. I guess he smoked anywhere and everywhere, and a lot. I was never harmed by it. My mom is 85 and other than diabetes, she has no ill affects from it. Unfortunately he died of lung cancer. I can understand not smoking in an office building, restaurant, hotel, etc., but outside and bars shouldn't be banned. I have never gone to a bar for my health and there's plenty of outside for everyone. If you want to wreck your health, it's your life, the government needs to stay out.
    They want it both ways,collect the revenue and please the anti-smoking pundits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet-Daytona View Post
    They want it both ways,collect the revenue and please the anti-smoking pundits.
    That's politics, please whomever is going to help them get re-elected or provide tax base so that they can send money to people that can help them get re-elected.

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    I know that Michigan banned smoking in bars there, I haven't been up there since they did it but I know a couple of people that own bars there and they said that business is down about 25%. If you go to the Indian casino you can smoke in there I was told.

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    "Cut off your nose to spite your face" comes to mind. I quit several years ago. I don't care for it when I eat. Hell I didn't smoke in restaurants back when you could and when I did. In a bar or casino, who cares. I just have to take a shower and change cloths to get rid of the stink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    I'm not a smoker. Came from a family of smokers. My pops smoked a lot inside the house, inside the cabin of the boat, and in the garage. I guess he smoked anywhere and everywhere, and a lot. I was never harmed by it. My mom is 85 and other than diabetes, she has no ill affects from it. Unfortunately he died of lung cancer. I can understand not smoking in an office building, restaurant, hotel, etc., but outside and bars shouldn't be banned. I have never gone to a bar for my health and there's plenty of outside for everyone. If you want to wreck your health, it's your life, the government needs to stay out.
    Up till about a month ago I hadn't been in a bar in Utah for a couple years. I went to one in Ogden, one I used to go to about every other week, in February. It was so nice not having the smoking inside of the bar. I can't explain how nice it was for a non-smoker. For my bud on the other had, he had to go smoke by himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    If you want to wreck your health, it's your life, the government needs to stay out.
    I too come from a family of heavy smokers and because of that, I haven't ever made a habit of smoking myself. With that said.....I disagree with your statement above because it's the government (you and I in our property and other taxes) who usually pick up the tab for those smokers smoking habit. Most educated people do not smoke as they know the downfalls associated with that habit......however it's the lower income people who are the majority of those that do smoke. Typically with low income families, they do not carry health insurance......so; we pick up the tab for the illness brought upon them by smoking.

    My mom smoked for 45 years and now has severe COPD; she's only 68 and can hardly move without running out of breath and needing her Oxygen machine. The sad part about it is that she could have easily prevented this disease by not smoking. You and I are picking up the tab for her illness because she is on Medicare.

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    My employer went tobacco free 3 years ago and I was able to manage to go cold turkey and haven’t smoked since. I do frequent the local watering holes and since they too went smoke free around the same time it made it easier for me not to smoke. I think there should be no reason people shouldn’t be able to go outside and have a cigarette if they want. But then again, have you ever noticed the stench at doorways into some stores where people stand outside and smoke. I smoked for 25 years but I can’t stand the smell of a smoldering cigarette butt. Maybe a compromise and set a limit around door openings to stores, not bars but stores where the public has to walk.

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    I just quit smoking 3 months ago. I didn't smoke in bars, restaraunts or in my home. I have my own health care policy.
    Every smoker knows they should stop but it's a powerful drug. What gets me is how expensive the stop smoking aids are. Patches are $38 plus tax for 14 generic patches. The Nicoderm are even more. Chantrix(sp) is by prescription and expensive. In the long run it will be cheaper to quit if you smoke 2-3 packs a day but geeez, how about making it available for free or at a discounted rate for those who are willing to stop.

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