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    so now im buying a maga hat..

    9:20 right out of bernie's playbook.. thats how U get berners excited

    he is being hypocritical about the dems being obstructionists.. but w/e its politics..
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    Ok Now I have a complaint about trump..

    #campaignpromises #afganistan

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    Playing golf, taking vacations, excessive secret service costs....Although Obama was very bad at this......Trump is a good "christian" "conservative" (hahaha) and so all of this is A-OK for him to do.

    The Hypocrisy of the hyper-right is simply incredible....How do they keep a straight face when they are complaining about the left yet giving the right a by....is just flabbergasting....

    Hey, remember when Chumpy the Putin-puppet said he was going to build the wall with money from Mexico? Now he is going to crash the federal govt' to force congress to PAY for the wall.....I guess it's ok as long as the Oil Oligarchies don't have to pay, right?

    Major Hyper-right points; 1) The oil industry is why we fight- hurry! Send your children to die for oil profits!
    2) No rich person should have to EVER pay ANY taxes- See, that way, 95% of US income is not taxed!
    3) We are not friendly to any other country- unless they kowtow to our every whim...
    4) Christians are the chosen people- So everyone else should switch or be subservient.
    5) There has been NO change in the basic conditions of the US- So we should not have any laws except what we had in 1776...And if you don't like your local govt'....do just as they did in the 17-18 hundreds...Head west! (Start swimming!)(Nothing (Glub-glub) has changed!)

    The Putin/Rupert FAUX news brain-washing train is heading down the tracks....(Remember; Putin may assassinate people left and right, might have gamed the system to allow him to become dictator-for-life of Russia (And hoping the world!)...But he is a great guy, a good Christian, and a real Man's man, who goes a-huntin' and a-fishin'...The Hyper-cons are just waiting for Chumpy to hand over control- No more elections needed!)

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    I really feel sorry for you, cvx. You have to overlook so much to come up with your twelve year old "I hate Cheney" BS and paste it on Trump.
    Why not:
    * Explain to us all how it's bad that he finally had the national debt going down for the first time in a century?
    * Tell us all the details of how a strong stock market hurts the citizens of our nation.
    * Give us the details of how the creation of well over a million new jobs since his inauguration has been bad for America.
    * Show us all how American energy production has been ramped up to levels never before seen is bad for our economy.
    * Explain how rich people are being further relieved of income tax obligations, as you say.
    * Demonstrate to us where Trump didn't say "ALL AMERICANS" a dozen times in Phoenix and how he only favors Christians?
    * Explain where he's proposed no more elections (not obama, we saw plenty of that) but Trump proposing such, as you say.

    No pal, you may be the most bitter little man left on earth and your constant whining about things that are not happening are nothing short of amusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    I really feel sorry for you, cvx. You have to overlook so much to come up with your twelve year old "I hate Cheney" BS and paste it on Trump.
    Why not:
    * Explain to us all how it's bad that he finally had the national debt going down for the first time in a century?
    * Tell us all the details of how a strong stock market hurts the citizens of our nation.
    * Give us the details of how the creation of well over a million new jobs since his inauguration has been bad for America.
    * Show us all how American energy production has been ramped up to levels never before seen is bad for our economy.
    * Explain how rich people are being further relieved of income tax obligations, as you say.
    * Demonstrate to us where Trump didn't say "ALL AMERICANS" a dozen times in Phoenix and how he only favors Christians?
    * Explain where he's proposed no more elections (not obama, we saw plenty of that) but Trump proposing such, as you say.

    No pal, you may be the most bitter little man left on earth and your constant whining about things that are not happening are nothing short of amusing.
    National Debt; Clinton actually had a balanced budget....none of Bushes EVER were balanced.....But, of course that was the Rep' Congress, right?

    Of course the stock market is really strong- but it was for the last YEAR...Including under OBAMA.....And the giant corporations are licking their lips at the chance to hire people at $5/hour with no benefits...Chumpy will get it done, right?

    Energy/Jobs......Mmmmmmm....Black lung disease.........Oh boy! And just think, the next time an accident like the BP disaster happens, the oil companies can just walk away, laughing...because they will be fully protected from ANY lawsuits.

    Taxes on the rich; Chumpy has already submitted his plan- Taxes drop a bunch more for the rich while the poor and middle class are given token cuts....and how about the Home owners exemption?

    Doc.....YOU know what you want; ALL blacks, Mexicans, Asians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists....either out, or subservient.

    And no more elections; First, when did Obama EVER suggest "No more elections"?.....I know, all the Hyper-con, white supremacists news outlets have been claiming that....But show me ONE FREAKING QUOTE!....As for Chumpy, he has made it clear that Congress, Senate and the Supreme court are all in his way....He ran his whole campaign based on the writings of Hitler, and he expects to be able to do just as Hitler did......Wipe out ALL opposition, then eliminate any laws standing in the way, and then be dictator for life....

    The biggest thing I see tho, is that you all LOVE Putin and continually state that he would be a GREAT leader if he did take over.....You have been fully indoctrinated into the Rupert/Putin brainwashing scheme....You WILL sell out this country....basically you already have.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    National Debt; Clinton actually had a balanced budget....none of Bushes EVER were balanced.....But, of course that was the Rep' Congress, right?

    Of course the stock market is really strong- but it was for the last YEAR...Including under OBAMA.....And the giant corporations are licking their lips at the chance to hire people at $5/hour with no benefits...Chumpy will get it done, right?

    Energy/Jobs......Mmmmmmm....Black lung disease.........Oh boy! And just think, the next time an accident like the BP disaster happens, the oil companies can just walk away, laughing...because they will be fully protected from ANY lawsuits.

    Taxes on the rich; Chumpy has already submitted his plan- Taxes drop a bunch more for the rich while the poor and middle class are given token cuts....and how about the Home owners exemption?

    Doc.....YOU know what you want; ALL blacks, Mexicans, Asians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists....either out, or subservient.

    And no more elections; First, when did Obama EVER suggest "No more elections"?.....I know, all the Hyper-con, white supremacists news outlets have been claiming that....But show me ONE FREAKING QUOTE!....As for Chumpy, he has made it clear that Congress, Senate and the Supreme court are all in his way....He ran his whole campaign based on the writings of Hitler, and he expects to be able to do just as Hitler did......Wipe out ALL opposition, then eliminate any laws standing in the way, and then be dictator for life....

    The biggest thing I see tho, is that you all LOVE Putin and continually state that he would be a GREAT leader if he did take over.....You have been fully indoctrinated into the Rupert/Putin brainwashing scheme....You WILL sell out this country....basically you already have.....
    why is it such a crime for "the rich" to have their taxes cut when YOURS are too? My taxes did nothing but rise under Obama, while my ability to work was almost regulated out of business... I realize there are those that feel they need the government to tell them what to do or pay their bills for them or (in their eyes) redistribute everything so OUTCOMES are equal even if INPUT isn't... but unless you are a total slacker, that doesn't help YOU.. I recall Obama railing about the unfair media, how Republicans and the courts were not allowing "his" vision to see fruition too... don't act like trump's behavior is suddenly new and scary... under "the great healer's" watch we as Americans have become far more divided, less trustful of our police, our religious institutions and each other, even our congress....and by an overwhelming majority thought the country on "the wrong track".... but for some insane reason insulated Obama from such blame like some bad Orwellian novel brainwashed into thinking the ONLY thing that makes America good is giving Washington even more power. People that cheered Obama's executive actions to overrun the "do nothing" congress now say TRUMP is the tyrant?? He comes from the business world where it isn't always carefully crafted Rose Garden photo ops. He had an agenda and I appreciate him doing everything he can to keep it moving even if it means he has to piss a few people off along the way. He is brash, arrogant, says things that piss off half of the country and pushes an agenda half of congress is having a heart attack over.... but so has every president before him!

    This time last year Americans felt the country was on the wrong track by over 70%! Today it is just under 60%... we are obviously a very cynical and dysfunctional nation but that's over a 10 point drop not seen since before Obama's tenure.. I'm not saying the guy is a savior, by any means but to deny the GOOD that has happened because of trump in the last 8 months is just plain stubborn partisan politics.
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    OK...the tax thing...I used to think- like any good repcon- that the rich should pay the same rate as anyone else....So lets do that! There, now 80% of the income of this nation is not taxable in any way....Great way to balance the budget...But then Cheney stated "Debt is GOOD!" and then borrowed us into hock to the commie Chinese to fund a phony war!

    After WW2, the rich payed approx' 75% in taxes and the middle class payed 35%....RIDICULOUS!!! So, by the time Reagan came into office, it was at 50% / 30%...The rich had their rate cut by 1/3 while the middle class had their rate cut by approx' 14%.....Since then, the rich have had their rate lowered to 35%- But functionally, with all of their loopholes, they pay MUCH less- sometimes zero, depending on who they know! Meanwhile, the middle class have had their rate dropped by a smidgen("Look, I got ten more dollars back from my income tax....Woohoo!").

    Question; IF you eliminate the taxes on the rich (What they are trying to do thru Chumpy) and you then have to balance the budget on the middle class....where are you going to get ANY money? They only pull in approx' 10-15% of the national income, at best......Lets double the amount they pay in taxes and you still only get a drop-in-the-bucket.....Now, how are you going to fund our military that will create an empire for Chumpy?

    Maybe we should go back to Cheney's idea; Eliminate all taxes, and then borrow more money from China...or maybe we could get out of debt by giving Alaska back to Russia...I suppose that would be good...helping out a good "Christian" leader like Putin......."Right"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    OK...the tax thing...I used to think- like any good repcon- that the rich should pay the same rate as anyone else....So lets do that! There, now 80% of the income of this nation is not taxable in any way....Great way to balance the budget...But then Cheney stated "Debt is GOOD!" and then borrowed us into hock to the commie Chinese to fund a phony war!

    After WW2, the rich payed approx' 75% in taxes and the middle class payed 35%....RIDICULOUS!!! So, by the time Reagan came into office, it was at 50% / 30%...The rich had their rate cut by 1/3 while the middle class had their rate cut by approx' 14%.....Since then, the rich have had their rate lowered to 35%- But functionally, with all of their loopholes, they pay MUCH less- sometimes zero, depending on who they know! Meanwhile, the middle class have had their rate dropped by a smidgen("Look, I got ten more dollars back from my income tax....Woohoo!").

    Question; IF you eliminate the taxes on the rich (What they are trying to do thru Chumpy) and you then have to balance the budget on the middle class....where are you going to get ANY money? They only pull in approx' 10-15% of the national income, at best......Lets double the amount they pay in taxes and you still only get a drop-in-the-bucket.....Now, how are you going to fund our military that will create an empire for Chumpy?

    Maybe we should go back to Cheney's idea; Eliminate all taxes, and then borrow more money from China...or maybe we could get out of debt by giving Alaska back to Russia...I suppose that would be good...helping out a good "Christian" leader like Putin......."Right"?
    i agree! I'm all for a flat tax... everyone pays the same percentage of their income after the poverty threshold... if you make a ton, you PAY a ton... but t the left seems to think that's not enough..or "fair" enough....

    the examples touted of people "not paying their fair share" are the relative small percentage that make the bulk of their income off capital gains.... a mechanism that NEEDS to remain taxed at a lower rate to incentivize business... I agree it is a "loophole" not exploited but legally utilized by the mitt romneys of the world, but fixating on that and changing our entire tax policy to "spank" a few that benefit hurts the many that low cap gains taxes help...

    i dont get the continued putin references.. I've never seen such a fixation on Russia since Clinton sold them our uranium.

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    How about a flat tax fee; Everyone pays $10,000......Make $25,000- pay $10,000......Make 1 million- pay $10,000......make a couple of billion- pay $10,000. And if you only make $9000, we kick you out of the country for not paying your fair share! Why should the rich pay any taxes, really?

    As for Putin.....Well, I have talked to a lot of What used to be "Commie-hating" good McCarthy-Conservatives....And, have watched Fox and other "Good, Christian, conservative" news sources....And I hear a lot of them saying "Putin is a really good guy- I wish we had a great leader like him!" And I wondered what the freaking heck is going on.....Then I dug into it a bit; Turns out that Rupert Murdoch and Vlad(Putin) are best buds, even to sharing their girls and such.....So when you are listening to Fox news, you are listening to what Vlad the Putin wants you to hear....And he (And Rupert) have been making it seem like old Vlad is a great guy, and that maybe it wouldn't be such a bad thing if he took over.........

    The "Great guy" gamed the political system in Russia to where he now is "Emperor for life", he has ANYONE who tells him no assassinated, and he has basically allowed his pals in the Oligarchies to do anything they want in Russia...Oh yes, he has made it clear he wants to re-assemble the USSR....Possibly including, along with the rest of the world, a little country, soon to be called.......The USSA.

    You have been paranoid about the commies for a half century- Yet which way would be the slickest way to infiltrate this country and destroy it/take it over? By coming from the >Supposed< lefty- Commie side- with the Conservatives pointing their guns in that direction?....Or would it be slick-as-snot to come in from the right, compromising the good "Patriotic" Americans by telling them what they want to hear, while slowly indoctrinating them to believe that ole Vlady is a great guy and "We could do worse!"......Think about it.......

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    if you do any home work you would know clinton couldn't make any deal with any one in regards to uranium. the sec. of state can only give there opinion on a sale like that. all the cabinet members give a opinion on a sale like that. it then go's to home land security. this is just anther blame clinton to hide what the left is doing and you guys take it balls deep instead of looking it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    National Debt; Clinton actually had a balanced budget....none of Bushes EVER were balanced.....But, of course that was the Rep' Congress, right?
    Newt Gingrich balanced those budgets and anyone with a brain larger than a pea would know that.

    Of course the stock market is really strong- but it was for the last YEAR...Including under OBAMA.....And the giant corporations are licking their lips at the chance to hire people at $5/hour with no benefits...Chumpy will get it done, right?
    Record closings didn't start until the election results were confirmed. Again - pea brains . . .

    Energy/Jobs......Mmmmmmm....Black lung disease.........Oh boy! And just think, the next time an accident like the BP disaster happens, the oil companies can just walk away, laughing...because they will be fully protected from ANY lawsuits.
    Who did the BP disaster happen under? It authorized obama to pull everything out of the gulf and shut down much of our exploration so that equipment could be sent to Soros' operations. Back to the pea brain thing . . .

    Taxes on the rich; Chumpy has already submitted his plan- Taxes drop a bunch more for the rich while the poor and middle class are given token cuts....and how about the Home owners exemption?
    Only a fool (democrat) would believe you could tax a people into prosperity but it appears you qualify.

    Doc.....YOU know what you want; ALL blacks, Mexicans, Asians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists....either out, or subservient.
    This is your most absurd statement of all. It doesn't deserve a response, it's so far off truth.

    And no more elections; First, when did Obama EVER suggest "No more elections"?.....I know, all the Hyper-con, white supremacists news outlets have been claiming that....But show me ONE FREAKING QUOTE!....As for Chumpy, he has made it clear that Congress, Senate and the Supreme court are all in his way....He ran his whole campaign based on the writings of Hitler, and he expects to be able to do just as Hitler did......Wipe out ALL opposition, then eliminate any laws standing in the way, and then be dictator for life....
    King obama's people were screaming for him to do away with our election system and you know it.

    The biggest thing I see tho, is that you all LOVE Putin and continually state that he would be a GREAT leader if he did take over.....You have been fully indoctrinated into the Rupert/Putin brainwashing scheme....You WILL sell out this country....basically you already have.....
    Putin has proven to be one of Russia's better leaders. His Christian upbringing has contributed to his lack of desire for world dominance and his ability to work with the likes of both obama and Trump. His lack of constitutional value would preclude him from ever being a leader I would want. I'll take Trump who repeatedly states he is working for ALL AMERICANS - that includes you. I suppose that continues to fly over your head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    How about a flat tax fee; Everyone pays $10,000......Make $25,000- pay $10,000......Make 1 million- pay $10,000......make a couple of billion- pay $10,000. And if you only make $9000, we kick you out of the country for not paying your fair share! Why should the rich pay any taxes, really?
    I LIKE that!! TRUE equality regardless of occupation, race, how many kids you have or what you make. Who needs the ones that can't afford to live here anyway?....and maybe we charge the illegals (at least while they are still here) 2x as much...kind of like out of state tuition...and the rich aren't protected from paying taxes....they pay the same $10k as everyone else! What could be more fair?

    i think you are on to something here!
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