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    Default Audit the IRS? "Yes we Can" ROTFLMAO

    And it's about time, Seems like there has been about the biggest tax loophole in the known free world there for the taking.....Although it must not have been a very complete audit...

    There is another question that i have wanted to know the answer to for a long time.
    Where does the money from SS number fraud end up at? Those funds deducted from employees who submit a stolen or fictitious SS number to their employer. IRS must know that every dollar they receive with a SS number that has either never been assigned or is already in use by someone and has been for any length of time are funds that they know can never be claimed. I don't think IRS makes much of a fuss about the illegal use of SS numbers. IRS is the only gnvt. agency with access to the information and i have never heard of the IRS police making any
    job site visits asking any embarrassing questions....

    And i bet scoring an ITIN would be a slick way to generate bogus ID for someone who might have a need to use a different name...ie criminal on the run, dead beat dads....looks like it might even be a way around e-verify.
    I can't help but wonder how far knowledge of this fraud goes up the IRS food chain.

    “It’s pure negligence by management and they’ve been trying to keep it quiet,” Antelis said. “There is a criminal element that is defrauding the U.S. government by filing mountains and mountains of these fraudulent applications. We see them in piles in bulk every day that are obviously not legitimate documents and not legitimate tax returns and not legitimate wages … and [IRS managers] don’t want to deal with it. That’s where all the fraud is. The fraud is in the fake notary stamps and fake documents which we’ve been accepting.”


    And finally, the IRS gets audited!
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    Default Horror stories...

    There are little known horror stories about honest, hard working American citizens being taken to task by the IRS over "unreported" income... These people had their SS numbers stolen, and someone else earned taxable income claiming 10 dependents for a few years. Along comes an audit, and BOOM, the IRS attacks them and takes everything they own.... There was a guy in Louisiana that had fought the IRS for years and was losing it all. He had proven he was nowhere near where the money was earned, but the IRS has tunnel vision, and refused to accept the proof..... Not sure how it turned out, but it sure as hell ruined his life...
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    Yep sir....I have read about that crap...seems like IRS gets stuck on stupid.....probably because they aren't held accountable by anyone.

    They hold probably more information about people than any other government agency...It would take nothing but a decent software program to locate all those who play SS number games....Other than someone who steals a SS number from a child it is the person who has used the number the longest is the rightful owner and the person who uses that number....even with a different name is the one who needs to be locked up....And simple logic...or profiling.. would tell any investigator that the person that has poor command of the english language or using a name that doesn't match that number
    is the one who needs to see a judge...Ever tried to get info from IRS? I tried....filled out the form....they kicked it back because i put ca. for place of birth instead on anaheim ca......so evidently they can and do have access to the information on my original application from 1968....i still have my original SS card.....it's so old the last time i used it the shop i was working for wouldn't accept it.....And i happen to know someone who used a made up name/ss number for employment for years.....never had an issue with IRS.....
    One thing i have noticed....even the potus can't game the IRS....
    If he could the SS number he claims wouldn't have a state of origin that he has never lived....and to the best of my knowledge
    the numbers that indicate state are plenty finite. Apply for a number, use a return address for another state won't fly.
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    education, free food, free housing, free clothing, free
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    You guys were expecting something different from our hired federal LEOs? You think the IRS along with the justice department are going to after fraudulent SS number users? And prosecute? You made the mistake that they care? Are you fucking nuts?
    have you looked at the concern and the intelligence of the one person here that claims to have been a Federal LEO. You think that useless POS is unique in the justice department? He is MORE than typical. The LEOs of this country are like the bitches behind the counter at the DMV. Now cncerns for the people in line, no concern for the security of their jobs. No concern for shit except that the check comes regularly.



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    The IRS is nothing more than a collection agency and has zero legal authority what so ever. They survive on fear and people's ignorance of the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelcomp View Post
    The IRS is nothing more than a collection agency and has zero legal authority what so ever. They survive on fear and people's ignorance of the law.
    Except for guilty until proven innocent.They can lock the doors of your business and freeze your bank accounts and sit back and say
    'lets see if he can get out of that'. Access to records? How much money do they have stashed? Notice that the audit is not a complete audit....it only addresses those who file with ITIN number and they spent an entire year just doing that..IRS= government at work..the model for inefficiently/waste/fraud/ lack of accountability.
    "A liberal paradise would be a place where everybody has
    guaranteed employment, free comprehensive healthcare, free
    education, free food, free housing, free clothing, free
    utilities, and only law enforcement has guns. And believe it or
    not, such a place does, indeed, exist: It's called prison."

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio
    Maricopa County Sheriff's Office

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoldHondaBoughtHondo View Post
    Except for guilty until proven innocent.They can lock the doors of your business and freeze your bank accounts and sit back and say
    'lets see if he can get out of that'. Access to records? How much money do they have stashed? Notice that the audit is not a complete audit....it only addresses those who file with ITIN number and they spent an entire year just doing that..IRS= government at work..the model for inefficiently/waste/fraud/ lack of accountability.
    Not legally they can't. They don't have the authority. They've been "allowed" to for too long, and it's like that lie that becomes truth after it's repeated enough times. If you don't know the law, you're at their mercy and you have no defense against them, because they work way outside the law. If you know the law, it's an entirely different story, but even then, no guarantee. You certainly can't fight them in court, but there are ways.
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    Well, i almost stand corrected...it seems as though somebody has
    a handle on SS numbers.....and they are making good use of their connections:

    "If Barack Obama has an immediate eligibility problem, it is more likely to derive from the Social Security Number he has been using for the last 25 years than from his birth certificate.

    Ohio private investigator Susan Daniels has seen to that. On Monday, July 2, she filed suit in Geauga County (Ohio) Common Pleas Court demanding that Jon Husted, Ohio secretary of state, remove Obama’s name from the ballot until Obama can prove the validity of his Social Security Number.



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    ocial Security Numbers for numerous other clients, has done her homework. In her filing, she thoroughly documents her contention “that Barack Obama has repeatedly, consistently, and with intent misrepresented himself by using a fraudulently obtained Social Security Number.”

    To acquire appropriate standing in court, Daniels has gone to the trouble of establishing herself as a valid write-in candidate for president. Before she is through, this 70-something mother of seven, who has been a licensed Ohio PI since 1995, may cause Obama more trouble than the Romney campaign.
    Daniels started her investigation in August 2009. Given her profession, she has been able to access a variety of proprietary databases. What she learned without much trouble is that Obama has been using a Social Security Number with the prefix “042″ since 1986.
    As she discovered, the “042″ number is reserved for the exclusive use of individuals who register in Connecticut. When she ran 10 sequential numbers before and after Obama’s, all returned with the documentation “issued 1977-1979 in CT.”
    When Daniels ran the numbers immediately flanking Obama’s, she came to the firm conviction that Obama’s number was issued in March 1977 in Connecticut.
    By all accounts, as Daniels thoroughly documents, Obama was then a 15-year-old living in Hawaii. There is no record of him even visiting Connecticut in or near this time frame.
    To have gotten a Social Security card at this time Obama would have had to show up for a “mandatory in-person interview.” This could not have taken place in Connecticut. Obama’s sister, Maya, by contrast, uses a number appropriate for a Hawaiian resident.
    Daniels checked other databases as well to validate her findings, including the Massachusetts Department of Motor Vehicles and the IRS. Yes, Obama used the 042 number to get a driver’s license when at Harvard and as recently as on his 2009 income tax return.
    In her research, Daniels kept coming across what she calls a “marked anomaly,” one she had never seen before – multiple birthdates listed for the same person. The 08/04/1961 and 04/08/1961 variation made sense, but the frequent appearance of the year “1890″ did not.
    The ample evidence Daniels gathered led her to believe that the 042 number Obama has been using “had previously been issued to another person,” one who lived in Connecticut between 1977 and 1979 and who was born in 1890.
    This assertion can be verified. By law, the Social Security Administration will have kept on microfilm a copy of the original SS-5 application attached to a particular Social Security Number. Daniels, however, does not have access to that microfilm.


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    I wonder if barry..or whateverthefukhisnameis can EO his way out of this one, or the next one or the other one.....seems like when
    you screw up enough on the job your employers will do whatever
    necessary to terminate your employment....
    I'm thinking the imported impostor knew he was on shaky ground right out of the box but in his simple mind he thought that he was
    going to do his new job so well that nobody would pay much attention to his total lack of legitimacy....might as well add that thought to his long list of mistakes.....he is all but done.."we the
    people' are just waiting for the little red button to pop out....
    "A liberal paradise would be a place where everybody has
    guaranteed employment, free comprehensive healthcare, free
    education, free food, free housing, free clothing, free
    utilities, and only law enforcement has guns. And believe it or
    not, such a place does, indeed, exist: It's called prison."

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio
    Maricopa County Sheriff's Office

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