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    Is the current divide in our country similar to when the North & South went to war over Slavery? One side wanted to maintain ownership of their slaves, the other side felt those slaves are people too and should have the same rights as everyone else. Yea yea I know, let's not go there. Using the past to understand the present.

    No one is going anywhere near that line in the middle right now. I've been a registered Independent for 38 years. My philosophy has been to vote for those willing to meet the other side close to the middle to get things done primarily here in our country. Probably 4 to 1 Republican over the years. I have absolutely no one to vote for right now, that being said I haven't missed a election ever and will make a decision when the time comes next year. In 2016 I was like all you fucking morons can give us is Donald & Hillary, really! 1st time ever I chose the Libertarian, couldn't in good conscience vote for the other 2.

    Trump could have done so much if he wasn't such a dumbass. Look who he's surrounded himself with . The competent people he brought in left, take a look at all of those who are in jail and look at where we're at now. FUCK!

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    I was a registered independent for 45 years. I thought that we should have the ideal choice presented for President. When there was no one for me to vote for, I wrote in my choice. Well, to make a long story short, it was a stupid waste of my votes all the time. I even wrote in McCain before he was nominated. I feel so stupid about that, because he betrayed the American people when his vote could have ended Obamacare, but he hated Trump so much, he put his thumb down.

    Well, the Dems are now Socialist/Commies, a far cry from JFK's era. There is NO MORE MIDDLE GROUND!. I am now a registered Repub. and will never vote for any Dem. or waste my vote again.

    Trump has done more for the US than anyone in recent history. I will vote for him again.

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    The divide has been created by Putin and his big pal Rupert (FOX) Murdoch. Vlad wants this country to destroy itself via a civil war. He has been telling the right for 15 years that "All problems in this country are caused by the Libby lefty commies; They hate America and want to destroy the country! You guys on the right- good Christian conservatives- are always completely right, all the time! (Oh, and by the way, did you know that Russia is the ONLY Christian country? And that Putin is a GREAT Christian?)"

    You sell a (Crappy)used car by patting the victim on the back....And your backs should be worn out from russian BS patting...

    Now, his plan is coming to fruition; The conservatives are ready to kill everyone in the government plus their neighbors and family who do not "Agree 10000% all the time with Lord Trump!"

    I actually also believe that the russian bots have infiltrated the liberal news media.....The russians are working both sides to drive a wedge in our country. And they are doing very well at it. Some of my family members will not talk to other family members; "They are TRAITORS because they will not agree that Trump is the greatest president and that the whole country is now just perfect!"

    Putin is going to destroy this country- unless we start talking in a civil tone to each other- NOW!

    My version of conservative; BALANCED budgets, no deficit spending EVER, treating our allies well, taking care of the military and veterans (Even if they were captured) and lower taxes for everyone, STARTING with the Middle class...(I understand this does not agree with new conservatism)

    Ask yourself; "Why did Russia spend BILLIONS influencing our election?" (Noone argues with that fact) and "Why is Putin so happy about how our country is going?" (You cannot, in good conscience, claim that A) Russia is our pal, B) Putin is a really good guy (He is a dictator and murderer) and C) This country is in great shape (Buried in unbelievable debt- if (When) the economy crashes, WHO will help us out? (China did last time but we are constantly kicking sand in their faces....along with Europe...Maybe good ole Russia.......)

    This country became great not by arguing and killing each other- It became great by taking ideas from both sides and mixing them together to create innovation.......Come back together! Or kiss this country goodbye....

    (Although I dislike extreme liberals, consider this; San Francisco- Liberal center of the universe- has "Fleet week" every year, where they Celebrate the US Navy...How does that jive with "Liberals all hate the US and the Military"...? (You are being fed B F-ing S!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    The divide has been created by Putin and his big pal Rupert (FOX) Murdoch. Vlad wants this country to destroy itself via a civil war. He has been telling the right for 15 years that "All problems in this country are caused by the Libby lefty commies; They hate America and want to destroy the country! You guys on the right- good Christian conservatives- are always completely right, all the time! (Oh, and by the way, did you know that Russia is the ONLY Christian country? And that Putin is a GREAT Christian?)"

    You sell a (Crappy)used car by patting the victim on the back....And your backs should be worn out from russian BS patting...

    Now, his plan is coming to fruition; The conservatives are ready to kill everyone in the government plus their neighbors and family who do not "Agree 10000% all the time with Lord Trump!"

    I actually also believe that the russian bots have infiltrated the liberal news media.....The russians are working both sides to drive a wedge in our country. And they are doing very well at it. Some of my family members will not talk to other family members; "They are TRAITORS because they will not agree that Trump is the greatest president and that the whole country is now just perfect!"

    Putin is going to destroy this country- unless we start talking in a civil tone to each other- NOW!

    My version of conservative; BALANCED budgets, no deficit spending EVER, treating our allies well, taking care of the military and veterans (Even if they were captured) and lower taxes for everyone, STARTING with the Middle class...(I understand this does not agree with new conservatism)

    Ask yourself; "Why did Russia spend BILLIONS influencing our election?" (Noone argues with that fact) and "Why is Putin so happy about how our country is going?" (You cannot, in good conscience, claim that A) Russia is our pal, B) Putin is a really good guy (He is a dictator and murderer) and C) This country is in great shape (Buried in unbelievable debt- if (When) the economy crashes, WHO will help us out? (China did last time but we are constantly kicking sand in their faces....along with Europe...Maybe good ole Russia.......)

    This country became great not by arguing and killing each other- It became great by taking ideas from both sides and mixing them together to create innovation.......Come back together! Or kiss this country goodbye....

    (Although I dislike extreme liberals, consider this; San Francisco- Liberal center of the universe- has "Fleet week" every year, where they Celebrate the US Navy...How does that jive with "Liberals all hate the US and the Military"...? (You are being fed B F-ing S!)
    Well I see nothing has changed here. Putin is still living rent free in CVX’s head.
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    Nothing has changed. CVX still says RUSSIA,RUSSIA,RUSSIA. But it is really COMMUNISM,COMMUNISM, COMMUNISM. The leader is Bernie Sanders, (a Commie all his life) followed by all the Dems. which now adhere to Socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    Well I see nothing has changed here. Putin is still living rent free in CVX’s head.
    See you next year.

    You wouldn't SEE if anything had changed or not because there's nothing in your head to see with. There's nothing but hate and a dark hole.

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    You guys and your hero keep on proving that you think that you and trump are above the law...He is selling the United States out to Russia and trying to get a civil war going...and you guys are cheering it on. Trump has ripped off everyone he has ever had business dealings with, has cheated on his wife numerous times, has given himself a gigantic tax cut, Disrespected a US serviceman (Who actually fought for this country), Claimed to pay for Veterans benefits but did not, and has called for a civil war.....What happened to the old GOP? Where did the moral code go?

    You say "Russia would never do anything against the US!" Yet they had that female in the NRA, they created and control America One, they definitely did everything they could to get Trump elected, they are happy as can be at Trump winning, and they are now in total control of the Syria/ISIS situation......And you guys LOVE that Russia is intervening for YOU (But not America) Are you going to name all of your children Vladimir after this country is wrecked?

    You guys are ready to burn the constitution and kill as many AMERICANS as you can- Don't lie or mealy-mouth it; You are all ready to wreck America in the name of Trump....Your little Godling. You know that Putin will have no use for your slimy hero after the wrecking of America...."Right"?

    You keep claiming that the democrats are stupid fools....then in the same breath you claim that Hillary and the democrats have a secret "Deep State" that is controlling America but none of you Geniuses can show any proof.

    Any Republican from 20 years ago would not support Trump in any way....He is a complete scumbag traitor. What happened to your (Old) conservative beliefs? Balanced budget, no deficit spending, having allies in the world and treating them with respect, not playing patty-cakes with Russia and the KGB dictator....and not calling for the destruction of this great country.

    You are completely brainwashed fools.....Goose-stepping to the end of this country....and Idolizing a contemptible low-life!

    You need to call yourselves the Trumpers or even the Putineers- You should not be allowed to sully the great Republican party name- you are brain-washed traitors- not true conservatives........>>>FOOLS<<<

    Reagan and Ike would have you arrested as traitors...

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