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    "Why Obama Is 'President O.O.T.'"

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    6/10/2012

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    The rage of the heat blowing in the direction of the White House this past Friday was so intense that in less than three hours from saying what has to be the most universally disconnected assertion in Presidential history President Obama was back at the microphone lapping up what he said like a dog at his own vomit.

    He had no choice.

    Never in the course of economic stagnation has a less-feeling, more callous, completely out-of-touch sentence been uttered.

    "The private sector is doing fine."

    In all of the debates that can be had over policy direction, administration priorities, whether or not the free market should be allowed to fail (and hence reinvent itself), or not (and hence keep the drag of economic growth going) one thing was known by both sides in the partisan ranks--the private sector is not fine.

    America currently has the lowest participation in the employment pool of workers (by percentage) in over thirty years. Long after the 99 weeks of unemployment checks stopped coming, people have given up. The job market has dried up. Innovation has died a painful assassination, the bullet being fired into the head, by the administration's own war on the small business man or woman.

    It is painful. It is humiliating. It is gut wrenching. In short it is anything but "fine."

    If we were looking at the same employment pool (numbers) as when President Obama came into office in 2009, our actual unemployment number (those who are out of work but desire it desperately) is closer to 14%, and our underemployment (families who are working has hard as they can but can't pay for their basic needs) is closer to 25%.

    There is legitimate discussion to be had about solutions to these dismaying numbers. There are genuine debates that can be had on college campuses this early fall about which direction would solve the problems. But no one can dispute that the private sector (the overwhelming engine of economic activity) is anything close to fine.

    What was almost as equally disturbing the in the soundbite taken from President Obama's answer was the portion following the the "fine" comment.

    He proceeded: "Where we’re seeing weaknesses in our economy have to do with state and local government. Often times cuts initiated by, you know, Governors or mayors who are not getting the kind of help that they have in the past from the federal government and who don’t have the same kind of flexibility as the federal government in dealing with fewer revenues coming in."

    Here we see revealed an equally inane view of economic need, growth, development and solution.

    *snip*

    His attempt to back pedal later on Friday was all spin to save face, and to not take a blow in this tightening election cycle in which normally blue states like Wisconsin, Michigan, North Carolina, and Colorado--maybe even California are all coming into play for the GOP. But don't be confused--he believes he created jobs, he's done his part, and he has a tee time at 4pm.

    Perhaps the most "out-of-touch" assertion ever issued by a sitting President, has also sealed--at least for Obama--the reality, that he is also... finally... for the good of America...

    Out-of-time.



    Still, his minions will vote for his pathetic ass.
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    Liberals just chose to ignore relevant information about the world they live in, and then call themselves sophisticated for having chosen to be more stupid than God made them.

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    Just an unbiased street level observation: Despite all the PRF rightie doom and gloom about our economy it seems like everything is fairly OK.....I mean the mega gas stations with 30 pumps are full an they are building more , restaurants are busy, automotive part places always have customers, remodeling of older business malls is going on, new car and trucks are all over place, new homes are being built, gun stores are packed with customers. Grocery stores are full of people and products, conversations at the grocery checkout lines are not about panic. At the gym I go to I never hear discussions about doom and gloom. Obviously the glory days of the intentionally inflated economic bubble are over and so therefore many excessive things have ratcheted back.
    I see everyday life as pretty normal and similar to how it was before the big inflated bubble. Seriously, look around! American lifestyles are overall pretty much intact! Things are in fact pretty darn good considering how screwed up things were in the past five years.......
    I know there are stories about uncle Bob can't find a job for two years and Millies Cookie Emporium went out of business , etc etc, I know it is not perfect but it is no where in the toilet or strictly Obama's fault...
    Just recently there was a very vigorous PRF debate was about expensive Porche, Corvette, Ferrari cars. Both liberal and conservative PRFers seems very knowledgeabe and passionate about this subject..... Seems to me an indication that every one here is doing well enough to worry about expensive cars and not worrying so much about putting tacos on the table. Most PRFers are rolling through this "horrible " time high and dry. We still have our hot boats, sand cars, motorcycles, two homes, vacations, race teams , expensive cars, trophy wives, etc etc.

    Maybe I should find a Poor People Forum to see where the doom and gloom is really going on?
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    I'm just wondering how many people actually watched Obama's speech in its entirety to know what he really said? Seems it doesn't take much to get the anti-Obama crowd all worked up and the GOP propegandists are excellent at pulling the strings necessary to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    I'm just wondering how many people actually watched Obama's speech in its entirety to know what he really said? Seems it doesn't take much to get the anti-Obama crowd all worked up and the GOP propegandists are excellent at pulling the strings necessary to do this.
    I can not watch more than a few minutes of him. I have tried, honestly tried, but simply can not do it.

    The reason is his arrogant and smug demeanor, coupled with out right lies.
    I find him disgusting and unwatchable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    I can not watch more than a few minutes of him. I have tried, honestly tried, but simply can not do it.

    The reason is his arrogant and smug demeanor, coupled with out right lies.
    I find him disgusting and unwatchable.
    So then you will base your opinion about what Obama said on something similar to what is written in the OP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    So then you will base your opinion about what Obama said on something similar to what is written in the OP?
    Not in particular.

    I base my opinions more on what I conclude from data and fact than what some one else says, including O, and the author of the text in the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    Not in particular.

    I base my opinions more on what I conclude from data and fact than what some one else says, including O, and the author of the text in the OP.
    So then you completely disregard anyone making a big deal about Obama saying "the private sector is doing fine" because it is possible that anyone making a big deal out of this could be taking the statement out of context and making a mountain out of a mole hill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    So then you completely disregard anyone making a big deal about Obama saying "the private sector is doing fine" because it is possible that anyone making a big deal out of this could be taking the statement out of context and making a mountain out of a mole hill?
    That is not what I said. Nice try.

    I did see him say that, as well as his follow up assertion that the Public sector needs ramped up.

    At that point I concluded on My own that he is completely, totally, 100% out of his mind, or more accurately completely out of touch with the actual State of the Union.
    The fact that others conclude the same does not mean they influence my conclusion, only that our conclusions are in agreement.

    I also would not say they are making a "Mountain out of a Molehill".
    I would say they are making an accurate observation.

    You can try every angle to minimize the statement, and try to twist it in context, but it still stands.
    He is either the biggest fool in this Country (discounting the fools who follow him, of course), or the greatest internal enemy we have seen as a Nation.
    (Again, discounting his followers, of course)

    I started a thread on this before this one, from my own conclusions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    That is not what I said. Nice try.

    I did see him say that, as well as his follow up dissertation that the Public sector needs ramped up.
    So you did watch the whole speech? It was only about seven minutes long.
    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    At that point I concluded on My own that he is completely, totally, 100% out of his mind, or more accurately completely out of touch with the actual State of the Union.
    The fact that others conclude the same does not mean they influence my conclusion, only that our conclusions are in agreement.
    Really, because I remember him saying that the private sector is adding jobs, with the exception of a few industries, construction being one of them, but they would like for the private sector to add more jobs and he called on Congress to help make that happen. He also said the public sector was losing jobs, which is what righties want, isn't it? That is what the employment data shows, so how is that out of touch with the actual state of the union?
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    I also would not say they are making a "Mountain out of a Molehill".
    I would say they are making an accurate observation.
    Really?
    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    You can try every angle to minimize the statement, and try to twist it in context, but it still stands.
    He is either the biggest fool in this Country (discounting the fools who follow him, of course), or the greatest internal enemy we have seen as a Nation.
    (Again, discounting his followers, of course)
    Really? Would you say your opinion is subjective or objective?

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    Is that really what you heard?
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    For all the flip-flop criers out there, here's one he performed in a twenty four hour period. Exactly opposite statements.
    He's backpedaling so fast, it's hard to tell which will set his pants on fire first - his lying or his backpedaling. Either way he made a complete fool of himself by making a clear statement to the world then contradicting himself within hours by stating exactly the opposite.

    He's running out of confidence, story lines, success statements, and twisted statistics as he desperately works to escape his record in office which is getting harder to escape every day. He touts all the jobs he's created without mention of the larger number he's killed. The speaks about productivity in American business without mention of all he's chased off-shore or out of business altogether. He's especially proud of the growth of government without seeing that this is precisely the problem at hand. When he speaks of increases in wages, he leaves out the fact that wages are down everywhere but in his government sector which is bleeding America dry. He's so very proud of his stimulus when it has produced nothing but campaign contribution paybacks that become more fully exposed every day. He's actually trying to escape his very own words:


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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    Is that really what you heard?
    So your not going to answer any of my questions but then you will ask me a question. It helps if you watch the speech if you want to know what he said. If you don't want to know what he said, don't watch the speech, that's OK. But when you don't watch the speech, and you still form an opinion about what he said during the speech, well let's just say yoiu come off as a little uninformed when you try to discuss it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    So your not going to answer any of my questions but then you will ask me a question. It helps if you watch the speech if you want to know what he said. If you don't want to know what he said, don't watch the speech, that's OK. But when you don't watch the speech, and you still form an opinion about what he said during the speech, well let's just say yoiu come off as a little uninformed when you try to discuss it.
    I answer a lot of your questions, but when you are simply leading with them, I will generally ignore them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    I answer a lot of your questions, but when you are simply leading with them, I will generally ignore them.
    You will ignore them when they are about you commenting on a speech you never watched?
    PS I posted in the dyno section today. Just thought you might want to know.
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