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    I've been waiting for you 6 or 7 hard ass Republicans here to post something about the new tax plan. What's the problem?

    Trump getting a $11-15 million raise per year with the new plan. Top 1% getting 67% of the money now and 83% of the money 10 years from now.

    This is what happens when we as citizens keep electing the top money earners to office. Honestly I don't have a good answer on how to change this. Money talks so how do we get it done?

    My political views fall in between the 2 party's. This was the 1st time being able to vote for President in 36 years I could not in good conscience pick the lesser of 2 evils. They both suck & the worst choice won.

    Simple tax plan: 1st $50k for everyone, 0%. Ramp up percentages of money made over $50k to $500k then everything over $500k at 40%. Same for all.

    No way this happens, top 1% in control due to who we elect. Now what? No really, now what?

    P.S. If you can't write a proper sentence or spell then who's going to pay attention to you?


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    Here's a news flash. The rich are going to be rich. Money is out there, go figure out how to get it. I haven't been arsed to look how this is going to effect me business or personal wise, but I'm pretty damn well sure it's gonna be better than that watermelon covered in razor blades I got shoved up my ass by Ogoat fucker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HST4ME View Post


    Here's a news flash. The rich are going to be rich. Money is out there, go figure out how to get it. I haven't been arsed to look how this is going to effect me business or personal wise, but I'm pretty damn well sure it's gonna be better than that watermelon covered in razor blades I got shoved up my ass by Ogoat fucker.
    Like I stated "If you cannot write a complete sentence or spell correctly who's going to pay attention?"

    This is about a tax plan that makes sense for every citizen in our country. Why not a tax plan that treats everyone equally?

    Making money is not the issue. There's plenty for anyone with the intelligence to go after it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsonly View Post
    Like I stated "If you cannot write a complete sentence or spell correctly who's going to pay attention?"

    This is about a tax plan that makes sense for every citizen in our country. Why not a tax plan that treats everyone equally?

    Making money is not the issue. There's plenty for anyone with the intelligence to go after it.
    What you fail to realize is that having a tax code is the only way both side of our congress can reward their friends. If you don't think the democrats do this, you're highly mistaken.
    Case in point Democratic senator from Colorado puts in a tax exemption for any sheep ranch above a certain elevation. it only affected one ranch, his neighbors.
    This goes on for all friends, donors, and businesses in their district.
    The right way to do it is to impose a three tiered flat tax or a consumption tax. But neither side wants that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsonly View Post
    I've been waiting for you 6 or 7 hard ass Republicans here to post something about the new tax plan. What's the problem?

    Trump getting a $11-15 million raise per year with the new plan. Top 1% getting 67% of the money now and 83% of the money 10 years from now.

    This is what happens when we as citizens keep electing the top money earners to office. Honestly I don't have a good answer on how to change this. Money talks so how do we get it done?

    My political views fall in between the 2 party's. This was the 1st time being able to vote for President in 36 years I could not in good conscience pick the lesser of 2 evils. They both suck & the worst choice won.

    Simple tax plan: 1st $50k for everyone, 0%. Ramp up percentages of money made over $50k to $500k then everything over $500k at 40%. Same for all.

    No way this happens, top 1% in control due to who we elect. Now what? No really, now what?

    P.S. If you can't write a proper sentence or spell then who's going to pay attention to you?

    To start, I am a conservative Independent. You mentioned you fall in between the 2 party's. Do you believe in the capitalist system we have had in our country since the founding? You give me the impression you are a Socialist.

    Currently about 40% of the people do not pay any federal income tax, yet they get a tax refund, and even more under the new bill.

    Under this bill, every one gets a lower tax rate. You better do your own research and not listen to the MSM.

    The most important purpose of the bill, the corporate tax rate, is to grow the economy. Put more people to work, and have them pay taxes, like everyone else with a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    What you fail to realize is that having a tax code is the only way both side of our congress can reward their friends. If you don't think the democrats do this, you're highly mistaken.
    Case in point Democratic senator from Colorado puts in a tax exemption for any sheep ranch above a certain elevation. it only affected one ranch, his neighbors.
    This goes on for all friends, donors, and businesses in their district.
    The right way to do it is to impose a three tiered flat tax or a consumption tax. But neither side wants that!
    Never stated the Democrats don't do this. Both sides are the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsonly View Post

    P.S. If you can't write a proper sentence or spell then who's going to pay attention to you?

    You need to do more research. Laziness will get you no where, and you will remain ignorant. Since you are bent on remaining so, you are not worthy of my time.
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    With the Corp Tax reduction from 35% to 21%.....each and every American will benefit.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsonly View Post
    /.... This was the 1st time being able to vote for President in 36 years I could not in good conscience pick the lesser of 2 evils. They both suck & the worst choice won.....
    Then perhaps you should have voted......w/o voting.....nothing will ever change.....And IMO, w/o voting, you actually are in no position to complain.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SNiC View Post
    With the Corp Tax reduction from 35% to 21%.....each and every American will benefit.
    It really isn't that hard to understand. Less taxes, companies moving back here to produce products, lowering unemployment. Not only does this relieve money going to unemployment, etc, it turns them into tax payers.

    Quote Originally Posted by SNiC View Post
    Then perhaps you should have voted......w/o voting.....nothing will ever change.....And IMO, w/o voting, you actually are in no position to complain.

    Exactly.
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    If you expected intelligent replies from most of these guys, you just haven't been reading this forum.

    One makes the observant comment that, "The rich are going to be rich." It seems he is defending this new tax plan regardless of how unfair or absurd it is.

    Another says the Democrats do it also, and gives one example, but with no details for his example. So I guess in his mind it's Ok if the Republicans shove this blatantly unfair tax bill down everyones throat even though 2/3 of the population objected. While the Democrats are not perfect, I don't recall them ever passing a bill where 2/3 of the population thought their bill was not fair or just outright a bad bill.

    Another said, "40% of the people do not pay any federal income tax, yet they get a tax refund, and even more under the new bill." The truth is, 40% of the people who do not pay federal income tax do not get a tax refund. Many of those who do, get it as a result of the, Earned Income Credit (EIC) and was a provision of the Tax Reduction Act of 1975, introduced by Republican President Gerald Ford.
    He also seems to think that you appear to be a socialist for some reason because you fall between the two parties. I'd really like to have that explained.
    It sounds as though they think a true Capitalistic society is actually good. For anyone that does, they don't understand history and the nature of True Capitalism and certainly doesn't understand there needs to be a balance. That would be somewhere in the middle.

    Then you have, "You need to do more research. Laziness will get you no where, and you will remain ignorant." With comments or replies like that, it's a waste of his time and your time.

    According to the Republicans who passed this bill, the lost income from the income tax will somehow be made up by increased production. It didn't work under Regan and there won't be that many jobs created. Even the CEO's say they will buy back their stock and pay bonuses. In the mean time, there will be less money for roads or waterways and security anywhere.

    Remember this bill came from Trump, who said he didn't pay taxes because he was smart during the campaign and later said his tax plan would actually cost him a lot, but now that the bill is law, it appears he will benefit by the millions. Even the millions doesn't account for the inheritance tax he will be exempt from.

    Those who expressed concerns or disapproval of your comment pretty much fall into that category of, "P.S. If you can't write a proper sentence or spell then who's going to pay attention to you?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsplace View Post
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    If you expected intelligent replies from most of these guys, you just haven't been reading this forum.

    One makes the observant comment that, "The rich are going to be rich." It seems he is defending this new tax plan regardless of how unfair or absurd it is.

    Another says the Democrats do it also, and gives one example, but with no details for his example. So I guess in his mind it's Ok if the Republicans shove this blatantly unfair tax bill down everyones throat even though 2/3 of the population objected. While the Democrats are not perfect, I don't recall them ever passing a bill where 2/3 of the population thought their bill was not fair or just outright a bad bill.

    Another said, "40% of the people do not pay any federal income tax, yet they get a tax refund, and even more under the new bill." The truth is, 40% of the people who do not pay federal income tax do not get a tax refund. Many of those who do, get it as a result of the, Earned Income Credit (EIC) and was a provision of the Tax Reduction Act of 1975, introduced by Republican President Gerald Ford.
    He also seems to think that you appear to be a socialist for some reason because you fall between the two parties. I'd really like to have that explained.
    It sounds as though they think a true Capitalistic society is actually good. For anyone that does, they don't understand history and the nature of True Capitalism and certainly doesn't understand there needs to be a balance. That would be somewhere in the middle.

    Then you have, "You need to do more research. Laziness will get you no where, and you will remain ignorant." With comments or replies like that, it's a waste of his time and your time.

    According to the Republicans who passed this bill, the lost income from the income tax will somehow be made up by increased production. It didn't work under Regan and there won't be that many jobs created. Even the CEO's say they will buy back their stock and pay bonuses. In the mean time, there will be less money for roads or waterways and security anywhere.

    Remember this bill came from Trump, who said he didn't pay taxes because he was smart during the campaign and later said his tax plan would actually cost him a lot, but now that the bill is law, it appears he will benefit by the millions. Even the millions doesn't account for the inheritance tax he will be exempt from.

    Those who expressed concerns or disapproval of your comment pretty much fall into that category of, "P.S. If you can't write a proper sentence or spell then who's going to pay attention to you?"
    Still having problems with comprehension I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsonly View Post
    Never stated the Democrats don't do this. Both sides are the problem.
    My apologies, didn't mean it to sound as if you were defending the dems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsonly View Post
    I've been waiting for you 6 or 7 hard ass Republicans here to post something about the new tax plan. What's the problem?

    Trump getting a $11-15 million raise per year with the new plan. Top 1% getting 67% of the money now and 83% of the money 10 years from now.

    This is what happens when we as citizens keep electing the top money earners to office. Honestly I don't have a good answer on how to change this. Money talks so how do we get it done?

    My political views fall in between the 2 party's. This was the 1st time being able to vote for President in 36 years I could not in good conscience pick the lesser of 2 evils. They both suck & the worst choice won.

    Simple tax plan: 1st $50k for everyone, 0%. Ramp up percentages of money made over $50k to $500k then everything over $500k at 40%. Same for all.

    No way this happens, top 1% in control due to who we elect. Now what? No really, now what?

    P.S. If you can't write a proper sentence or spell then who's going to pay attention to you?

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