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    Default I Thought It Was Supposed To Reduce Costs.

    Seems the more and more we find ourt about ObamaCare the more it is going to destroy the country. Seems small and medium business's along with people paying for thier own HI could see thier premiums go up 25 to 50%. I quarantee you if this happens I will drop HI for all my employees.

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    Just heard on Rush how Blue Shield said their rates will go up 20%
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzMandella View Post
    Seems the more and more we find ourt about ObamaCare the more it is going to destroy the country. Seems small and medium business's along with people paying for thier own HI could see thier premiums go up 25 to 50%. I quarantee you if this happens I will drop HI for all my employees.

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    You guys are missing the entire point of this. There is no increase in cost to the entitlement class whatsoever. Full coverage for nothing is what they get by this bill. It's the productive class that ALL LIBERALS want to crush into oblivion (until they realize they have been paying their way, that is.)


    There's a huge difference in the lies these democrat legislators were told and what is truth.

    Here's what they were told. Employers could save as much as 3000% on their premiums. Only a liberal democrat could be stupid enough to miss this mathmatic catastrophe and buy in with another vote for the same idiots.


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    He said it in a speech that it's just a step towards single payer. Here's the scheme. Make it to where no one can afford to buy health care from private companies. Have a government system in place. When no one can buy from the private market and private insurance goes under, the government steps in to take over. Since the government is funding healthcare, the government will start regulating hospitals and staff payment. That's where AARP comes in as they'll offer a supplemental insurance for doctors that cater to the more affluent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    You guys are missing the entire point of this. There is no increase in cost to the entitlement class whatsoever. Full coverage for nothing is what they get by this bill. It's the productive class that ALL LIBERALS want to crush into oblivion (until they realize they have been paying their way, that is.)


    There's a huge difference in the lies these democrat legislators were told and what is truth.

    Here's what they were told. Employers could save as much as 3000% on their premiums. Only a liberal democrat could be stupid enough to miss this mathmatic catastrophe and buy in with another vote for the same idiots.


    Here's reality:
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    Here you go Doc. O admits he is a math dummy.
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    January 1st I start paying the second increase in HC premiums since this bill passed. The shop workers haven't seen a dime in payroll increase since it went into effect to offset the increase the employer is seeing. And the union is self insured!!!! and they set the per hour rate that the employers would pay in the last contract agreement. Demanding an increase in HC payments is paramount to demanding wage increases, right in the middle of a contract term. Not going to happen. So they are tagging the workers for it. Its not a scam by the union to fleece the workers, the increases are real. But I doubt any of them thought that voted this asswipe into office would result in their raises disappearing. Oh well. Sucks to learn you were played.



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    Bingo and exactly what I have been telling people for months. Sadly, none of the liberals want to listen.

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    He said it in a speech that it's just a step towards single payer. Here's the scheme. Make it to where no one can afford to buy health care from private companies. Have a government system in place. When no one can buy from the private market and private insurance goes under, the government steps in to take over. Since the government is funding healthcare, the government will start regulating hospitals and staff payment. That's where AARP comes in as they'll offer a supplemental insurance for doctors that cater to the more affluent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    January 1st I start paying the second increase in HC premiums since this bill passed.
    You've only had 2? Mine increase double digits every year.

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    More great news for anyone who is on entitlements. Everyone who is supporting themselves are now going to experience more bills to do so. This is all part of the liberal master-plan. Thanks Libs! You have proven to be less than genius level voters.

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    Well all I know is the last 2 years my insurance has gone up. Yes in double digets. Like 40% each year. Had to change the plan. No more dental or vision. and it cost more then 2 years ago. Who knows. Might just cancel it next year. So my employes will now get Bronco Care. He sure showed them how good it is for everyone.

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    Comes out of my pension check. Seems fairly soon it will read "ZERO"
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    He said it in a speech that it's just a step towards single payer. Here's the scheme. Make it to where no one can afford to buy health care from private companies. Have a government system in place. When no one can buy from the private market and private insurance goes under, the government steps in to take over. Since the government is funding healthcare, the government will start regulating hospitals and staff payment. That's where AARP comes in as they'll offer a supplemental insurance for doctors that cater to the more affluent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EVILFORCE View Post
    Well all I know is the last 2 years my insurance has gone up. Yes in double digets. Like 40% each year. Had to change the plan. No more dental or vision. and it cost more then 2 years ago. Who knows. Might just cancel it next year. So my employes will now get Bronco Care. He sure showed them how good it is for everyone.
    Employees? I wish I still had some.

    My wife and I have dropped all dental and vision, deductable is up to 8K apeice.
    Even so our premiums are close to double than what they were in 08.

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