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    Question of the day. What do you think?

    Has Liberal policies made a need for a low class citizen without full rights?

    I think it's going to happen either way, but currently it's just going to apply to everyone.

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    Would a low class citizen be someone who has made a career out of collecting welfare, makes their choice by the way a candidate looks
    or promises of even more freebies, doesn't even know what party that candidate belongs to, say Constitution and e-lax is their response...Or maybe just someone who has no id because they have never needed it....or maybe the one they had would get them thrown in jail.....please don't say it is the person who needs a special ballot in the language of their choice....

    I do think people who vote more than once should get min/mandatory prison time...minimum security...picking fruit/vegetables and lifetime loss of voting rights.

    That might be something the founding fathers never anticipated...people who never make a contribution to society
    other than spending money taken from those who do..

    Maybe last years w2 and a pic id needs to part of the process....
    The thought that someone who can't make their own life function having any say in my life/future has a nasty feel to it...

    I know...as long as a person has never been convicted of a felony they have the right to vote....

    One thing i don't like...the very thought that someone enlisted in the armed forces might not have their vote counted..Those who put their life on the line on a daily basis should be first in line..even if it needs to be done via internet....

    I can't help but wonder what the results of last election would be if it was 100% accurate....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    Question of the day. What do you think?

    Has Liberal policies made a need for a low class citizen without full rights?

    I think it's going to happen either way, but currently it's just going to apply to everyone.
    That is the final outcome of socialist and communist ideology. Liberal and Progressive ideology is really no different, just another label. This ideology always amounts to some form of dictatorship and the oppression of all working class citizens.
    These governmental ideologies have always eventually failed. History confirms this.
    Wake the fuck up you brain dead naysayers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallett Dave View Post
    That is the final outcome of socialist and communist ideology. Liberal and Progressive ideology is really no different, just another label. This ideology always amounts to some form of dictatorship and the oppression of all working class citizens.
    These governmental ideologies have always eventually failed. History confirms this.
    Wake the fuck up you brain dead naysayers.




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    If the none working class isn't downgraded to a low class citizen with limited rights then we will end up with a type of socialist. There is a large segment of the population that can't even take care of themselves. My question is basically the only bailout plan for our country as it currently sits. We will get a new ism no matter what. I'd prefer one where the takers don't have rights and the working keep theirs. This would be a unique ism to history as far as I know.

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    Icy, there is nothing unique about where we are today. Others have been here, and they failed. Rome comes to mind first.
    If you are thinking that a limited lower class is the fix to the problem to keep from EVERYBODY becoming a lower class citizen, forget it. There is a thing called a constitution that gets in the way of your idea.
    However, the founding fathers did limit the vote to those that were land owners(tax payers). Its what was used to keep a non tax paying majority from voting everythng they wanted from the country's treasury off the backs of the tax paying minority. Madison called it the "tyranntical majority".


    History will prove out, that the current system will fail, and the government will be forced to cut the freebies. That will force scum out to the streets in search of food. If the second amendment is still the law of the land, there numbers will be cut considerably. Makes you wonder about the skills and ability to make a living that people like shue, R&J, CVX have in a dog eat dog world. They might as well be wearing milk bone underwear



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Icy, there is nothing unique about where we are today. Others have been here, and they failed. Rome comes to mind first.
    If you are thinking that a limited lower class is the fix to the problem to keep from EVERYBODY becoming a lower class citizen, forget it. There is a thing called a constitution that gets in the way of your idea.
    However, the founding fathers did limit the vote to those that were land owners(tax payers). Its what was used to keep a non tax paying majority from voting everythng they wanted from the country's treasury off the backs of the tax paying minority. Madison called it the "tyranntical majority".


    History will prove out, that the current system will fail, and the government will be forced to cut the freebies. That will force scum out to the streets in search of food. If the second amendment is still the law of the land, there numbers will be cut considerably. Makes you wonder about the skills and ability to make a living that people like shue, R&J, CVX have in a dog eat dog world. They might as well be wearing milk bone underwear
    Constitution can be amended to state that those receiving types of assistance are disqualified from voting without violating other articles and amendments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    Constitution can be amended to state that those receiving types of assistance are disqualified from voting without violating other articles and amendments.
    True. voting is not the RIGHT that many think it is. Its a PREVLEDGE! It SHOULD be limited to who can vote and who can't.



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    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

    When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    True. voting is not the RIGHT that many think it is. Its a PREVLEDGE! It SHOULD be limited to who can vote and who can't.



    All below: Benjamin Franklin

    The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.

    I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.


    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

    When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.
    You can also limit rights by making them felonies while on said assistance that the party agrees to the terms when receiving said assistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    You can also limit rights by making them felonies while on said assistance that the party agrees to the terms when receiving said assistance.
    Why are you so hell bent on supporting the scum at the price of civil rights. The teet needs to be shut off, regardless if the leeches can vote or not.
    They would only have the assistance for a short period once they lost the vote. Then the scum would lose their lives.......through civil uprising.
    Why do you think the government is so concerned about an harmed public. They are all that afraid of their own lives, although I think they should be, and maybe some are smart enough to be. But they KNOW the day of reckoning for this failed idea of government assisitance is coming. LBJs war on poverty will fail and the very people he thought he was helping will be the victims. The system will fail, and when it does, its not going to be pretty if there is a well armed public. If they stopped loading EBT cards tomorrow, the military wouldn't be able to control what would happen within a week.
    Like Ben Franklin said, a well armed lamb will determine who eats what.

    Consider this, if the government does not drop the "assisted entitlements" and cut its size and internal spending considerably, the debt under Obama alone, by 2107 will be in the excess of 22 trillion. AND THATS WITH THE CURRENT SEQUESTRATION IN PLACE, CURRENT SPENDING IN DECLINE, AND REVENUES INCREASING, THE FEDERAL DEFICIT WILL STLL BE ON THE RISE!!!!! Now consider just the % of the budget increase the interest on that will take from the ability to fund the assistance. The government was forced to cut 2 rfreekin percent and it caused chaos inside the government. Look at the cry babies talking about furloughs and cuts.
    You think the government is going to default on the interest payments? That would end any chance of borrowing. The U.S. dollar would collapse.
    If they print money to cover the need, it deludes the value of the dollar to shit, and the lenders aren't interested in loaning only to be repaid with monopoly money.

    They will be FORCED at some point to get into the entitlements. When they do, the scum will hit the streets.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    However, the founding fathers did limit the vote to those that were land owners(tax payers). Its what was used to keep a non tax paying majority from voting everythng they wanted from the country's treasury off the backs of the tax paying minority. Madison called it the "tyranntical majority".


    History will prove out, that the current system will fail, and the government will be forced to cut the freebies. That will force scum out to the streets in search of food. If the second amendment is still the law of the land, there numbers will be cut considerably. Makes you wonder about the skills and ability to make a living that people like shue, R&J, CVX have in a dog eat dog world. They might as well be wearing milk bone underwear
    Damn, learn something every day.....how come this stuff wasn't so simple when i was in hs?

    The welfare is reasonable easy to solve, but the fact that it might actually solve a problem is a guarantee it will never be implemented. Reduce every welfare check by $1 a month..$ second month. Can't cut them off cold turkey...the withdrawal pains might cause riots in in the street...less and less money to live on each month would encourage the bums to figure out how to figure out some way to get a job.



    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    Constitution can be amended to state that those receiving types of assistance are disqualified from voting without violating other articles and amendments.
    How much cooperation would you expect to get from congress...
    Although there is some merit to the idea......
    I can't help but wonder how many welfare suckers actually voted.
    It doesn't seem like the type of person who would be colecting welfare would be all that politically motivated....unless acorn was involved and if that was the case it was nothing more than a rigged election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoldHondaBoughtHondo View Post
    Damn, learn something every day.....how come this stuff wasn't so simple when i was in hs?

    The welfare is reasonable easy to solve, but the fact that it might actually solve a problem is a guarantee it will never be implemented. Reduce every welfare check by $1 a month..$ second month. Can't cut them off cold turkey...the withdrawal pains might cause riots in in the street...less and less money to live on each month would encourage the bums to figure out how to figure out some way to get a job.
    No different here SHBH. 4-5 years ago I started looking to see what the founding fathers wrote about the 2nd amendment AT THE TIME. Not what the constitution said, but what the people that wrote it were thinking at the time they wrote it.
    Trust me, the government does not want you reading that stuff. They want you to believe that the 2nd amendment is all about hunting. Believe it or not, very few people hunted for food in 1780s America. The 2nd amnedment has NOTHING AT ALL to do with hunting, and everything about protecting the people from a tyranntical all controlling goverment. Any other bs claim is a smoke screen.

    There is an unbelievable amount written between Jefferson and Madison(who wrote the Bill of Rights) on why the Bill of Rights was actually MORE important than the main body of the constitution. Madison was initailly AGAINST the idea of a Bill of Rights. It was written because there was a very good chance the constitution would not pass radification with the states if they didn't write one. Madison ORIGINALLY thought it was a waste of time. Then somebody asked him if he thought it was just a waste of paper. When he wrote it, it realized it was MORE important to give the people THE POWER TO LIMIT THE GOVERNMENT with laws that COULD NOT be amended against.
    THE CONSTITUION IS MEANINGLESS WITHOUT A HISTORICAL STUDY THAT LEAD UP TO IT, AND THE WRITTINGS OF THE PEOPLE THAT AUTHORED IT.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SoldHondaBoughtHondo View Post
    How much cooperation would you expect to get from congress...
    Although there is some merit to the idea......
    I can't help but wonder how many welfare suckers actually voted.
    It doesn't seem like the type of person who would be colecting welfare would be all that politically motivated....unless acorn was involved and if that was the case it was nothing more than a rigged election
    .
    Don't kid yourself SHBH. If your sole income depended on your voting, would you get off your ass and go vote?



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