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    Default Paging George Orwell. Mr. Orwell to the white paging phone please . . .

    This administration first uses the IRS then the EPA then the DOJ authorizes wire taps on the AP and FOX then obtains medical records and now is obtaining cell phone records to spy on it's own citizens. It's twenty nine years late but George Orwell was dead on with his book 1984 as the Obama administration has brought to pass what was once believed to be science fiction oversight on a nation's citizenry. You limp-wristed liberals owe America an apology for your failed experiment in hope and change. All you have done is divide a nation and bring us closer to civil unrest.

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    Hmmm, nope it was Aldous Huxley and Brave new World that accurately depicted how this would all unfold Orwell thought technology would be our ruin Huxley simply stated that it would be lazyness and
    Neil Postman contrasts the worlds of Nineteen Eighty-Four and Brave New World in the foreword of his 1985 book Amusing Ourselves to Death. He writes:
    What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egotism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions." In 1984, Orwell added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we fear will ruin us. Huxley feared that our desire will ruin us.
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    They have a huge building going in not too far from where I live!!! Supposedly for "cyber security". They just didn't say who they're securing the US from!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPB View Post
    Hmmm, nope it was Aldous Huxley and Brave new World that accurately depicted how this would all unfold Orwell thought technology would be our ruin Huxley simply stated that it would be lazyness and
    Neil Postman contrasts the worlds of Nineteen Eighty-Four and Brave New World in the foreword of his 1985 book Amusing Ourselves to Death. He writes:
    What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egotism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions." In 1984, Orwell added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we fear will ruin us. Huxley feared that our desire will ruin us.
    Yep. I see it everyday. First people were more interested in anything but what Washington was up to because they felt they had no control over it. Now they turn on Danicing with the stars to escape from hearing the doom and gloom in the news. I bet the libbies like CVX, R&J, shue and 1986 are even paying attention to any of this. They don't give a shit. Most americans right now would probably groan at the idea of an empeachemnt. They would rather hear what Justin Bieber had for dinner last night and with who.

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    They have a huge building going in not too far from where I live!!! Supposedly for "cyber security". They just didn't say who they're securing the US from!!
    That building will be capable of storing the numbers(both) phone call, duration, and location of both phones, every single electronic finacial transation in the country, every ATM, credit card, EBT, both the person and the business, every deposit and withdrawl, loan and payment. Just for starters.



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    During the quoted interview the interviewer interjected the fact that she was talking about the 501 C 4 organization Zero has formed. While he certainly is overstepping the needs for data collection and has been targeting conservative groups, it appears this conversation was about the Money Machine he has created and is clearly indebted to. Her comments that any Democratic candidate would have to answer to the organization makes it perfectly clear to me that she was talking about the money behind the actions of president. There is a secret, not so secret, money tree that zero swings from. He is their puppet and hopefully if he keeps swinging, he'll get tangled up in the strings and hang himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snoc653 View Post
    During the quoted interview the interviewer interjected the fact that she was talking about the 501 C 4 organization Zero has formed. While he certainly is overstepping the needs for data collection and has been targeting conservative groups, it appears this conversation was about the Money Machine he has created and is clearly indebted to. Her comments that any Democratic candidate would have to answer to the organization makes it perfectly clear to me that she was talking about the money behind the actions of president. There is a secret, not so secret, money tree that zero swings from. He is their puppet and hopefully if he keeps swinging, he'll get tangled up in the strings and hang himself.
    And you don't think he's using the data collected by the NSA for his own use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoc653 View Post
    During the quoted interview the interviewer interjected the fact that she was talking about the 501 C 4 organization Zero has formed. While he certainly is overstepping the needs for data collection and has been targeting conservative groups, it appears this conversation was about the Money Machine he has created and is clearly indebted to. Her comments that any Democratic candidate would have to answer to the organization makes it perfectly clear to me that she was talking about the money behind the actions of president. There is a secret, not so secret, money tree that zero swings from. He is their puppet and hopefully if he keeps swinging, he'll get tangled up in the strings and hang himself.
    And ALL that INTEL he and his tax exempt money machine aquired, he did on the tax payers dime.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Yep. I see it everyday. First people were more interested in anything but what Washington was up to because they felt they had no control over it. Now they turn on Danicing with the stars to escape from hearing the doom and gloom in the news. I bet the libbies like CVX, R&J, shue and 1986 are even paying attention to any of this. They don't give a shit. Most americans right now would probably groan at the idea of an empeachemnt. They would rather hear what Justin Bieber had for dinner last night and with who.



    That building will be capable of storing the numbers(both) phone call, duration, and location of both phones, every single electronic finacial transation in the country, every ATM, credit card, EBT, both the person and the business, every deposit and withdrawl, loan and payment. Just for starters.
    While all the other "spying" will be happening, I doubt obama cares about the EBT people... They're primarily HIS people, and he'll be looking the other way when it comes to the EBT use/mis use/fraud... He certainly doesn't want to disrupt the "freebie train" and piss off the libtard voters that put him where he is.... Sure, he's done as POTUS, unless you look ahead to 2020 when he tries for 8 more years, but he has to look out for the other libtards running for office in 2014/2016... "Ol Spookie dude" Soros will most likely be dead by then, but obama's "entitlement" socialist leaning machine will still need lubing so he can't mess with the EBT fraud/mis use issues.... Hell, he wouldn't even care if it was proven to be domestic terrorists using them to trade for explosives...
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    This administration first uses the IRS then the EPA then the DOJ authorizes wire taps on the AP and FOX then obtains medical records and now is obtaining cell phone records to spy on it's own citizens. It's twenty nine years late but George Orwell was dead on with his book 1984 as the Obama administration has brought to pass what was once believed to be science fiction oversight on a nation's citizenry. You limp-wristed liberals owe America an apology for your failed experiment in hope and change. All you have done is divide a nation and bring us closer to civil unrest.

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    Despite what they are saying about collecting conversations, just heard a former NSA chief talking on what exactly they are collecting. It's a lie. They SPECIFICALLY collect content. The data mining technology and surveillance they have is so advanced, that they can zip in and out servers undetected. If you're on the cloud, all the easier.

    So what happens when all the elements of this police state are in place? Systematically round up all the "law breaking" domestic terrorists, political disenters and throw them in internment camps. Oh, what? You're crazy. That would never happen. This is America!

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    The only question I have is, how are they going to detain more than 40% of the US? 55% would be against this administration, figure that at least 15% of them would cower. You still have more than 50% of the military and police that wouldn't go along. The border patrol and immigration are already against him. When it comes to something like this, the UN forces that have any strength are made of of US troops. The Germans wouldn't go along, and the French, well we'll leave them out. That would leave China and Russian troops in the UN. Can you say Red Dawn???
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
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    The only question I have is, how are they going to detain more than 40% of the US? 55% would be against this administration, figure that at least 15% of them would cower. You still have more than 50% of the military and police that wouldn't go along. The border patrol and immigration are already against him. When it comes to something like this, the UN forces that have any strength are made of of US troops. The Germans wouldn't go along, and the French, well we'll leave them out. That would leave China and Russian troops in the UN. Can you say Red Dawn???
    You would be surprised how many and how fast those you think would resist will cave and submit when they see others disappear never to return, When they storm your neighbor's house and haul them off. People start telling themselves they don't want to do what ever that guy did.

    Resistance may mean abandoning everything you own that you can't take with you and absolutely need, and hope its there after its over. You won't be able to go about your daily life as usual and not comply.



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