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    Default Looks like the LDS church must know where Obama was born......

    Well? Isn't this interesting ! Five volumns of Obama's family history ?? Seems if they knew he was born in Kenya wouldn't they say something to help their boy Mittens ?

    LDS Church News - Obama family history presented to U.S. chief

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    Z, I'm pretty sure family trees are leaning more to the WHO, vs the where..... Example: It wouldn't be necessary to list that Johm McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone, only that he had a mother, and a father, and I'm pretty sure they were MARRIED to each other long before his birth.... Oh yeah, I think the dims needed proof in 08.... BUT, no one ever asked obama for proof in 08 ASSUMING he was OK because he was already a Senator....News flash...You don't need to be a Natural Born citizen to be a Senator, something that was mentioned when he ran for the Senate.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moneypit View Post
    Z, I'm pretty sure family trees are leaning more to the WHO, vs the where..... Example: It wouldn't be necessary to list that Johm McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone, only that he had a mother, and a father, and I'm pretty sure they were MARRIED to each other long before his birth.... Oh yeah, I think the dims needed proof in 08.... BUT, no one ever asked obama for proof in 08 ASSUMING he was OK because he was already a Senator....News flash...You don't need to be a Natural Born citizen to be a Senator, something that was mentioned when he ran for the Senate.....
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    Ray, the LDS church is extremely thorough in its genealogical research. I am LDS and my family tree not only states whom my ancestors are but where they were born as well. It even lists where they were burried. If Obama was Kenyan, the LDS church would of discovered it. Just another nail in the coffin for the conspiracy nuts.
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    Bullshit. The LDS is not the genealogy police. They simply keep records of the imformation they recieve. They don't do indepth research, and investigations. I know. I been there. And what they have on me and a couple relatives is wrong.
    They DO NOT have correct or complete info on most adoptions, as well as other conditions.
    Its one of the bitches I have with this prick in office. I went thru hell getting a certified copy of my birth certificate so I could collect my pension. I didn't need the damn thing to join the union or invest thousands with them. Only to get it back. I will end up going thru the same bullshit with the federal government for my SS too. Way more than this assbastard that is POTUS ever will. Its bullshit of the highest order in my book. The whole asinine bullshit of him sealing his records from the public, while i have to go thru hell to get what is RIGHTFULLY mine, is complete bullshit. He is piece iof shit in my book, and I would LOVE for somebody to explain to me why he is so fucking superior to me that he can become POTUS with no historical records, no BC, and I can't even collect my fucking SS.

    The records at LDS are great. But not infallible by any stretch.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Bullshit. The LDS is not the genealogy police. They simply keep records of the imformation they recieve. They don't do indepth research, and investigations. I know. I been there. And what they have on me and a couple relatives is wrong.
    They DO NOT have correct or complete info on most adoptions, as well as other conditions.
    Its one of the bitches I have with this prick in office. I went thru hell getting a certified copy of my birth certificate so I could collect my pension. I didn't need the damn thing to join the union or invest thousands with them. Only to get it back. I will end up going thru the same bullshit with the federal government for my SS too. Way more than this assbastard that is POTUS ever will. Its bullshit of the highest order in my book. The whole asinine bullshit of him sealing his records from the public, while i have to go thru hell to get what is RIGHTFULLY mine, is complete bullshit. He is piece iof shit in my book, and I would LOVE for somebody to explain to me why he is so fucking superior to me that he can become POTUS with no historical records, no BC, and I can't even collect my fucking SS.

    The records at LDS are great. But not infallible by any stretch.
    Infallible no, but they wouldn't be off by a continent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Bullshit. The LDS is not the genealogy police. They simply keep records of the imformation they recieve. They don't do indepth research, and investigations. I know. I been there. And what they have on me and a couple relatives is wrong.
    They DO NOT have correct or complete info on most adoptions, as well as other conditions.
    Its one of the bitches I have with this prick in office. I went thru hell getting a certified copy of my birth certificate so I could collect my pension. I didn't need the damn thing to join the union or invest thousands with them. Only to get it back. I will end up going thru the same bullshit with the federal government for my SS too. Way more than this assbastard that is POTUS ever will. Its bullshit of the highest order in my book. The whole asinine bullshit of him sealing his records from the public, while i have to go thru hell to get what is RIGHTFULLY mine, is complete bullshit. He is piece iof shit in my book, and I would LOVE for somebody to explain to me why he is so fucking superior to me that he can become POTUS with no historical records, no BC, and I can't even collect my fucking SS.

    The records at LDS are great. But not infallible by any stretch.



    Gnny, Hmmmmm .... This is interesting ..... Are you an illegal alien ??? Are you a love child ??? ..Were you abandonded on a church door step???....A lab experiment gone wrong?? Not that any of this makes you a bad person... plenty of other things cover that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quickjet View Post
    Infallible no, but they wouldn't be off by a continent.
    They can be off by as much as they are told. I will say it again. They do not INVESTIGATEa the information. They simply collect it and safe guard it. They do NOT have the time to authenticate it. I KNOW. If you wish to fuck with me on this QJ, I assure you its a very sore open wound with me. They know ONLY what they are told, nothing more.

    What they had on me might as well had be born to 2 monkeys in south america. It was that wrong. It is simply what was given to them. Same exact info I already had. Which was useless.
    No, I am no adopted. But people under witness protection can have the same results. No, I'm not under that either. But do you get the fucking idea???????
    Its only as accurate as the people giving them the info want it to be. No more.
    If your records are sealed from public, your hiding somethng. And its a walk in the fucking park to hide it from the LDS. They simply do not have the time and money to investigate every mutha fucking BC.



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    Kind of funny i think, It just happens that Mormon genealogy, in particular the family library on n.temple has a reputation in certain circles to be thee place to go to if a person was in need of fictitious identification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoldHondaBoughtHondo View Post
    Kind of funny i think, It just happens that Mormon genealogy, in particular the family library on n.temple has a reputation in certain circles to be thee place to go to if a person was in need of fictitious identification.
    Where the hell do you think the government gets genealogies for people in witness protection. Or......put phony genealogies on people in withness protection. Amoung other reasons



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    Default Family tree...

    My Sister followed an Aunt's lifetime work about our ancestry... Took it over after her death. Part of her research was a trip to Salt Lake City to the LDS extensive library... Sure enough, some of their information was wrong... They were happy to correct the errors based solely on the information my Sister supplied them... So yeah, they have a lot, but it's only what they are told.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moneypit View Post
    My Sister followed an Aunt's lifetime work about our ancestry... Took it over after her death. Part of her research was a trip to Salt Lake City to the LDS extensive library... Sure enough, some of their information was wrong... They were happy to correct the errors based solely on the information my Sister supplied them... So yeah, they have a lot, but it's only what they are told.....
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    They do an incredable job for operating on donations. Its amzing to say the very least. They should be commented for the work they do. But the simply facts are, they do not have the personell, or monetary resources to investigate information indepth. It also not their responsibilty to. They simply collect the info they are supplied the very best they can. The very idea that a private non governmental organization is willing to collect that much information and safe guard it is incredable.
    There are literally tens of thousands that they have mis information on for one reason or another.
    QJ is 100% wrong to think it is that the LDS files can't have wrong info. It does. And it has wrong info on tens of thousands for various reasons none of which are due to their incompetence, or lack of concern. They are simply not the FBI or CIA, or any other unlimited resourced agency.


    So, a woman has a child thru in vitro, and the child is raised from a donor. Lets say octomoms kids. Does the LDS have the correct name of the bio father. Is he a legal citizens of the US. Can the LDS assure the American public he is. If the kids are raised by a US marine born in Kansas, but the father is a Muzzie, should the kids be allowed to become POTUS? How about we reverse it. The bio father is a US marine, knocks up a women in Pakistan, she marries a paki and moves to the US where the kid is born and raised a terriorist muzzie in Florida.
    Should he be allowed to become POTUS? If not why not?
    And could the LDS possibly know the marine knocked the women up?

    Come on QJ, its only as good as the info they get. PERIOD!!!! I KNOW!!!!
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    The genealogical library is a source of records, both birth and death. They don't falsify documents. If Obama was not born in Hawaii they would know it . The same goes for him being born in Kenya. Its a library of documents to be used to trace family lineage. The library has aided my family to go back as far as late 17th century Italy.
    Are you guys saying that the Mormon church is now involved in the Obama cover up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quickjet View Post
    The genealogical library is a source of records, both birth and death. They don't falsify documents. If Obama was not born in Hawaii they would know it . The same goes for him being born in Kenya. Its a library of documents to be used to trace family lineage. The library has aided my family to go back as far as late 17th century Italy.
    Are you guys saying that the Mormon church is now involved in the Obama cover up?
    You stupid ignorant dumbass. NOBODY, not single person said anything like that you ignorant asshole. We said they are NOT an investigative agency. They do not, and cannot verify false info supplied to them. Is that so fucking hard for your dense freek'n skull to absorb. Damn, is there no limit to your ignorance?
    Nobody here is acussing the LDS of anything. Certainly not a cover up. Show me where I or ANYBO
    DY ELSE said they are invlovled in any type of a cover up.
    DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH ASSHOLE!!!!!!
    You ignorance has no bounds and you are proving it more with every post!

    You can join those other 2 fucking morons ram and zombie on my ignore list. You simply to ignorant to continue reading

    Next you muthafucker, are going to say I am accusing them of fucking up my records. Thats jsut how ignorant you are.



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    Default LDS gift to obama...

    This thread was started because the news agencies reported that the LDS President? presented obama with a book containing his family heritage... Something they have done for several/many sitting Presidents. I'm quite sure it is nothing more than a neatly prepared document based on available information. How they researched his African heritage would be a mystery based on African record keeping of the 19th, early 20th Century... Hell, American record keeping of that era has to leave a lot to be desired... Any information that came out of Hawaii, without obama's permission, would be a hell of a lot more than anyone else has been able to obtain...The book was a surprise, right? No one else has been able to get ANYTHING. So we must assume they just accepted what has already been released to the media.....So how could they have done any real investigation???

    This new "news" does nothing to authenticate obama's claim of Hawaiian birth...

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