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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    Here is why.

    They eliminate the prime candidates. WHAT can be done to stop that?? ABC, etc know no bounds to how low they will go.

    I would NOT call Romney a "piece of shit" by any stretch...not even close. Mormon or not, means nothing to me.

    I WOULD, however call O a MAJOR POS, even an "Enemy of this Nation".

    You do see that you did exactly what they counted on you doing...right?

    They eliminated Cain, Santorum, Paul and Perry (A couple of them would have been my first choice), then exploited Romney as a religious zealot with a personal agenda.

    You either bought into that...or believed it as well on your own.

    So, you threw away a vote, exactly what they planned on.

    (Truth is, I live in CA also, so...well...you know ...what can we do?)

    BUT, the mindset that you describe holding to happens Nationwide, and behold the results.

    You helped put O in office, an blaming the GOP is on page 1 of the handbook, right or wrong.

    I don't think we have the luxery of having things unfold in the future as you describe.
    I'd LIKE to think so, as you do, but I think the cliff is WAY to near to see the resolutions you describe...besides outright revolt and even civil war..which would lead very quickly to stage 2 of the manifesto...complete marshall law.
    Mormon means nothing to me, but he wasn't the best candidate any anyone's mind that I knew except those blinded by religion.

    I lived in FL during the 2007 elections. I did everything in my power to not have Obama win, but he did.

    I don't see the GOP as an organization trying to change election laws for nominees, do you?

    They know the system is now compromised because it's been recently realized what kind of impact the other side can do towards the nomination.

    Why haven't they tried to make changes yet?

    Luxury or not, the status quo leads to the same path. Especially with the GOP electing spineless representatives and without having a clear concise message and agenda. They let the media mold them into a quasi Democratic party. It's pathetic.

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    Icy, I agree with your conservative ideology. I also agree that the republican party leadership is worthless and a bunch of sell outs. What I don't agree with you on is how you fight to try and make things better. Chances of us seeing a true conservative candidate make it through the primaries to become the presidential nomination for 2016 are thin at best I think. Changing the system, if that's possible, is going to come from the bottom up. We need to start at the lowest levels of elected officials and bring in true conservatives. By holding your nose and voting Republican in the presidential election is the only way to slow the erosion of our country until true conservatives can rise through the process into leadership positions. Splitting the vote by voting 3rd party is just as good as voting Democrat. You may think that's your way to rage against the machine, but you're just lubing the gears of socialism. I know you've been told all this many times before, and I'm sure it will fall on deaf ears again, but the attitude of they either do it to my liking or fuck 'em, only fucks us all, thank you very much.

    At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter anyway. Our government has become so corrupted by lobbyists and special interest groups that a true conservative ideologue can't survive anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    Mormon means nothing to me, but he wasn't the best candidate any anyone's mind that I knew except those blinded by religion.

    I lived in FL during the 2007 elections. I did everything in my power to not have Obama win, but he did.

    I don't see the GOP as an organization trying to change election laws for nominees, do you?

    They know the system is now compromised because it's been recently realized what kind of impact the other side can do towards the nomination.

    Why haven't they tried to make changes yet?

    Luxury or not, the status quo leads to the same path. Especially with the GOP electing spineless representatives and without having a clear concise message and agenda. They let the media mold them into a quasi Democratic party. It's pathetic.
    Well I can certainly agree with that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICECREAMAN View Post
    Icy, I agree with your conservative ideology. I also agree that the republican party leadership is worthless and a bunch of sell outs. What I don't agree with you on is how you fight to try and make things better. Chances of us seeing a true conservative candidate make it through the primaries to become the presidential nomination for 2016 are thin at best I think. Changing the system, if that's possible, is going to come from the bottom up. We need to start at the lowest levels of elected officials and bring in true conservatives. By holding your nose and voting Republican in the presidential election is the only way to slow the erosion of our country until true conservatives can rise through the process into leadership positions. Splitting the vote by voting 3rd party is just as good as voting Democrat. You may think that's your way to rage against the machine, but you're just lubing the gears of socialism. I know you've been told all this many times before, and I'm sure it will fall on deaf ears again, but the attitude of they either do it to my liking or fuck 'em, only fucks us all, thank you very much.

    At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter anyway. Our government has become so corrupted by lobbyists and special interest groups that a true conservative ideologue can't survive anyway.

    THIS is what I am trying to say exactly. ^^^^^^^^^^^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    I'm not going to spend my life voting for the lesser of the evils. The system will crumble if people don't get a clue and voting 3rd party may eventually make those parties relevant. See the UK for an example.
    Many a man has died on principles and left nothing to salvage......If O-Care is not revoked, there will be nothing short of armed revolution to stop the fall. I won't chance that unless the 3rd Party can win. Too much at stake.
    "Bottle by bottle, I'm clearing off that shelf...."

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