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    Yep, the libtard governor of Illinois has signed a law that allows ILLEGAL ALIENS to obtain LEGAL drivers licenses good for 3 years..... They "must" pass a test, and produce insurance, but nothing has been said about how they will establish positive ID to begin with...... It seems the other states that have enacted similar laws have been overwhelmed with Identity theft crimes.... So, now we have ANOTHER sanctuary state in DIRECT violation of Federal LAW...... I think Arizona should enact the same license law, but use it as a STING to apprehend the fuckers when they come in to DMV......
    What's next???
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    Ray they will all be legal soon enough with the present admin driving the boat up the river of a fast path to citizenship.

    I don't disagree btw with a path to citizenship as long as its the same path as any other immigrant has to take for legal citizenship including ALL the requirements including the waiting list, learning the language etc. There's no other way to realistically solve the problem of millions already here beyond cracking down on employers of illegals. And that doesn't appear to have any legs for the most part. It is a pathetic situation. And meanwhile the border remains porous as a box of rocks trying to hold water. All in contempt of U.S. immigration LAW.

    Definition of ILLEGAL
    : not according to or authorized by law : unlawful, illicit; also : not sanctioned by official rules (as of a game)
    — il·le·gal·i·ty noun
    — il·le·gal·ly adverb
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    Examples of ILLEGAL

    In this state, it is illegal for anyone under the age of 21 to drink alcohol.
    The team was penalized for an illegal play.

    Origin of ILLEGAL
    Middle French or Medieval Latin; Middle French illegal, from Medieval Latin illegalis, from Latin in- + legalis legal
    First Known Use: 1538
    Related to ILLEGAL
    Synonyms: criminal, felonious, illegitimate, illicit, lawless, unlawful, wrongful
    Antonyms: lawful, legal, legitimate
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    Government doesn't have a clear understanding of what is legal or illegal. For example, firearms are legal under the Constitution yet government doesn't quite get that either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rexone View Post
    Ray they will all be legal soon enough with the present admin driving the boat up the river of a fast path to citizenship.

    I don't disagree btw with a path to citizenship as long as its the same path as any other immigrant has to take for legal citizenship including ALL the requirements including the waiting list, learning the language etc. There's no other way to realistically solve the problem of millions already here beyond cracking down on employers of illegals. And that doesn't appear to have any legs for the most part. It is a pathetic situation. And meanwhile the border remains porous as a box of rocks trying to hold water. All in contempt of U.S. immigration LAW.

    Definition of ILLEGAL
    : not according to or authorized by law : unlawful, illicit; also : not sanctioned by official rules (as of a game)
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    In this state, it is illegal for anyone under the age of 21 to drink alcohol.
    The team was penalized for an illegal play.

    Origin of ILLEGAL
    Middle French or Medieval Latin; Middle French illegal, from Medieval Latin illegalis, from Latin in- + legalis legal
    First Known Use: 1538
    Related to ILLEGAL
    Synonyms: criminal, felonious, illegitimate, illicit, lawless, unlawful, wrongful
    Antonyms: lawful, legal, legitimate
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    Government doesn't have a clear understanding of what is legal or illegal. For example, firearms are legal under the Constitution yet government doesn't quite get that either.
    But Janet Nonopolotineyo said that the "Illegals arent breaking any laws being here" , my quote may be slightly off...
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    I guess you all missed Senator McCain on the THIS WEEK show sunday morning. It is coming from both sides of the isle, like it or not. And for the record, I don't. At least not in the form of a hall pass.

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    An insurance card don't mean jack without provable ID. I think the insurance companies might have finally might have gotten caught on a game they used to play. As recently as 05 in utah insurance (card) was easy. With 2 companies that i know of for sure, Pr & Ge to get a card was as easy as filling out a form on line and paying with a debit card. Fill in the blanks, all of them, was necessary. Full name, dob, ss number, address, D/R for last 3 years. X the box at the bottom and fill in a name and instant insurance.....card.
    They send a policy in a week-10 days.
    Who reads fine print? Fine print says any errors on the original app. could potentially void the policy. They never actually checked the info....unless a claim was filed...You can bet that something simple like somebody who had a b/c of questionable origin or bogus ss number got the "POLICY INVALID" stamp of approval. Fence jumpers usually run when they stuff a car anyway. Insurance companies liked it....collect money for a policy that will never cost them money and fence jumpers didn't get impounded for no insurance....card. The d/l issue was easy 'never obtained a license' ticket. Cop to lazy to verify id...A piece of mail with the appropriate name...Maybe the cop might take a pic. Fence jumper pays the $50 fine and it's a done deal. Get another ticket for same thing, unless it ends up at the same court they never catch it. Name changing is easy.

    I was born here...think it would be ez for me? 35 years of ridding m/c, one time down. I ran into the front of a chev p/u hard enough to break the water pump. How, i don't really know but i ended up on the other side of the truck, sitting on my ass and wasn't wearing a helmet. 5 hrs later the hospital booted me out with no real injuries...except for everything i was, hurt like hell for close to 2 months. Fence jumper with the truck had a 'magic insurance card, and was gone. I was off work for 2 months..i did see the nasty note from dmv for not paying for the insurance on the balled up pile of scrap that was a 5 year project bike..no H/D, i had a mono-shock suzuki before suzuki did.

    Missed the letter where they suspended my license. First week back to work i get pulled over, bike was insured but license was suspended. Suspended license means the policy is void. Ticket was $1200. Got license back, late payment for fine got license suspended again, and another ticket.
    How many times total? Judge in west valley court said he thought i held the record. Never did any serious jail time..maybe 30 days total...for one reason, other than a crash that was not my fault, and an occasional speeder i have clean record...

    So no....No d/l and no insurance and no vehicle ownership for nobody who can't prove who they are and can prove they have a legal right to be in this country. Jump the fence and drive a car needs to be grounds for a year in tent city and a free plane ride with a 2000 mile minimum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodnJen View Post
    I guess you all missed Senator McCain on the THIS WEEK show sunday morning. It is coming from both sides of the isle, like it or not. And for the record, I don't. At least not in the form of a hall pass.

    Isn't it sad with all the very serious issue's our politicians have that need them working together to solve, the 1 issue the vast majority of Americans agree on, Imigration enforcment, is the issue they will all jump the isle for,..... in the wrong direction.

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    I look at it like gun registration. It just makes it easier to go round them all up later. We need to fix who is representing us first and then we can go back and start enforcing laws. Especially the ones that cost us money, like us having to pay for all the illegals being here. Tack in a stipulation that if they don't have a current address on the license they Will be deported.

    If we do it right, by 2015 we can start cleaning house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodnJen View Post
    I guess you all missed Senator McCain on the THIS WEEK show sunday morning. It is coming from both sides of the isle, like it or not. And for the record, I don't. At least not in the form of a hall pass.
    No, I didn't miss it.... There are a bunch of "what ifs" circulating around the Reid controlled Senate, but the 4 Republicans on the panel know any "very liberal" policy change won't get passed in the House... It's OK to talk about it, the Republicans NEED to talk about it, but until the border is SECURE don't look for the House to approve anything granting anyone a free ride to citizenship....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodnJen View Post
    I guess you all missed Senator McCain on the THIS WEEK show sunday morning. It is coming from both sides of the isle, like it or not. And for the record, I don't. At least not in the form of a hall pass.
    Nobody who belives in conservatives would put McCain on that side of the ailse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moneypit View Post
    Yep, the libtard governor of Illinois has signed a law that allows ILLEGAL ALIENS to obtain LEGAL drivers licenses good for 3 years..... They "must" pass a test, and produce insurance, What's next??? Ray
    I'm ok with somebody, paying a fee, and demonstrating an ability to drive = ok to drive here. I prefer that to the endless tickets for no DL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexone View Post
    Ray they will all be legal soon enough
    I don't disagree btw with a path to citizenship as long as its the same path as any other immigrant .
    What's next? Dare we ask?
    Well this year, they let 20 million become citizens. Then next year, they'll be right back, wanting 20 mILLION MORE (new Dem. voters) to be let in.

    Quote Originally Posted by RodnJen View Post
    I guess you all missed Senator McCain on the THIS WEEK show sunday morning. It is coming from both sides of the isle, like it or not. And for the record, I don't. At least not in the form of a hall pass.
    Yeah, that bothers me. The Rs are running scared right now. It's a trap though.

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    . Insurance companies liked it....collect money for a policy that will never cost them money .
    Thank you. Great point. I know a couple guys suspended for child support. Out of work? Tough shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodnJen View Post
    I guess you all missed Senator McCain on the THIS WEEK show sunday morning. It is coming from both sides of the isle, like it or not. And for the record, I don't. At least not in the form of a hall pass.
    You are using McCain as an example of a conservative republican. Are you freek'n kidding me here Rod. The asshole is more of a left liberal puke than YOU are.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    You are using McCain as an example of a conservative republican. Are you freek'n kidding me here Rod. The asshole is more of a left liberal puke than YOU are.
    Now THAT'S a bold statement!!
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