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    Quote Originally Posted by Riomouse911 View Post
    A really dumb post. I know a lot of non "ECO FREAKS" who got them because they were sick of paying 4+ skins a gallon to POS a-holes overseas and the corporate masters who own and run this Country...the stickers were a bonus for the first hybrid buyers, most of the folks I know weren't eligible to get them because they got them after the program was done. Now they'll still not pay 3.85+ a gallon to these same a-holes overseas...
    Am I the only one that sees the contradiction in this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    I wonder if there is a correlation between a sense of humor and religion?
    That very subject may lead one to ponder. The thought crossed my mine as I made my initial post. Either way I wish him well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    Am I the only one that sees the contradiction in this?
    Damn you!!! I was trying to ignore his ignorance!!!!
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    [QUOTE=Riomouse911;1442743]A really dumb post.[QUOTE=Riomouse911;1442743] I know a lot of non "ECO FREAKS" who got them because they were sick of paying 4+ skins a gallon to POS a-holes overseas and the corporate masters who own and run this Country...[QUOTE=Riomouse911;1442743]the stickers were a bonus for the first hybrid buyers, most of the folks I know weren't eligible to get them because they got them after the program was done.
    Quote Originally Posted by Riomouse911 View Post
    Now they'll still not pay 3.85+ a gallon to these same a-holes overseas...
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    It appears you are not getting dumber by the minute because you are already as dumb as anyone can be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoatPI View Post
    I wise man once said, "all is not what it appears to be at times".

    That being said, I have two friends that ar far from ECO freaks, and they spent bucks on Honda Civic hybrids to obtain the car pool sticker. Purchased the car for that reason, motivated to spend more time with their families, rather than spending time in traffic. Both due sales calls, and have several appointments often 100 miles away from there home.

    But don't get too exicted, now 60,000 more cars are in the regular lanes.

    Why the new law authored by Senator Yee (D) San Francisco, is sort of odd is the new hybrid stickers for gas cars have specific guidelines, and as of now only one car meets those new guidelines, the 2012 Toyota Prius hybrid plug in. And it will not be produced until spring 2012. Not even the Chevy Volt meets the new guidelines to obtain the sticker.

    Other cars, electrics and NG cars can obtain the gray sticker now, but few are being sold. So no matter what it seems to be, 60,000 more cars, like it or not, are in the regular lanes.

    The owners did not create the law, some just invested in the cars to spend time with families. PI (non tree hugger)
    We have all kinds of vehicles from Prius and other Hybrids to Diesel Excursions and full size trucks and I love driving them all, that said:

    Prius bashers crack me up...they think anyone that drives a prius is a tree hugger and Eco Freak. They are severely wrong...they MUST be either "BIG BALLERS" and have unlimited budgets (which I HIGHLY doubt) OR I think they lack business smarts because there is no other explanation for the lack of their ability to run some simple numbers and see why some SMART business people drive hybrids...Keep driving those 9-12mpg gas guzzlers in town while those Prius or other hybrid drivers get 50mpg and put Thousands and THOUSANDS of dollars a year away and into other investments....Just cracks me up...and for the guys that think driving a status symbol is important...good luck to you guys....I think an early retirement, lots of paid off investments and money in the bank is a much smarter investment plan....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riomouse911 View Post
    A really dumb post. I know a lot of non "ECO FREAKS" who got them because they were sick of paying 4+ skins a gallon to POS a-holes overseas and the corporate masters who own and run this Country......
    So they went and bought a bicycle, these eco cars still need gas at 4 plus a gallon!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Riomouse911 View Post
    the stickers were a bonus for the first hybrid buyers, most of the folks I know weren't eligible to get them because they got them after the program was done. Now they'll still not pay 3.85+ a gallon to these same a-holes overseas...
    So your friends bought them in the past 3 days or was it six months and got taken by the car salesman who failed to tell them the gig was up...
    So they dont like paying a ton for gas , dont wanna sit in traffic , over paid by 10k for a bucket of a car and now they are back in traffic...Nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaPaG View Post
    We have all kinds of vehicles from Prius and other Hybrids to Diesel Excursions and full size trucks and I love driving them all, that said:

    Prius bashers crack me up...they think anyone that drives a prius is a tree hugger and Eco Freak. They are severely wrong...they MUST be either "BIG BALLERS" and have unlimited budgets (which I HIGHLY doubt) OR I think they lack business smarts because there is no other explanation for the lack of their ability to run some simple numbers and see why some SMART business people drive hybrids...Keep driving those 9-12mpg gas guzzlers in town while those Prius or other hybrid drivers get 50mpg and put Thousands and THOUSANDS of dollars a year away and into other investments....Just cracks me up...and for the guys that think driving a status symbol is important...good luck to you guys....I think an early retirement, lots of paid off investments and money in the bank is a much smarter investment plan....
    So PapaG.... Did you buy your Prius for the car pool lane or for saving on gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havasu1986 View Post
    So PapaG.... Did you buy your Prius for the car pool lane or for saving on gas.
    Hey 1986, Did I open my mouth without reading the full post? lol see that is what I get for sitting on my computer at the river instead of being on the beach....hows the weather down in Havi? (bought for savings).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaPaG View Post
    Hey 1986, Did I open my mouth without reading the full post? lol see that is what I get for sitting on my computer at the river instead of being on the beach....hows the weather down in Havi? (bought for savings).
    Im at home in Yorba Linda. I doubt theres a car pool lane for you to use from Vegas to Moabi anyway. So much for the stereotype.

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    This part.



    I know the Prius scores "good" in it's class in almost every crash test , yet I still want to be the one in the full size truck or car.
    Note the blankets in the passenger seat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaPaG View Post
    We have all kinds of vehicles from Prius and other Hybrids to Diesel Excursions and full size trucks and I love driving them all, that said:

    Prius bashers crack me up...they think anyone that drives a prius is a tree hugger and Eco Freak. They are severely wrong...they MUST be either "BIG BALLERS" and have unlimited budgets (which I HIGHLY doubt) OR I think they lack business smarts because there is no other explanation for the lack of their ability to run some simple numbers and see why some SMART business people drive hybrids...Keep driving those 9-12mpg gas guzzlers in town while those Prius or other hybrid drivers get 50mpg and put Thousands and THOUSANDS of dollars a year away and into other investments....Just cracks me up...and for the guys that think driving a status symbol is important...good luck to you guys....I think an early retirement, lots of paid off investments and money in the bank is a much smarter investment plan....
    PaPaG, good point.
    I've already posted this before, and I'll do it again...
    I commute 130+ miles a day, you can compare my numbers to yours (whatever you may drive) and btw, I'm not a tree hugger.
    2006 Honda Civic GX (CNG) $4,500 government rebate. Alterative fuel grey carpool sticker saves me approx 45min a day in my commute. Home refueling station $3,800, state and federal paid $3000 of that. Gas Co. as an incentive for purchasing the home refueling appliance changed our billing to "baseline", no more tear system for my total usage. The cost of Natural Gas over the last 4yrs at home has ranged between $0.43 and $0.88 per gallon. At public station it can vary between $1.29 and $2.59 per gallon. The car gets about 36-41mpg with an 8 gallon tank. It's a carbon less fuel so oil changes are rare. I run Mobile 1 for about 25,000 to 35,000 miles and it still comes out clean.The home refueling system runs on 220vlt and costs my about $4.00 a day in electricity. But, my new solar panels cover that and the rest of my house...off the grid it nice.
    So, in the grand scheme of things, all the time and money I save is the 1 and ONLY reason I drive a "eco" friendly car. I get 45min a day to spend with my family and all the money I save driving from Corona to Long Beach 6-7 days a week I get to put into 2 gas guzzling Halletts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    This part.



    I know the Prius scores "good" in it's class in almost every crash test , yet I still want to be the one in the full size truck or car.
    Note the blankets in the passenger seat.
    I agree with you on that. My brother was the intended victim of a scam where a car full of boarder jumpers (I can call them that because they actually were illegals) pulled out in front of him and slammed on the brakes. He was supposed to rear-end them (which he did) and they would collect $$$$from the insurance company and or him. They were in a Toyota Corolla (4 lug nuts) he was in a 99' 3/4 ton 4x4 big block suburban (8 lug nuts), guess what the outcome was. 4 illegals stuffed into a light pole, all going to the ER, one almost died on impact. Suburban got a new bumper and blinker. Luckily for my brother there was a CHP motor across the intersection that witnessed it all. No charges or lawsuit were filed against him, no too sure about the scammers.
    The officer told my brother that it's a simple law of physics, "he who has the most lug nuts, wins".
    I choose to drive my civic, my wife hauls the family around in a gas guzzling SUV.
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    I worked for honda for many years and never understood peoples reasoning for buying a prius or insight/honda hybrid. My buddy bought a prius for about 25k and loves that it gets 48mpg but why not buy a little nissan versa that gets 35mpg brand new for 10K? You will never make up that difference of 15k in mileage difference between the two. And believe me from working at honda when those damn IMA batteries go out let me tell you its about $5k for the battery and labor and most of them would pop well before 150k miles on the clock meanwhile that little nissan will still be chugging along after 200k miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GR8WHITE View Post
    I worked for honda for many years and never understood peoples reasoning for buying a prius or insight/honda hybrid. My buddy bought a prius for about 25k and loves that it gets 48mpg but why not buy a little nissan versa that gets 35mpg brand new for 10K? You will never make up that difference of 15k in mileage difference between the two. And believe me from working at honda when those damn IMA batteries go out let me tell you its about $5k for the battery and labor and most of them would pop well before 150k miles on the clock meanwhile that little nissan will still be chugging along after 200k miles.
    It's not the highway mileage most buy them for it's the city...that versa only gets 24-25 in the city...prius gets 50 easily...double so your fuel bill is 1/2...not a grocery getting saver but if you drive a crap load in the city the savings are amazing......Prius battery easily last 200k + without any repair costs as well...have seen them last as much as 350k in taxi cabs which get nothing but abused...and come on, It's a Toyota...It is going to last a long long time....

    Plus your price quote of 10k is for a striped down version...something comparable:

    Nissan Versa
    MSRP PRICING:$17,410 INVOICE PRICING:$16,818
    CarsDirect Price: $17,268
    Pricing as of 7/11/11

    MSRP *
    $16,650 - $17,286
    Transmission
    4-spd auto w/OD
    Fuel Economy City
    24.0 mpg

    Fuel Economy Hwy
    32.0 mpg


    Big difference if you do the math...
    Last edited by PaPaG; 07-11-2011 at 01:28 PM.

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