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    With the newest revelation about Hillary and the emails that were "beyond top secret" got me thinking. Regardless of what a lot of us think of Bill he would have gone down in history (besides being a whore) as a positive president. I don't think it would be on the level of Lincoln or anything but a 100 years from now he would have got a rosy paragraph about his admin in their version of Wikipedia.
    Now, if Hillary is indicted ... or even worse .... convicted .... all is lost. Everything that they have been accused of in the past will fill the history books. Obama (beside everything else) also will be known for having her in his first admin and all she did when there. This one woman can destroy the legacy of two presidents and the democratic party (cause DWS is in deep also) for the last 30 years. They (Billy and Hillary) was so close. They are old. Bill would have been looked on as a positive pres and she would have been the former first lady, etc, etc. Their legacy would have been cleaned up and set and they were also guaranteed to be rich after they left office and all that was just not good enough at their age.
    I wonder how Bill feels now? He went through his wars even if some were his own making and had to think that he was going to coast at this point in his life. If she is charged there is no clean up that will fix it.
    Just so close ....
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    I really don't see anything happening. The GOP has no balls. Lost my faith in Gowdey.
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    I really don't see anything happening. The GOP has no balls. Lost my faith in Gowdey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by f_inscreenname View Post
    With the newest revelation about Hillary and the emails that were "beyond top secret" got me thinking. Regardless of what a lot of us think of Bill he would have gone down in history (besides being a whore) as a positive president. I don't think it would be on the level of Lincoln or anything but a 100 years from now he would have got a rosy paragraph about his admin in their version of Wikipedia.
    Now, if Hillary is indicted ... or even worse .... convicted .... all is lost. Everything that they have been accused of in the past will fill the history books. Obama (beside everything else) also will be known for having her in his first admin and all she did when there. This one woman can destroy the legacy of two presidents and the democratic party (cause DWS is in deep also) for the last 30 years. They (Billy and Hillary) was so close. They are old. Bill would have been looked on as a positive pres and she would have been the former first lady, etc, etc. Their legacy would have been cleaned up and set and they were also guaranteed to be rich after they left office and all that was just not good enough at their age.
    I wonder how Bill feels now? He went through his wars even if some were his own making and had to think that he was going to coast at this point in his life. If she is charged there is no clean up that will fix it.
    Just so close ....
    Here is a twist. For decades the Democratic party has been owned by the Clinton's. Obama literally snatched it out of their hands in 2008 and the feud began. Insiders agree and claim that Barrack and Hillary have "come to blows" of anger on several occasions. King Obama now believes he has fought and won and he is the rightful "new owner" of the Democratic Party and as he has recently eluded, he wants to further extend HIS LEGACY by staying in that "spotlight" after his term. Therefore, he may not so willing to "hand back" the spoils of his political successes over to Hillary. If there is any substance to this theory, Hillary is TOAST as Obama will turn the DOJ loose and this may be the one and only time he "seeks justice" only for the purposes of retaining party ownership as he waves his new flag of "righteousness" which he will color and bury Hillary with his false rhetoric of disappointment.
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    Obama's legacy is clear:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forkin' Crazy View Post
    I really don't see anything happening. The GOP has no balls. Lost my faith in Gowdey.
    HRC is not going down unless the Obama DOJ and Obama "sign off" on it. Don't hold your breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    Obama's legacy is clear:

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    Here's a partial list of Obama's grand accomplishments:

    First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
    First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
    First President to preside over a cut to the credit rating of the United States .
    First President to violate the War Powers Act.
    First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico .
    First President to defy a Federal Judges court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.
    First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
    First President to spend a trillion dollars on shovel-ready jobs and later admit there was no such thing as shovel-ready jobs.
    First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
    First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
    First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with cr imi nal convictions.
    First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
    First President to terminate Americas ability to put a man in space.
    First President to encourage racial discrimination and intimidation at polling places.
    First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
    First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
    First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly speak-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
    First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state they are allowed to locate a factory.
    First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (Az, WI, OH, IN)
    First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
    First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
    First President to appoint 45 Czars to replace elected officials in his office.
    First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office.
    First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
    First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
    First President to coddle American enemies while alienating Americas allies.
    First President to publicly bow to Americas enemies while refusing to salute the U.S. Flag.
    First President to go on multiple global apology tours.
    First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends, paid for
    by the taxpayer.
    First President to refuse to wear the U.S. Flag lapel pin.
    First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.
    First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000.00 a year at taxpayer expense.
    First President to repeat “the Holy Qur’an tells us,” and openly admit “the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.”
    Remember that 32 months of Obama White House we the people have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast as during the rest of our nation’s entire history, as the Obama’s plan their next extravagant vacation to the Indonesian Island nation of Bali.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the doctor View Post
    here's a partial list of obama's grand accomplishments:

    First president to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
    First president to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
    First president to preside over a cut to the credit rating of the united states .
    First president to violate the war powers act.
    First president to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the gulf of mexico .
    First president to defy a federal judges court order to cease implementing the health care reform law.
    First president to require all americans to purchase a product from a third party.
    First president to spend a trillion dollars on shovel-ready jobs and later admit there was no such thing as shovel-ready jobs.
    First president to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
    First president to by-pass congress and implement the dream act through executive fiat.
    First president to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the u.s. , including those with cr imi nal convictions.
    First president to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
    First president to terminate americas ability to put a man in space.
    First president to encourage racial discrimination and intimidation at polling places.
    First president to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
    First president to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
    First president to threaten insurance companies if they publicly speak-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
    First president to tell a major manufacturing company in which state they are allowed to locate a factory.
    First president to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (az, wi, oh, in)
    first president to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
    First president to fire an inspector general of ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
    First president to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
    First president to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office.
    First president to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
    First president to win a nobel peace prize for doing nothing to earn it.
    First president to coddle american enemies while alienating americas allies.
    First president to publicly bow to americas enemies while refusing to salute the u.s. Flag.
    First president to go on multiple global apology tours.
    First president to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and wednesday evening white house parties for his friends, paid for
    by the taxpayer.
    First president to refuse to wear the u.s. Flag lapel pin.
    First president to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.
    First president to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000.00 a year at taxpayer expense.
    First president to repeat “the holy qur’an tells us,” and openly admit “the early morning call of the azan (islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.”
    remember that 32 months of obama white house we the people have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast as during the rest of our nation’s entire history, as the obama’s plan their next extravagant vacation to the indonesian island nation of bali.

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    Regardless of accomplishments or not to us policy wonks. Like I said Bill had his issues. Even with him being a whore (look at JFK) they would have cleaned up his legacy with some rose colored glasses enough to get him on the good side of history. He went from a Arkansas bumpkin to a POTUS, is rich (a couple books would have set them for life), was pretty much forgiven for his past ... issues. Just because Hillary had to get greedy and go for the second, third, forth brass ring everything could be lost and you know there is no real love between the two. More like business partners. Bill is now 70 years old having to answer or deflect questions about what happened decades ago. I can hear him now ... Mother F_er, I was just sitting back minding my own business, styling and profiling while she was all up in everyone's else's business. Then she had to go and fuck it all up because she is to lazy to use 2 email addresses????
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    If you sleep with dogs you are going to get flees.As far as his legacy he doesn't have much to lose.They deserve each other.
    What is freaking me out is after knowing all this there are many people out there that think "Hillary for president"yea that sounds like a good Idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by f_inscreenname View Post
    .....Then she had to go and fuck it all up because she is to lazy to use 2 email addresses????
    IMO, the private email servers was due more to "hiding "their" new found revenue sources and controlling information" rather than laziness. Granted she is incompetent (Benghazi), but this bitch's cronyism, greed, and dishonesty are the culprits that drives her behavior..... nothing more

    In light of the most recent email server discoveries consisting of the "highest and secret levels of security" I am still of the opinion she will "go down" at the jealous hands of her old friend Barrack.


    ‘Call off your f- -king dogs!’ Hillary rages to Obama
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNiC View Post
    IMO, the private email servers was due more to "hiding "their" new found revenue sources and controlling information" rather than laziness. Granted she is incompetent (Benghazi), but this bitch's cronyism, greed, and dishonesty are the culprits that drives her behavior..... nothing more

    In light of the most recent email server discoveries consisting of the "highest and secret levels of security" I am still of the opinion she will "go down" at the jealous hands of her old friend Barrack.


    ‘Call off your f- -king dogs!’ Hillary rages to Obama

    I know what you are saying. But again it was lazy. A gov issued blackberry for what ever GOV wanted to send and a iphone for everyone else. She could have got weather updates and other BS on her blackberry and never used it but was to lazy to use two phones to cover her tracks. When you are up to no good you should always have an alibi and like a kid that hands in a report they plagiarized when the teacher asked for the research material she had nothing to hand in. If she used a blackberry (filled with BS) she would have something to hand in and the trail would have ended and it all would be over. Even the old time gangsters had two sets of books. For the possible million upon millions of dollars that could be involved she was very lazy. If she was part of the Vegas mob she would have already been sleeping in the desert and a new dummy head would be in her place.
    Just a couple years ago they were Darlings of the Democratic party. Hell, Bill was even hanging out with George. If she is not the next POTUS they will all fall with her because she was to lazy to carry a second phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by f_inscreenname View Post
    I know what you are saying. But again it was lazy. A gov issued blackberry for what ever GOV wanted to send and a iphone for everyone else. She could have got weather updates and other BS on her blackberry and never used it but was to lazy to use two phones to cover her tracks. When you are up to no good you should always have an alibi and like a kid that hands in a report they plagiarized when the teacher asked for the research material she had nothing to hand in. If she used a blackberry (filled with BS) she would have something to hand in and the trail would have ended and it all would be over. Even the old time gangsters had two sets of books. For the possible million upon millions of dollars that could be involved she was very lazy. If she was part of the Vegas mob she would have already been sleeping in the desert and a new dummy head would be in her place.
    Just a couple years ago they were Darlings of the Democratic party. Hell, Bill was even hanging out with George. If she is not the next POTUS they will all fall with her because she was to lazy to carry a second phone.
    I see your point. Lazy, incompetence, with a heaping cup of arrogance is a recipe for disaster. And guess who reaps the spoils.... We the People!
    If this scandal does not take her out, get ready for President Hillary.



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