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    Quote Originally Posted by dicudmore View Post
    Kap I would put the throttles in the center standard CAT style. It will take you about 4.5 seconds to get accustomed to throttling left handed. Even jumping back and forth from that to say your deck with right hand throttle takes less than a second to get acclimated to. For me, even if available the foot throttle would NOT be an option.
    Hey dicudmore:

    It seems that is were the throttles/shifters will end up. As for the foot throttle I love them Why! because I like both hands on the wheel.

    Seems the center is where they will end up. If anything I agree with you it will take little if any time to get accustomed to the left hand throttles. I hate change...thus I think mentally I was looking for a way to justify the right side controls.

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    So KAP'y since your asking for ideals & help on this new boat project of yours, are you going to stop the its top secret BS and tell us about your soon to be new boat? If not were all going to pretend we didn't see this thread and give you no advise

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    Things I find useful in cats:
    1. Remote stereo control on steering wheel.
    2. Chartplotter GPS
    3. Analog GPS
    4. Additional analog GPS mounted in rear of front seats or center console for viewing by backseat passengers.
    5. Front view and Rearview cameras with display mounted on center dash - would be nice to have video/audio RCA outs from these cameras to be able to digitally record avi's and post poker run videos and/or cruises down the channel, or sand bar to enjoy while you're east coast friends are thawing out.
    6. Kickin' sub woofers in rear seat cabinets
    7. Indirect lighting in strategic locations (under dash, in gunhwale holders, cup holders, etc..)
    8. Throttles on my left (center) in case I want assistance and for resell.
    9. Dash rigged to accept steering wheel on either side (ie left or right).
    10. Drains in floors.
    11. Drains in cup holders
    12. Pay special attention to your glass (ie. Canopies, or windshields). All glass is not created equal. Spend a little extra on the glass - preview it before it is installed. Some stock canopies can give the fisheye limited visibility challenge which is no fun and dangerous.
    13. Unified trim control on throttles.
    14. Individual trimp contrls on dash.
    15. Heads up Analog trim indicators
    16. Tunnel tab control on dash.
    17. Fat bonus check to pay for the above upgrades.

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    KAP Our friend CD asked me to give you my opinion on offshore tunnel boats throttle position. In my hay day testing boats for the magazine I would test over 150 boats a year.
    As the boat grew in size so did the performance. The big tunnel boats seemed to be the HOT ROD of choice.
    For my driving style and control comfort I like port side steering with the controls in the center between the two front seats. I like the controls to be up high enough that I’m not leaning down to manipulate the controls. With the added height of the controls my arm does not seen to get as tired over long runs.
    One thing I do like is the shifter placement with the shifter handle installed one on each side of the throttles. This is very comfortable for me and I can put one hand on each shifter and control the boat without the need of the steering wheel. I am able to move the throttles with little effort and have great boat control.
    One other thing I like is the outdrive trim switch placement. Switch placement on the port side of the port throttle feels best to me. Having one switch work both drives and the second switch moving only one drive for trim correction works well and is easy to operate. Almost all the boat have a second set of trim switches on the dash but I hate to take my hands off the steering wheel or throttles to trim adjustments from the dash.
    KAP I hope this helps you in some small way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Mexico Bullet View Post
    So KAP'y since your asking for ideals & help on this new boat project of yours, are you going to stop the its top secret BS and tell us about your soon to be new boat? If not were all going to pretend we didn't see this thread and give you no advise
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    NMB aka David C. it is a valid question you pose but the school of thought is to keep quiet until such time as your qualified and have the ability, skill and knowledge to answer questions by potential customers/consumers on a product line.

    Thus, I will rely on this business plan and hope my friends such as yourself allow me some liberty to have my "A" game when I do the reveal. Now NMB you know me by now and it will be worth the wait and exceed all your expectations and mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrenaline Junkie View Post
    Things I find useful in cats:
    1. Remote stereo control on steering wheel.
    2. Chartplotter GPS
    3. Analog GPS
    4. Additional analog GPS mounted in rear of front seats or center console for viewing by backseat passengers.
    5. Front view and Rearview cameras with display mounted on center dash - would be nice to have video/audio RCA outs from these cameras to be able to digitally record avi's and post poker run videos and/or cruises down the channel, or sand bar to enjoy while you're east coast friends are thawing out.
    6. Kickin' sub woofers in rear seat cabinets
    7. Indirect lighting in strategic locations (under dash, in gunhwale holders, cup holders, etc..)
    8. Throttles on my left (center) in case I want assistance and for resell.
    9. Dash rigged to accept steering wheel on either side (ie left or right).
    10. Drains in floors.
    11. Drains in cup holders
    12. Pay special attention to your glass (ie. Canopies, or windshields). All glass is not created equal. Spend a little extra on the glass - preview it before it is installed. Some stock canopies can give the fisheye limited visibility challenge which is no fun and dangerous.
    13. Unified trim control on throttles.
    14. Individual trimp contrls on dash.
    15. Heads up Analog trim indicators
    16. Tunnel tab control on dash.
    17. Fat bonus check to pay for the above upgrades.
    .

    Hey AJ:

    I do not know you.... but your post is awesome don't be surprised if you get a PM from me. We will talk here real soon seriously especially about the camera stuff and a few others on your list real good stuff to say the least.

    KAP

    P.S. Time to step up NMB let's see the list laughing j/kidding.
    Last edited by KAP; 03-15-2011 at 08:42 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWM View Post
    KAP Our friend CD asked me to give you my opinion on offshore tunnel boats throttle position. In my hay day testing boats for the magazine I would test over 150 boats a year.
    As the boat grew in size so did the performance. The big tunnel boats seemed to be the HOT ROD of choice.
    For my driving style and control comfort I like port side steering with the controls in the center between the two front seats. I like the controls to be up high enough that I’m not leaning down to manipulate the controls. With the added height of the controls my arm does not seen to get as tired over long runs.
    One thing I do like is the shifter placement with the shifter handle installed one on each side of the throttles. This is very comfortable for me and I can put one hand on each shifter and control the boat without the need of the steering wheel. I am able to move the throttles with little effort and have great boat control.
    One other thing I like is the outdrive trim switch placement. Switch placement on the port side of the port throttle feels best to me. Having one switch work both drives and the second switch moving only one drive for trim correction works well and is easy to operate. Almost all the boat have a second set of trim switches on the dash but I hate to take my hands off the steering wheel or throttles to trim adjustments from the dash.
    KAP I hope this helps you in some small way.

    Jim Wilkes
    Dear Mr. Wilkes:

    Let me say, it is an honor to have you respond to this thread and your insight is both valuable and sheds tremendous light on the topic for all Performance Boaters. Your resume of driving various boats is without question second to none.

    Your post addresses which change could I deal with most easily. Namely, is the throttle and trim switches in the left hand easier or is having the steering wheel on the port side less of a change.

    Background, for the most part I have always operated vessels from the starboard side be it a Knight and Carver with twin cat diesels, Super Panga's to go fast v-bottoms and deckboats. Now as for throttles my single engine experience is glavanized into my psyche and I drive on the starboard and throttle/trim with the right hand.

    Ok! now I like and will incorporate your input on having the controls up higher and no straining to reach them so the operation of the throttles is effortless and akin to an intuitive act like driving a manual transmission vehicle. Also getting in and out of the seat is HUGE for me as I am 6'2" 250 and the seats are on the floor in a true tunnel cat. Thus, we also must contend with overall ergonomics of the cockpit which incorporates throttles seating and ease of pleasure boating.

    I read and understood what your trying to tell me and I will adopt and incorporate these tips into the final product. When the light is turned on it is easier to see all the grey areas and the nuances are more visible and make better boating sense. In the end I will opt for the throttles/trim in the left hand because I really like driving on the starboard side and if by chance I have a good throttle person they will feel right at home.

    Thanks,

    KAP

    P.S. I would look forward to your input in threads to come and hopefully cross paths with you at the Los Angeles Boat Show.
    Last edited by KAP; 03-15-2011 at 09:04 PM.
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