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    Feds are claiming that they might have to reduce social security payments. I didn't give billions of our dollars away to countries that don't even like us, so where's MY money? These dick wads think that we Americans are going to put up with this bullshit, it was a loan and pay back is now REQUIRED, what would you do if some dumb shit pulled this crap about paying back money loaned to them by you. I think it's getting to be about time to start beating some asses for blowing OUR money. What say you?
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    .....And you know the one's that have contributed to the system the least, or not at all will still get theirs. The middle class again will be the ones on the receiving end of dick.

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    The short answers is your peers and possibly yourself voted for individuals that were okay with policy that allowed for the spending of it for general fund purposes for decades. Many Republicans were okay with this policy, so don't say you didn't.

    At least you'll collect something. For me, it's just a tax that I will never see because of the reason stated above.

    Just think of what my employer could be paying me if they didn't have to pay this tax and how much disposable income I'd have if I didn't have to pay my share of the tax out of my pocket. My local economy would have a lot more dollars flowing through it or if I saved every dime of it from the time I started working to when I'd retire, I'd have 4.070 million dollars if I never get another raise. Instead, I'll have zero of that money. Good thing the government is here to help.
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    Mean while the welfare slugs are eating high on the hog. Welfare never runs out of money.
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    Hey, we all have to make sacrafices..... obama wants to send Central America $250M+ to help them keep their citizens home??? First the SOB sends them an open invitation to send their kids to America where senile Harry and oblamo created the "dream" of citizenship for kids. Now that thousands of them have taken up the invitation, he wants to give away money to stop them.... This asshat has to go, lock and load long, round shiny objects....
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    Interesting dilemma, Feds mismanaged and abused social security and now it is under funded so they might have to make changes and reduce payments. Sounds similar to the public pension problem scenario. I do feel that anyone that paid their share into social security deserves to be paid back when they qualify and retire and it should be at the rate they were promised it would be not lower but yes, tax payers may end up paying for this one also much like some public pension problems as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavey29 View Post
    Interesting dilemma, Feds mismanaged and abused social security and now it is under funded so they might have to make changes and reduce payments. Sounds similar to the public pension problem scenario. I do feel that anyone that paid their share into social security deserves to be paid back when they qualify and retire and it should be at the rate they were promised it would be not lower but yes, tax payers may end up paying for this one also much like some public pension problems as well.
    So the old people who voted for politicians that promised them things that they can't afford based on the promise being too expensive and the policy being poor should be entitled to the full promise paid for by their children and grand children.

    Interesting logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    So the old people who voted for politicians that promised them things that they can't afford based on the promise being too expensive and the policy being poor should be entitled to the full promise paid for by their children and grand children.

    Interesting logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    A deal is a fucking deal, preppie!
    Have you seen Greece lately?

    You guys are conservative up to the point you don't get the gravy. Letting my generation and your kids pay for it and get nothing out of it is perfectly fine with you as long as you get your gravy.

    Pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    Have you seen Greece lately?

    You guys are conservative up to the point you don't get the gravy. Letting my generation and your kids pay for it and get nothing out of it is perfectly fine with you as long as you get your gravy.

    Pathetic.
    Would you care to post up a list of conservatives in the house and/or senate past or present from the last 25 years that ran on a platform of, "I intend to fuck the Social Security system as hard and as often as I can, tough shit to the next generations!"
    Your assertion that just because we may be older than 35, we've willing voted for corruption is utter BULLSHIT! You have no idea what my voting record is, or anybody else. I can assure you I've always voted for the most fiscally conservative candidate possible. And don't think this is anything new talking about SS running out before "I get mine". I've been hearing that as long as I can remember. I just never felt compelled to blame every American who came before me. Maybe you can start at home. Next time you see your dad, feel free to kick him squarely in the nut's and say, That's for fucking up my Social Security, thanks mom and dad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    Have you seen Greece lately?

    You guys are conservative up to the point you don't get the gravy. Letting my generation and your kids pay for it and get nothing out of it is perfectly fine with you as long as you get your gravy.

    Pathetic.
    You are young and dumb and to add, inexperienced. So I'll give you a bit of a break. I've been paying in since I was 16. I have been paying for others that are on the system for 35 damn years. Plus what I pay in to FICA. Why in the hell do you think you should be immune? Because you are "educated"? The next generation? Why???

    The system and the plan behind it was workable at one time. That is until the liberal politicians got their hands in the pot.

    I wonder how many retired politicians are receiving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICECREAMAN View Post
    Would you care to post up a list of conservatives in the house and/or senate past or present from the last 25 years that ran on a platform of, "I intend to fuck the Social Security system as hard and as often as I can, tough shit to the next generations!"
    Your assertion that just because we may be older than 35, we've willing voted for corruption is utter BULLSHIT! You have no idea what my voting record is, or anybody else. I can assure you I've always voted for the most fiscally conservative candidate possible. And don't think this is anything new talking about SS running out before "I get mine". I've been hearing that as long as I can remember. I just never felt compelled to blame every American who came before me. Maybe you can start at home. Next time you see your dad, feel free to kick him squarely in the nut's and say, That's for fucking up my Social Security, thanks mom and dad!
    Nearly every candidate that has been voted in submitted and voted for legislation to fuck social security. It's not my fault you were too dumb to vote for them. Yet, you want everyone to pay for your mistakes. How is this any different then you paying 600k for retired firemen? How is this an different then the taxpayers bailing out their fund when it goes broke? It's not, but because it affects YOU, you cry about it.

    Pretty sure I already expressed my feelings on this to my friends and family. I don't call it "My" social Security. I don't want the shit. I don't want to pay the shit. I don't want to participate in the shit.

    Lastly, the "most fiscally conservative" is often 3rd party. I'm glad I'm not alone voting for these folks when justified, who deserve to represent Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forkin' Crazy View Post
    You are young and dumb and to add, inexperienced. So I'll give you a bit of a break. I've been paying in since I was 16. I have been paying for others that are on the system for 35 damn years. Plus what I pay in to FICA. Why in the hell do you think you should be immune? Because you are "educated"? The next generation? Why???

    The system and the plan behind it was workable at one time. That is until the liberal politicians got their hands in the pot.

    I wonder how many retired politicians are receiving it.

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    It was more than just liberal politicians.

    I don't know who is "educated" and who isn't here. We are all on the same page, tax paying Americans. As far as I know, you could have many of the available degrees in agriculture, I don't know what you have. I really don't care about education as long as you know how to do what your job is. I have a B.S. with no intention to ever advance from there as I see it pointless. I'd rather be the employer of people with degrees and without, than have a doctorate myself. I would rate that as being more successful than someone who has any type of degree or many degrees.

    I too, have been paying in it since I was 16, with a 3 year break during college. So why do you think that I, and my generation should pay for a broken system that they will never see a benefit from? A system broken during your reign as voters? As system you watched get taken raped and pillaged and did nothing about? That part, I just don't understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    Nearly every candidate that has been voted in submitted and voted for legislation to fuck social security. It's not my fault you were too dumb to vote for them. Yet, you want everyone to pay for your mistakes. How is this any different then you paying 600k for retired firemen? How is this an different then the taxpayers bailing out their fund when it goes broke? It's not, but because it affects YOU, you cry about it.

    Pretty sure I already expressed my feelings on this to my friends and family. I don't call it "My" social Security. I don't want the shit. I don't want to pay the shit. I don't want to participate in the shit.

    Lastly, the "most fiscally conservative" is often 3rd party. I'm glad I'm not alone voting for these folks when justified, who deserve to represent Americans.
    I asked for a list of who campaigned on fucking SS, not ones who once elected voted for status quo. So since I'm to dumb, and not a mind reader and i can't see into a persons sole, I am only capable of voting for what I believe their character to be. Also, I'm only allowed to vote for candidates actually on the ballot, that kind of limits the options. You assume I condone the raping of SS, and want everyone else to pay for my supposed ignorance. How omnipotent of you!
    You think anyone her WANTS to pay into this crooked ass system? You think most of us who have paid into the system for much longer than you have will see all the money we've contributed if any? Every time a subject like this comes up, you're the one that whines like a 3 year old who dropped his sucker. Feel free to grab your degree and find a new place to sell your talents where all you make, you get to keep. I hear the middle east economy is popping and engineers are in high demand.

    And for the record, my pet peeve of the wasting of my tax dollars is for all the sacks of shit that feel they deserve to sit home, pop out babies, get wasted, and live off MY tax dollars, (welfare, disability,etc) instead of paying their way like the rest of us. That one I'll admit to be a cry baby about!

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