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    Well here we go again. Fucking Black liberal making racial slurs because he thinks RGIII is not black enough "Not one of the brothers". Every time a black man does good the others have to bring him down. they hate him because he is articulate, smart, and smart enough to not by into the Dem leftist BS as a registered republican. will this man loose his job. where is Jessie, Al and all the other race baiters at, to defend this man who is being racialy crucified ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzMandella View Post
    Well here we go again. Fucking Black liberal making racial slurs because he thinks RGIII is not black enough "Not one of the brothers". Every time a black man does good the others have to bring him down. they hate him because he is articulate, smart, and smart enough to not by into the Dem leftist BS as a registered republican. will this man loose his job. where is Jessie, Al and all the other race baiters at, to defend this man who is being racialy crucified ?

    Redskin QB Not Black Enough For ESPN? - RG III - Fox Nation
    Man that guy can play. Screw the Black Elite Slavemakers the more guys like RGlll that become recognized on a worldwide scale, the more role models the fatherless slaves have to look up to. Guys like this can create division within the ranks of those fools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSDC View Post
    Man that guy can play. Screw the Black Elite Slavemakers the more guys like RGlll that become recognized on a worldwide scale, the more role models the fatherless slaves have to look up to. Guys like this can create division within the ranks of those fools.
    I have been a Redskins fan cince a was a little kid. It is disgusting how when a man like RGIII accomplishes so much the others have to bring him down. I have heard the man talk in interviews and he is extreemly smart and articulate. I guess too much so for the brotha's.
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    Well said:

    Black enough. Really? We're having that old conversation?
    So if he married a black woman and we knew he was a democrat, that makes him black? Shouldn't we all be beyond trying to tell anyone who to love and how to behave? Calling Griffin a cornball, as Parker did, is wrong. To quote Marvin Gaye: "make me wanna holla, throw up both my hands."

    Let me get this straight, a brother who handles his business on and off the field, who earned a college degree, has national advertising campaigns and has way too many grown men walking around with his name on the backs of their jerseys can be deemed not black enough.

    Parker, suspended one day after he made his comments, wasn't the first to say it and likely won't be the last.
    Parker, who made his comments Thursday on First Take, comes across as a hater. Griffin III is exactly who my ancestors would want a young black man to be: successful, talented, respectful and rich. Who wouldn't want to hang out with him?

    To counter the stereotype, let's not pretend that color does not matter or pretend we do not see it.
    In this country, black people have been seen as a monolithic group. If one person behaved badly it reflected on all of us. Conversely if one person made it or moved on up, he or she was the exception. Newsflash -- Griffin III is not the exception. Not all black male athletes have been arrested or fail to take care of their children. That is often the image we get from newspapers, TV shows, radio, the internet. Another one that irks me is that of white coaches saving all these young men. Lazy story tellers have long gravitated to that storyline.

    Navigating this whole race thing is complicated and nuanced. Griffin's parents said they raised him not to see color. That's what works for them. I feel differently. Define me as black, but do not trap me in the stereotypes of what black supposedly is. How about we open our eyes, see our differences and still celebrate each other. We must embrace color, not judge it or pigeonhole it. I am insulted when people say we should not see color. I don't want to have to live in a colorless world, just one with a lot less judgment.

    But we judge quickly and often. White quarterbacks are called "smart" and black quarterbacks are described as "athletic." The stereotypes keep us from bridging the gaps. The recent uproar over NFL players and guns was not so much about the hunters and collectors as it was about the so-called "thugs." I cringe when I hear the word thug; code for "black athletes."

    What we need is communication and education with each other. Sports provides us so many opportunities to learn about each other and our stories. It is still disappointing that a historic accomplishment in London came down to thousands of tweets about Douglas' hair.

    Talking about hair is still very sensitive, so sensitive that Chris Rock made a movie about it. Not sure why Skip Bayless perhaps thought to give Parker an out and asked about Griffin's hair.
    "Now that's different," Parker said. "To me, that's very urban and makes you feel like … wearing braids, you're a brother. You're a brother if you've got braids on."

    Reach for the hair gel if you think Parker is the only one who thinks that.
    Surely this is not the discussion the Griffins want people to have about their son. They want to talk about his heart, his dedication, his hard work -- all the things people talk about when they talk about Indianapolis Colts quarterback Andrew Luck.

    Griffin III has very impressive numbers in his rookie season. It matters not the color of the woman standing beside him nor his hairstyle or that he's made a name for himself by wearing wacky socks. He asks to be judged by his work ethic, his character.

    He is wise to do that because the real conversation is not just about him, but about all of us, our ethics, our character, our rush to judge, our continued ignorance. That's the conversation we need to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by you gots 2 chill View Post
    Well said:

    Black enough. Really? We're having that old conversation?
    So if he married a black woman and we knew he was a democrat, that makes him black? Shouldn't we all be beyond trying to tell anyone who to love and how to behave? Calling Griffin a cornball, as Parker did, is wrong. To quote Marvin Gaye: "make me wanna holla, throw up both my hands."

    Let me get this straight, a brother who handles his business on and off the field, who earned a college degree, has national advertising campaigns and has way too many grown men walking around with his name on the backs of their jerseys can be deemed not black enough.

    Parker, suspended one day after he made his comments, wasn't the first to say it and likely won't be the last.
    Parker, who made his comments Thursday on First Take, comes across as a hater. Griffin III is exactly who my ancestors would want a young black man to be: successful, talented, respectful and rich. Who wouldn't want to hang out with him?

    To counter the stereotype, let's not pretend that color does not matter or pretend we do not see it.
    In this country, black people have been seen as a monolithic group. If one person behaved badly it reflected on all of us. Conversely if one person made it or moved on up, he or she was the exception. Newsflash -- Griffin III is not the exception. Not all black male athletes have been arrested or fail to take care of their children. That is often the image we get from newspapers, TV shows, radio, the internet. Another one that irks me is that of white coaches saving all these young men. Lazy story tellers have long gravitated to that storyline.

    Navigating this whole race thing is complicated and nuanced. Griffin's parents said they raised him not to see color. That's what works for them. I feel differently. Define me as black, but do not trap me in the stereotypes of what black supposedly is. How about we open our eyes, see our differences and still celebrate each other. We must embrace color, not judge it or pigeonhole it. I am insulted when people say we should not see color. I don't want to have to live in a colorless world, just one with a lot less judgment.

    But we judge quickly and often. White quarterbacks are called "smart" and black quarterbacks are described as "athletic." The stereotypes keep us from bridging the gaps. The recent uproar over NFL players and guns was not so much about the hunters and collectors as it was about the so-called "thugs." I cringe when I hear the word thug; code for "black athletes."

    What we need is communication and education with each other. Sports provides us so many opportunities to learn about each other and our stories. It is still disappointing that a historic accomplishment in London came down to thousands of tweets about Douglas' hair.

    Talking about hair is still very sensitive, so sensitive that Chris Rock made a movie about it. Not sure why Skip Bayless perhaps thought to give Parker an out and asked about Griffin's hair.
    "Now that's different," Parker said. "To me, that's very urban and makes you feel like … wearing braids, you're a brother. You're a brother if you've got braids on."

    Reach for the hair gel if you think Parker is the only one who thinks that.
    Surely this is not the discussion the Griffins want people to have about their son. They want to talk about his heart, his dedication, his hard work -- all the things people talk about when they talk about Indianapolis Colts quarterback Andrew Luck.

    Griffin III has very impressive numbers in his rookie season. It matters not the color of the woman standing beside him nor his hairstyle or that he's made a name for himself by wearing wacky socks. He asks to be judged by his work ethic, his character.

    He is wise to do that because the real conversation is not just about him, but about all of us, our ethics, our character, our rush to judge, our continued ignorance. That's the conversation we need to have.
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    Excellent post Chill. This race card thing is going way too far. Lets respect the accomplishments of people, no matter color, and praise the fact we have a Country where all have the oppurtunity to succeed.

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    All I know is that SOB has an arm like a cannon, and runs like a world class sprinter.

    He could finally dispense the qliches concerning "running Quarterbacks".

    It is shit like this that makes me understand to a degree the points Chill makes at times.
    It really does seem that the black man is fucked no matter what.

    Personally I think racism will never die completely until the pawns of those who profit, like Jackson etc., realize that they are being used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    He could finally dispense the qliches concerning "running Quarterbacks".
    Don't get me started on Cam Newton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzMandella View Post
    Well here we go again. Fucking Black liberal making racial slurs because he thinks RGIII is not black enough "Not one of the brothers". Every url]
    Buncha crap. I once heard some black idiot complain about Bill Cosby. Duh. Who has done more for black image than Bill Cosby? RG3 will be great for black image. I am surprised ESPN even aired this crap. ESPN used to run endless shit on Donovan McNabb being a black qb, Rush L. mentioned it once and was immediately canned.


    Quote Originally Posted by you gots 2 chill View Post
    . Griffin III is exactly who my ancestors would want a young black man to be: successful, talented, respectful and rich. Who wouldn't want to hang out with him?

    But we judge quickly and often. White quarterbacks are called "smart" and black quarterbacks are described as "athletic."

    Talking about hair is still very sensitive, so sensitive that Chris Rock made a movie about it. .
    Great post.
    I assume RG3 will be considered smart when he leads his team deep into the playoffs, has a great completion %, and beats blitzes.
    Funny thing about the hair, my stylist just told me most black women wear wigs. I never knew that.
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    Don't hate me for this but I think RG3 is an American....................
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    Update Found my old Sanger 12/7/14 in Reno.

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    You gots 2 chill,

    That was a very well written response. For anything to change, outrage to comments like that about RGIII need to come from the black community. Anything a white guy like me says will be considered racist. Success needs to be triumphed not torn down, especially among the younger generations. People like Bill Cosby are and should be american Icons.

    All this "hyphenated American" bullshit needs to go away, that is a big part of the problem. Either you are an american or not. . We all came from somewhere else at some point in time.

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    I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention. I was so impressed with his talents and the way he handled himself with the press that I forgot I was supposed to notice one race over another. I thought he was just a great football player and really never considered his color. I'm funny that way.

    I also didn't stop to carefully consider Josh Brent's race when the story broke about his DUI that killed teammate Jerry Brown. I thought it was simply a disastrous judgement call by a fellow human. Was color/race supposed to be part of that equation? Why should it be in any discussion? This whole race thing really confuses me because there's good and bad in every race, color, religion, gender, national origin, familial status, and handicap.
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