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    Obama is throwing out the scare tactics that Fire and Police budgets will be hacked if the "sequester goes through. Never mind that the "sequester" was HIS idea or the fact that he has the authority to cut anything....green energy subsidies for example, and the fact tht in reality 85 billion i ony about 2% of the budget.

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    I didnt know that the fire and police were paid through the federal government.


    Quote Originally Posted by havasu5150 View Post
    Obama is throwing out the scare tactics that Fire and Police budgets will be hacked if the "sequester goes through. Never mind that the "sequester" was HIS idea or the fact that he has the authority to cut anything....green energy subsidies for example, and the fact tht in reality 85 billion i ony about 2% of the budget.

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    More scare tactics.

    It's pretty sad when you have to warn America about the effects of the cuts you initiated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitcheyRch View Post
    I didnt know that the fire and police were paid through the federal government.


    QUOTE=havasu5150;1926498]Obama is throwing out the scare tactics that Fire and Police budgets will be hacked if the "sequester goes through. Never mind that the "sequester" was HIS idea or the fact that he has the authority to cut anything....green energy subsidies for example, and the fact tht in reality 85 billion i ony about 2% of the budget.

    Obama warns 'people will lose their jobs' if sequester cuts take effect next week - Yahoo! News
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    Local and state budgets for 1st reponders are subsidized by the feds...in addition many police and fire agencies are federal...FBI, US Forest service etc


    If those budgets are cut....its because this administration CHOOSES to do so.

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    It all originated HERE... And he agreed to it at that time... As well as the deal that was cut before midnight Dec 31 2012......................


    On Aug. 2, President Obama signed into law the Budget Control Act of 2011 (BCA). The bill
    allows the president to increase the debt ceiling by up to $2.8 trillion, but it will reduce the deficit
    by $2.3 trillion over 10 years, with at least $840 billion coming from discretionary spending cuts
    over the next decade. In the first year of enactment, fiscal year 2012, discretionary programs
    will see a cut of $44 billion (4 percent). There are two ways the federal deficit can be cut –
    through automatic “caps” on categories of spending or through a proposed budget hammered
    out by a “Super Committee” of 12 members of Congress. The automatic caps exempt some
    mandatory programs like Social Security, food stamps, and Medicare. However, no revenues
    would be raised to help retire the deficit. The Super Committee could cut any program or raise
    revenues.

    How does the Budget Control Act control the budget?

    BCA aims to reduce the deficit by $2.3 trillion over 10 years1 through two main vehicles:
    ****Caps on discretionary spending: BCA limits – or “caps” – overall discretionary
    spending for the next ten years. These caps will reduce spending by $841 billion2 over
    the next decade. If Congress approves budgets higher than the amount specified below,
    a procedure known as “sequestration” is initiated and across-the-board reductions in
    discretionary spending will occur. Mandatory programs like food stamps and Social
    Security are exempt from cuts and the cap.
    ****The “Super Committee” deficit reduction plan: BCA creates a new, special joint
    committee of Congress charged with finding an additional $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction.
    This “Super Committee” can cut spending (including Social Security and Medicare),
    raise revenue, or propose a combination of both. If the committee cannot agree on a
    plan, or Congress fails to
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    Quote Originally Posted by havasu5150 View Post

    Local and state budgets for 1st reponders are subsidized by the feds...in addition many police and fire agencies are federal...FBI, US Forest service etc


    If those budgets are cut....its because this administration CHOOSES to do so.
    BAM! Same with teachers. First of all, 50 years ago the feds didn't subsidize any of these things. The states local governments were allowed to keep all the money their communities raised. The FEDS LOVE local subsidies. They are the perfect means to keep the states and local governments inline. AZ tells Washington to fuck off over the drinking age and DC threatens to cut off there hiway funds. Who the fuck is the FEDS to have the money to start with. If the gas was pumped in AZ, the money should stay in AZ.

    The founding fathers warned about this and too many of the dimbulb's parents on here thought like their offspring do, and cherish the feds. Ask R&J how he feels about the feds having ALL the power and ALL the money. Its the typical marxist means of control, and the sheep welcome it.



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    The Chimp claims government services will be cut. Ha! Watch the states cut government services that support welfare. Cops, Fire, Utilities, other basic services, and administrators will be untouched. We all know the utopian socialist society fails when the money runs out.

    The House will start moving funds to shore up the military and the Senate liberals will have no choice except to support it or get voted out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullup View Post
    The Chimp claims government services will be cut. Ha! Watch the states cut government services that support welfare. Cops, Fire, Utilities, other basic services, and administrators will be untouched. We all know the utopian socialist society fails when the money runs out.

    The House will start moving funds to shore up the military and the Senate liberals will have no choice except to support it or get voted out.
    History proves you wrong. The EBT cards will stay loaded. Remember, they are the "entitled". They will bench service providers and as much of the life safety as they dare. Not to worry. All pay will be retro active once this is all worked out and no government worker will lose a dime in this. They NEVER DO. EVER!!!. They simply take a vacation during this, and get paid for it later.

    They do this as punishment to the tax payers for not seeing it THEIR WAY. If we are disobedient, they punish us by taking away the things we expect from our tax dollars but continue to pay the things they know piss us off. Its always the same.



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    This makes me sick at my stomach. How dare that man do what he is doing with all of the evidence to show he caused it. How can congress let him get away with it?

    He insists on the automatic cuts in November 2011 and vows to veto any legislation that does not include it. And when it comes time for it to happen its Obama to the rescue? OMG the man is a genius. Being able to plan ahead so far in advance to push for tax increases. And blame it on the other party.

    If I were super rich I would start a newspaper that exposed all of this BS. The facts are right there for anyone to see. There will be no jobs lost. Only a reduction in increased spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullup View Post
    The Chimp claims government services will be cut. Ha! Watch the states cut government services that support welfare. Cops, Fire, Utilities, other basic services, and administrators will be untouched. We all know the utopian socialist society fails when the money runs out.

    The House will start moving funds to shore up the military and the Senate liberals will have no choice except to support it or get voted out.
    U got that right sir... How else will Mr. BO continue his ILLEGAL drone war with bases all over Africa/M.E. ???


    Hey liberals, where is the outrage??? You guys would have nailed G.W. to a cross by now if he was ignoring congress's power/authority when it comes to waging war...

    A bunch of forked tongue HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infomaniac View Post
    This makes me sick at my stomach. How dare that man do what he is doing with all of the evidence to show he caused it. How can congress let him get away with it?

    He insists on the automatic cuts in November 2011 and vows to veto any legislation that does not include it. And when it comes time for it to happen its Obama to the rescue? OMG the man is a genius. Being able to plan ahead so far in advance to push for tax increases. And blame it on the other party.

    If I were super rich I would start a newspaper that exposed all of this BS. The facts are right there for anyone to see. There will be no jobs lost. Only a reduction in increased spending.

    AAAHHHHHHH.......
    Only right minded folks like us would read the newspaper, net result... no change im afraid...

    LIBERALS/PROGRESSIVES/COMMIES/HYPOCRITES don't listen to facts or logic or reason...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infomaniac View Post
    This makes me sick at my stomach. How dare that man do what he is doing with all of the evidence to show he caused it. How can congress let him get away with it?

    He insists on the automatic cuts in November 2011 and vows to veto any legislation that does not include it. And when it comes time for it to happen its Obama to the rescue? OMG the man is a genius. Being able to plan ahead so far in advance to push for tax increases. And blame it on the other party.

    If I were super rich I would start a newspaper that exposed all of this BS. The facts are right there for anyone to see. There will be no jobs lost. Only a reduction in increased spending.

    AAAHHHHHHH.......
    He did exactly the same thing in creating the fiscal cliff on 12/31 and the extention of the tax cuts. He knew that if he lost the election, he, he wouldn't sign the extension, and Romney wouldn't be swore in yet. And if he won, he could still refuse to sign them knowing congress didn't have time to override him. The man or people around him are artists when it comes to long range plans of disaster.



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    I'm not surprised by any of this..... This IS the Barry plan!!!! Destroy the U.S.A from the inside..
    Dinesh D' Souza's prediction and movie is playing out in real life... People were warned, but the takers outnumbered the makers ( voting 2-8 times didn't hurt either ), and so here we are living Barry's childish jealousy from his mentors!!!!

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