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    These corporate fat cats should be ashamed of themselves. Union Facts: AFL-CIO Leaders, Employees, and Salaries
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    You see how many vice-presidents they have? Even though some don't get paid by the union, they do get extra perks like trips for organizing and meetings. I know of a few union officials that went to a contract negotiation meeting on the union's dime. They took their families on the way. Made three stops all on the union's dime. Took them a week to drive 400 miles. Of course everywhere they stopped on the way for a rest stop had golf courses. $5000 to drive there and back as well as being paid for being on union business instead of on the job. This didn't include the costs for the stay during the negotiations or the dinners for the officials and their families. All paid for by the rank and file that make 10%.

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    Seems like chicken scratch compared to the raping most mega corporate CEOs and Upper management does to the stockholders, employees, and customers. Oh almost forgot, and the taxpayers ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Seems like chicken scratch compared to the raping most mega corporate CEOs and Upper management does to the stockholders, employees, and customers. Oh almost forgot, and the taxpayers ...

    Blah blah blah.

    There is no "levels" of wrong...is there?
    Or I guess there is when you are being paid by both side, right?

    Your' union pension, funded by taxpayers = hypocrite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    You see how many vice-presidents they have? Even though some don't get paid by the union, they do get extra perks like trips for organizing and meetings. I know of a few union officials that went to a contract negotiation meeting on the union's dime. They took their families on the way. Made three stops all on the union's dime. Took them a week to drive 400 miles. Of course everywhere they stopped on the way for a rest stop had golf courses. $5000 to drive there and back as well as being paid for being on union business instead of on the job. This didn't include the costs for the stay during the negotiations or the dinners for the officials and their families. All paid for by the rank and file that make 10%.
    Sounds like some of our government employees!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    Blah blah blah.

    There is no "levels" of wrong...is there?
    Or I guess there is when you are being paid by both side, right?

    Your' union pension, funded by taxpayers = hypocrite.

    You are a bitter little man today! Why? Shit even you make more money than those Union CEOs!!

    My state pension plan was in place when I was hired in 1973....Why am I a hypocrite for serving my fellow citizens honorably all those years and retiring per the retirement plan ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Seems like chicken scratch compared to the raping most mega corporate CEOs and Upper management does to the stockholders, employees, and customers. Oh almost forgot, and the taxpayers ...
    Hmmph. I find it appalling.

    Corporate greed is corporate greed. Im pretty confident that after all the benefits and "perks" (hidden and visible) are accounted for it gets pretty high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    You are a bitter little man today! Why? Shit even you make more money than those Union CEOs!!

    My state pension plan was in place when I was hired in 1973....Why am I a hypocrite for serving my fellow citizens honorably all those years and retiring per the retirement plan ?
    Because you judge the private sector as all being greedy self serving whatevercrats.

    As far as "making" money, yeah I work for mine.
    Union CEO's simply collect it.

    Corporate CEO's are generally held far more accountable than any union boss also. (Although corporate CEO's can certainly rob the company just as fast and easy)
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    zombie and his 4 milion co workers fleece the American tax payers for decades. Of course he calls the union abuses chicken scratch. He's seen the biggest rip off in the country, first hand up close and PERSONAL



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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Seems like chicken scratch compared to the raping most mega corporate CEOs and Upper management does to the stockholders, employees, and customers. Oh almost forgot, and the taxpayers ...


    if Union members are ok with the pay-scale and responsibilities of their management team- then who am I to question it.

    It's their/ your money.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Dave View Post
    if Union members are ok with the pay-scale and responsibilities of their management team- then who am I to question it.

    It's their/ your money.



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    UD, that just about as stupid as sayin if YOU are OK with the pay scales and responsibilites fo your mayor, city supervisors, governor, state senators, US sentors, and congressmen, VP and POUTS who is it for ME to bitch.

    Those asswipes are costing the taxpayers billions. Why do you think went after them. You don't think he knew the money those thiefs cost the taxpayer. You like supporting the lifestyle of these pricks, thats fine. I rather toss their asses to the streets.



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    Looks to me like the writing is on the wall for those guys.


    I care greatly about taxpayers being held hostage but simply choose to stick to the thread title vs go into private vs public for the 10Kth time.


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    Last edited by Uncle Dave; 06-07-2012 at 03:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Dave View Post
    if Union members are ok with the pay-scale and responsibilities of their management team- then who am I to question it.

    It's their/ your money.



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    This is a fair point - as long as the union membership/dues is voluntary and not comprised of govt workers (paid by taxes.)

    We use the same defense for corp CEOs and their fat paychecks; if the stockholders are letting it happen, it's not my concern.
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    I'm still chuckling at being "poo-pooed" for straying off topic. Awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBjet View Post
    This is a fair point - as long as the union membership/dues is voluntary and not comprised of govt workers (paid by taxes.)

    We use the same defense for corp CEOs and their fat paychecks; if the stockholders are letting it happen, it's not my concern.

    1st point -

    If held in the scope of just that - agreed. GN's point is also right when you consider the greater macro effects but I was trying to stick to the post. (I also dont dont feel Im particularly stupid at least not yet)

    2nd point

    CEO pay is determined by the board - the stockholders get to vote with their money. I've pulled out of certain stocks over executive compensation. (Tyco - before Dennis fell)


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    Last edited by Uncle Dave; 06-07-2012 at 03:22 PM.

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