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    Just heard on the news, Obummer is ahead in most muslim populated states. I wonder why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nice Pair View Post
    Just heard on the news, Obummer is ahead in most muslim states. I wonder why.
    What is a muslim state? And how can ahead be such an ass?

    I guess them muzzies already forgot he took credit for bulls eye bin laden? Or they knew he really didn't have anything to do with it because he is a pathological liar?
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    It's obvious the media is looking for anyway they can to pump Obama and convince America the election is over. Pretty soon they'll be announcing that Obama has an insurmountable lead in every state that has the letter "I" in it.

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    Just wondering how people feel about a potential president who belongs to a church everyone can't go to.


    Just wondering...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler Guy View Post
    Just wondering how people feel about a potential president who belongs to a church everyone can't go to.


    Just wondering...
    I don't go to church. I feel a whole lot better about him and his church than I do of the religion of the people in the picture below. The effigy of Christ in Egypt.
    My son does do fun things with Mormans, they invited him to trunk or treat. We never looked into converting so I can't say that we wouldn't be welcome.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler Guy View Post
    Just wondering how people feel about a potential president who belongs to a church everyone can't go to.


    Just wondering...
    I'm assuming that you mean the Mormon church. You can go to their church. Where did you get the idea that you couldn't?
    educate yourself before posting something that ridiculous. I live in a state full of them!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler Guy View Post
    Just wondering how people feel about a potential president who belongs to a church everyone can't go to.


    Just wondering...
    When people start murdering, steeling, cheating and lying to their neighbor in the name of Joseph Smith Jr or Brigham Young, I'll worry about the Mormon church and who attends it.

    Right know I'm more interested in the best person available to run the biggest economy in the world, not ruin it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICECREAMAN View Post
    When people start murdering, steeling, cheating and lying to their neighbor in the name of Joseph Smith Jr or Brigham Young, I'll worry about the Mormon church and who attends it.

    Right know I'm more interested in the best person available to run the biggest economy in the world, not ruin it.
    If they could over look 20 years in Rev Wrights God Damn America church, they should be ashamed for questioning Romney's religion.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler Guy View Post
    Just wondering how people feel about a potential president who belongs to a church everyone can't go to.


    Just wondering...
    MORONS! Never a lack of them. This is in the top 10 dumbest posts ever. You not only go go to one, there is one near me that gives tours.
    I not only have been in a Morman Church, contrary to popular belief, I have done WORK there. Not real common for them to hire non Mormans to perform work and services for them, but it does happen. They are tight knit, but no ignorant. And they pay WAAAAAAY better than the state or county when we do work for them.
    Not allowed in? Serious? You need to make a freek'n reservation to get in the place!!!!
    NOW, if you what to talk about being locked out of a church, try going into a Mosque. Thats your CURRENT president's church, and your concerned with the Mormans. What a jackass!

    LINK: Los Angeles Morman Temple



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    MORONS! Never a lack of them. This is in the top 10 dumbest posts ever. You not only go go to one, there is one near me that gives tours.
    I not only have been in a Morman Church, contrary to popular belief, I have done WORK there. Not real common for them to hire non Mormans to perform work and services for them, but it does happen. They are tight knit, but no ignorant. And they pay WAAAAAAY better than the state or county when we do work for them.
    Not allowed in? Serious? You need to make a freek'n reservation to get in the place!!!!
    NOW, if you what to talk about being locked out of a church, try going into a Mosque. Thats your CURRENT president's church, and your concerned with the Mormans. What a jackass!

    LINK: Los Angeles Morman Temple
    Easy buddy, my mistake I meant temples.... A regular citizen can not go into any of the temples....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler Guy View Post
    Easy buddy, my mistake I meant temples.... A regular citizen can not go into any of the temples....
    This slam at Romney's religion worked out like a Chik-fil-A boycott for you, didn't it.

    According to everything I have ever heard, all temples are open to the public, immediately after being built for anyone and everyone to enter and take a guided tour. Can you prove that statement wrong? They are building one about five miles from my house and we are looking forward to the open house/tour ourselves. Again, it's open to the general public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    This slam at Romney's religion worked out like a Chik-fil-A boycott for you, didn't it.

    According to everything I have ever heard, all temples are open to the public, immediately after being built for anyone and everyone to enter and take a guided tour. Can you prove that statement wrong? They are building one about five miles from my house and we are looking forward to the open house/tour ourselves. Again, it's open to the general public.
    It's funny how you think I'm attacking Romney, it was just a question.
    I'm not slamming his religion at all.
    But here's the proof for you..
    MORMON TEMPLES AND TEMPLE RITUALS

    by Richard Packham
    The purpose of this article is to give a quick overview of the nature of Mormon temples and their rituals, and to direct the reader who wishes more detail to appropriate sources.
    One of the most visible characteristics of the Mormon church (officially "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints", also called the "LDS Church") is its temples. These imposing structures, situated on beautifully landscaped sites, attract attention; they are often local landmarks. As late as the 1950's there was scarcely a handful of such temples in existence, four of them in Utah, and one each in Hawaii, Alberta, Arizona and Idaho. (The first Mormon temple to be built, in the 1830s, is still standing in Kirtland, Ohio, but is no longer owned by the church, and was not designed or used for the same rituals as the later temples.) Since the 1960's, however, the church has built an imposing temple in most of the major cities of the world, and there are now over one hundred worldwide.
    Mormon temples are quite different, both in design and use, from the buildings where Mormon congregations hold their weekly worship services. On Sundays Mormons gather for meetings, sermons and simple worship in the local "chapel" or "meeting house" or "ward house" or "church" (these terms are used interchangeably by most Mormons). Mormons go to the temple only on weekdays, never on Sunday - the temples are closed on Sundays. Some Mormons go to the temple quite regularly; others rarely, since for many Mormons the nearest temple may be hundreds of miles from their home. Temples are closed to the public and also to Mormons who do not qualify as sufficiently "worthy." The rituals in the temples - especially the "endowment" - are considered so sacred that Mormons are forbidden to discuss them outside the temple itself.
    Even non-Mormons sometimes object to articles such as the one you are now reading, since such articles reveal Mormons' religious secrets to a curious - and perhaps unworthy and even mocking - world. Many people, not only devout Mormons, feel that it is wrong to do this. Usually two reasons for the objection are given: 1) things that anyone holds sacred should not be profaned, mocked or ridiculed by anyone else, even by one who does not consider them sacred; and 2) the person who is revealing the secrets usually is someone who obtained the secrets only by swearing an oath of secrecy, and thus is breaking an oath.
    As to the first objection, this article does not "mock" or "ridicule" the secrets of the Mormon temple; it merely reveals them. Also, it seems rather odd to refuse to discuss objectively and openly any subject just because someone else feels that subject is taboo. I doubt that many Mormons would refuse to discuss the sacred initiation rituals of some primitive African tribe or some Satanist cult on the grounds that the tribe or cult considered those rites sacred. As to the second objection, the validity and binding nature of an oath or any promise depends, both legally and morally, upon the validity of the mutually accepted facts underlying the demanding and the giving of the oath. The oath of secrecy given by a Mormon in the temple is based on the assurance and sacred promise by the church that the oath is required by God, and that the secrets one will receive are given by God. If those assurances are in fact false, then one cannot be bound either legally or morally by any such oath, since it was obtained by a lie. (For further discussion of this issue, click here.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler Guy View Post
    Just wondering how people feel about a potential president who belongs to a church everyone can't go to.


    Just wondering...
    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler Guy View Post
    It's funny how you think I'm attacking Romney, it was just a question.
    I'm not slamming his religion at all.
    I'm calling BS. If your second comment was true, your 1st question would of read , How do people feel about the visitation guidelines at the Morman Temples.



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