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    Okay guys....this is real world and really happening at this very moment.

    My Neighbor George is a retired 26 year Army Veteran who has two purple hearts from Vietnam. He's 74 years old and has heart problems. The other day his cardiologist "scoped" his heart to look at a blockage and discovered that the blockage is in a spot that he is unable to install a stint in...due to it's proximity. So the next option is to put in a pacemaker. Well he was all set to have it put in today...the doctor came into his room last night and told George that Medicare will not pay for the pacemaker he needs....the cost is about $60,000 for the device.

    The family and I are devastated as the Gov't just handed George a death sentence. When Sarah Palin and others were talking about "Death Panels" a few years ago, they weren't kidding. The government is sitting back in an office, diagnosing the patients instead of the actual patients doctor himself. George is coming home tomorrow with a handful of different meds in hopes that his heart will grow stronger. We all know that it's just a matter of time now before George dies.....

    This is the future of ALL healthcare in America...
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    Isn't that just about right. How about it cvx, RnJ, and the rest of you obamites. I thought this wasn't suppose to happen.

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    Interesting he's NOT using his VA medical benefits... He's would be covered completely...

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    Sad deal thats for sure.
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    Im not saying that OBAMACARE and his goon squad havent already sent healthcare as we know it into a tailspin BUT......

    I suggest George seek a second opinion... Living with a family that has major Coronary Artery Disease issues I know that just about ANY repair you can imagine is possible... Maybe with a different doc or different hospital...

    Also a pacemaker wouldn't cure or mask the issues related to a blockage... I don't think...

    Dig deeper and ask George more questions, maybe he is not telling the WHOLE story...???

    Thank George for his long service please...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shueman View Post
    Interesting he's NOT using his VA medical benefits... He's would be covered completely...
    At 74, Tricare boots veterans off to Medicare once they are eligible
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manymustangs View Post
    Im not saying that OBAMACARE and his goon squad havent already sent healthcare as we know it into a tailspin BUT......

    I suggest George seek a second opinion... Living with a family that has major Coronary Artery Disease issues I know that just about ANY repair you can imagine is possible... Maybe with a different doc or different hospital...

    Also a pacemaker wouldn't cure or mask the issues related to a blockage... I don't think...

    Dig deeper and ask George more questions, maybe he is not telling the WHOLE story...???

    Thank George for his long service please...
    George is using one of the best cardiac surgeons in the DFW area.....

    George's heart is weak...only 23% efficient?? Not sure what that means....
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    Quote Originally Posted by '78 Crusader View Post
    George is using one of the best cardiac surgeons in the DFW area.....

    George's heart is weak...only 23% efficient?? Not sure what that means....
    If there is muscle damage and the heart can't beat properly from the damage that may be the reason for the pacemaker. I think that would be a separate issue from the blockage.


    It really is amazing, it would blow your mind to know how some of the procedures can be done these days...

    EXAMPLE: my mom had kidney issues due to a blockage that feeds blood to her kidneys (this is after a five way bypass about 10 years ago)... THe doctors went into her ARM, up to her shoulder, down to her heart, through her heart and down to the blockage between her heart/kidney. Opened up the blockage and put in the stent... All of this was done in a matter of 45 minutes or so and nearly was outpatient... She was held overnight and released the next day after observation...

    ALL through her arm, rather than her groin artery...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shueman View Post
    Interesting he's NOT using his VA medical benefits... He's would be covered completely...
    Typical inaccurate response from someone that know only what a book or MSNBC tells him. No real world. My father was a DAV and got booted once he went onto medicare. Luckily he also had supplemental insurance. You fools don't realize that supplemental will be the new insurance. So you idiots will not only increase the costs or regular insurance, but will now require a supplemental to pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    Typical inaccurate response from someone that know only what a book or MSNBC tells him. No real world. My father was a DAV and got booted once he went onto medicare. Luckily he also had supplemental insurance. You fools don't realize that supplemental will be the new insurance. So you idiots will not only increase the costs or regular insurance, but will now require a supplemental to pay for.
    Thanks Wolfie..

    This whole ordeal is really taking it's toll on his and my family..... George is the dad I didn't have......great man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shueman View Post
    Interesting he's NOT using his VA medical benefits... He's would be covered completely...
    Thank you shue. You just showed how you could be so fucking blind, so fucking ignorant, that it is no wonder you would vote for the biggest anti American socialistic POTUS in the country's history. You are in good company though. There is no shortage of morons just like you. Right CVX, R&J?

    Painfully obvious nobody in your family served in your savior LBJ's fiasco. The father of your blessed welfare system, and nobody in your family helped the asshat to preserve his socialist agenda? Right CVX?

    And you dipshits claim to be INFORMED voters. You're no different than all the other uneducated welfare leeches.



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    Quote Originally Posted by '78 Crusader View Post
    Thanks Wolfie..

    This whole ordeal is really taking it's toll on his and my family..... George is the dad I didn't have......great man.
    Sorry sir... hang in there...
    Last edited by 2manymustangs; 07-10-2013 at 12:47 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shueman View Post
    Interesting he's NOT using his VA medical benefits... He's would be covered completely...

    What a ass hat you are. The sad thing is you actually vote and have no Idea. f'n socialist

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    The point is this, all of the government HC plans (im sure the congressional plan and the POTUS's plan is an exception here) as well as PRIVATE plans are tightening up in anticipation of the OLAMEOcare that is coming down the pike at us...

    I have seen it with my parents and their medicare (with their AT&T retirement suplement), my elderly relatives, my brother that passed away last September (navy vet), my inlaws with Kaiser, ANDDDDDD worst of all, in my OWN premium PRIVATELY purchased HC that comes right out of MY pocket...

    THe insurance companies, and gubment HC plans are tightening up BIGTIME, don't believe me just look no further than the OP... THAT situation is a perfect example...

    Simple tests that you would thing would be ROUTINE when you go in for an issue are no longer ROUTINE... My G.P. refuses stuff now that 10 years ago was done as a formality... I see this every time I go somewhere and ask a few questions of my G.P. or the N.P. or the nurse...

    Costs are going UP UP UP UP and services are going DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN...

    WHY??? Bcuz the LAME one made it his holy grail to FUCK with HC... Bottom line...
    Last edited by 2manymustangs; 07-10-2013 at 01:15 PM.
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