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    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    Alright, I have one question....How do you keep the weapons out of the hands of criminals and the insane.....You don't want to pay taxes for prisons, you want all the dope smokers filling the jails, and you were overjoyed when Gov Reagan eliminated the mental health system that controlled the nut-bags......So do we just walk around with gun in hand, and shoot first when we see a guy who looks whacked out?

    It seems to me that it's nuts to have all these rules controlling auto ownership and driving, yet you want a free-for-all with weapons....And if I remember the way the amendment was written, it said "Well-REGULATED militia".......so don't wave the constitution in my face cause it contradictes what you want.
    Why are all you arguments always presented as extreme and abstract?
    Are you really comparing what it takes to own a gun to getting a drivers license?
    What rule exactly controls car ownership?

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    Hey, GNNy, hows tricks? I see you still have to call people names, like an 8 year old....And there-in lies the problem with a gun "Free-for-all".....Because I definitely think YOUR guns should be taken away.....You are NOT responsible!

    You need to go back to the "Old west", and find out that almost every town had a law against carrying guns in city limits......Sadly, people like you on the right and the fwanky lefties are so far to the extremes that we can't possibly have a proper, responsible discussion. I'd like to have a short waiting period, a background check that eliminates Felones and whack-jobs from Gun ownership, yet guarantees lawful gun-ownership,
    Well here in Ca, that's pretty much what it takes to own a gun, as well as obtaining a hand gun safety permit. Plus $50.00.




    and has a clause that cancels the whole law if the Govt trys to expand gun control laws after.
    The smartest thought of your posts right there. This I would whole heartedly agree with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    Hey, GNNy, hows tricks? I see you still have to call people names, like an 8 year old....And there-in lies the problem with a gun "Free-for-all".....Because I definitely think YOUR guns should be taken away.....You are NOT responsible!

    You need to go back to the "Old west", and find out that almost every town had a law against carrying guns in city limits......Sadly, people like you on the right and the fwanky lefties are so far to the extremes that we can't possibly have a proper, responsible discussion. I'd like to have a short waiting period, a background check that eliminates Felones and whack-jobs from Gun ownership, yet guarantees lawful gun-ownership, and has a clause that cancels the whole law if the Govt trys to expand gun control laws after.

    I'm sure you'll have a proper response to my post........Take it all the way to the extreme, Gnny!
    I was actaull being pretty civil and polite with you CVX. You should see the names I have for your heros Marx, Lenin, Stalin and Hitler. Not pretty I assure you, and not one bit remorsefull for using them. You nothing more than an ignorant pawn for those trying to push the agenda you so gleefully step in line with.

    By the way, WTF do you consider name calling asshole? Gnny? WTF is up with that you fucking hypocrit.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    I was actaull being pretty civil and polite with you CVX. You should see the names I have for your heros Marx, Lenin, Stalin and Hitler. Not pretty I assure you, and not one bit remorsefull for using them. You nothing more than an ignorant pawn for those trying to push the agenda you so gleefully step in line with.

    By the way, WTF do you consider name calling asshole? Gnny? WTF is up with that you fucking hypocrit.
    Gnny, those are not my heros.....Mine are Abe Lincoln, George Washington, Teddy Roosevelt and Benjamin Franklin. You are A) the one who always start it, and B) Your Forum name is GN7, so I don't really think that Gnny is really derogatory.....But maybe you have some Self-loathing issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    B) Your Forum name is GN7, so I don't really think that Gnny is really derogatory.....But maybe you have some Self-loathing issues.
    Your ignorance shows no limitations.



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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    Deb and I were discussing this very thing this morning.

    What will be the outcome?

    At what point does the military and LE cease to become our employed "guardians" and become SS Stormtroopers answering only to the dictator?
    What will they do to confiscate weapons? What level of obedience to the "Orator" are they prepared to follow?
    What will be our response as citizens when they knock on the door with the swat team?
    Every last one of them took a solemn oath to uphold and defend the constitution and the second amendment was clearly to be protected against all enemies - liberals included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    Every last one of them took a solemn oath to uphold and defend the constitution and the second amendment was clearly to be protected against all enemies - liberals included.
    That is a great post; I personally don't see our military ever acting against our citizens, whether under R or D leadership...Our military is the best in the world, and because we have an all-volunteer force who chose to join, and because of their oath, I see no reason to fear them...As for the govt, I don't think, looking at the state of our military, that ANY Admin would ever try to confiscate our guns.....But I wouldn't want to eliminate gun ownership, and I don't like a law that limits gun ownership without strong protections against overbearing govt......No matter what it ain't an easy thing....My main frustration is Criminals and the insane having access to firearms.
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    See CVX, you ignorance due to lack of any real education deprives you of any real insight on YOUR government.
    You are the perfect definition of "blind sheep" and "usefull idiot"
    Its not really your fault CVX. YOUR parents let you down with the miserable education your parents ALLOWED you to receive. Its probably the result of being taught by a bunch of commie teachers that made you the blind ass dipshit you are today.
    Your so right CVX, it could NEVER happen here.
    And WHO lead the troops on this little "exercise"????
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    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    Alright, I have one question....How do you keep the weapons out of the hands of criminals and the insane.....You don't want to pay taxes for prisons, you want all the dope smokers filling the jails, and you were overjoyed when Gov Reagan eliminated the mental health system that controlled the nut-bags......So do we just walk around with gun in hand, and shoot first when we see a guy who looks whacked out?

    It seems to me that it's nuts to have all these rules controlling auto ownership and driving, yet you want a free-for-all with weapons....And if I remember the way the amendment was written, it said "Well-REGULATED militia".......so don't wave the constitution in my face cause it contradictes what you want.
    How does this law keep these weapons out of the hands of criminals and the insane. Do you really think that the majority of criminals obtained them legally? The kid in CT...stole them from his mother. Columbine...underage kids obtained them illegally.

    Did you know that there was another attemted massacre in San Antonio? A guy walked into a restaurant and shot his ex. Then chased people into an adjoining theater....where he was killed by a good guy with a gun. Funny how thats NOT national news
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    I think cali will see if the feds can get their ban passed and then cali will just expand on it even further to be ahead of the curve (CARB). If the feds take to long then cali will step in.

    Here is what I foresee though. They know there will not be voluntary compliance if you are basically ordered to turn in your rifles and high cap mags so they will use the IRS to enforce civil penalties on you. Wage garnishments, tax liens, etc... till you comply. This is what they are doing to enforce the obamacare tax on us. DROS records will show who has rifles and they want even tighter records by forcing you to register them with fingerprints, ID etc...so that when they apply the tax they will know exactly who has banned guns.

    If this gets through and it will not be easy via congress, we are screwed. I suspect that O will use EO if congress fails though and then the court will have to decide and after what they did with obamacare, I am not confident in the court at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    Alright, I have one question....How do you keep the weapons out of the hands of criminals and the insane.
    It should be as easy as taking drugs off the streets CVX before your hero started distributing them to drug cartels under the "Fast and Furious" program.

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    CVX let me ask a very simple question, How does passing any of these gun laws the left is wanting to pass remove a single weapon from the hands of those that are mentally unstable or whom have criminal intentions?

    Criminals and the mentally unstable really don't care what the law says, they do as they please anyways. We have imigration laws, have they prevented illegals from entering the US?
    We have laws against illegal drugs, have they stopped the influx of illegal drugs? The answer to the above questions is No, the laws haven't stopped any of the listed illegal activities.

    That being said, if the proposed laws can't protect me against criminals and the mentally unstable, why should I give up my right to be able to defend myself and my family? Clearly they won't be able to prevent the flow of weapons into the US. They won't be able to stop the flow of ammunition for those illegal weapons. Nor can they stop the people who choose to ignore the "Law" that they claim will protect us and instead, they want us to abandon our constitutional right that guarentees us the ability to protect ourselves.

    How about we pass a law that says, when the government can stop the first two completely then they can entertain any motions for laws that infringe on our precious second ammendment rights?

    We're already fighting wars in third world countries where they have more illegal weapons than you can shake a stick at. Laws (words on paper) don't stop anything. It takes someone to enforce laws and that takes someone with guns. But who protects us from the protectors? For now that is easy; the second amendment.
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    Simple, a country wide law that requires a three day waiting period(No exceptions!) and true background check....The check would be YOUR name against a list of criminals and certified nuts(That probably does put me out!)....This way, you can't just drive to Nevada, buy a gun, come home and start killing people...Also, a 3-strikes law that is targeted against violent criminals, and then a prison like what RAH wrote about in the story "Coventry". Put 'em in and let 'em survive or die on their own.....No getting out- EVER!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    Simple, a country wide law that requires a three day waiting period(No exceptions!) and true background check....The check would be YOUR name against a list of criminals and certified nuts(That probably does put me out!)....This way, you can't just drive to Nevada, buy a gun, come home and start killing people...Also, a 3-strikes law that is targeted against violent criminals, and then a prison like what RAH wrote about in the story "Coventry". Put 'em in and let 'em survive or die on their own.....No getting out- EVER!
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    And yet you want armed guards in all schools....There is no civil society now because anyone can get a gun in an hour or less, and you want no limitations on criminals unless they've been thrown in jail....As soon as they are let out they can go get a gun again.....Insanity! Almost every town in the "Old west" had laws that required you to turn in your gun while in town.....But you want to walk around in you mythical version of the wild west.
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