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    http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/...776335.htmlU.S.
    Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, set to deploy to Afghanistan, says he shouldn’t have to go.
    His reason?
    Barack Obama was never eligible to be president because he wasn’t born in the United States.

    Cook’s lawyer, Orly Taitz, who has also challenged the legitimacy of Obama’s presidency in other courts, filed a request last week in federal court seeking a temporary restraining order and status as a conscientious objector for her client.
    In the 20-page document — filed July 8 with the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia — the California-based Taitz asks the court to consider granting his client’s request based upon Cook’s belief that Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.
    Cook further states he “would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President’s command. ... simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties.”
    Cook, a reservist, received the orders mobilizing him to active duty on June 9.
    According to this document, which accompanies Cook’s July 8 application for a temporary restraining order, he has been ordered to report to MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Fla., on Wednesday. From there, the Florida resident would go to Fort Benning before deploying overseas.
    Documents show Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, two years after it became a state.
    A hearing to discuss Cook’s requests will take place in federal court here Thursday at 9:30 a.m.
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    Hannity just reported this....This military member is a PATRIOT 100% to take a stand like this. If he is proven right then we may finally get the truth, if he is proven wrong then we still get the truth....libtards, what is wrong with that?

    "On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invent against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
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    He's just a pussy trying to get out of war

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    Quote Originally Posted by back2k5 View Post
    He's just a pussy trying to get out of war
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    i am a disabled iraqi war vet (USMC) i left some of my blood in the sands of iraqi. this guy makes me sick. and he is an officer. but his is army trash and if it wasent for the army guys i had with me asking me why why why i prob would have full use of my left arm instead of the dead weight it can be if the nerves are not lined up right. yes i am bitter and i apologize to those army soldiers who my not fit my general description but my feelings are mine and whatayougonnado. if you served, no matter what branch you have my respect but guys like this sould be tared and feathered and put on parade as cowards. just my 2 cents. rant over sorry
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    If he didn't want to go to war, he shouldn't have signed up for military service. I mean, it's not like he was drafted or anything. Bet he uses those military benefits to their maximum benefit though.

    Here's an idea..........if he loses the case, throw him in Levanworth for the amount of time he would have served in Afghanistan.....send the scumbag lawyer w/ him for wasting this country's time and money...........hard labor at that...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watch Me Squirt View Post
    If he didn't want to go to war, he shouldn't have signed up for military service. I mean, it's not like he was drafted or anything. Bet he uses those military benefits to their maximum benefit though.

    Here's an idea..........if he loses the case, throw him in Levanworth for the amount of time he would have served in Afghanistan.....send the scumbag lawyer w/ him for wasting this country's time and money...........hard labor at that...........
    +1. Stupid asshole.
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    I think it"s more the principle here. If he was afraid of war why would he have become an Army Major? As for me I wouldnT go either for this Kenyan. The country is goin in the toilet, just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatpoor View Post
    I think it"s more the principle here. If he was afraid of war why would he have become an Army Major? As for me I wouldnT go either for this Kenyan. The country is goin in the toilet, just my 2 cents.
    It IS the principle of it here, not wanting to go or not.

    Folks, GI's included, WHY HAS OBAMA CONTINUED TO HIDE, yes, I mean HIDE, his birth reccords?


    What reason to NOT PROVE HIS LEGITIMACY IS THERE??????

    So far, the main reason I have seen his attorneys argue is "lack of standing" of the lawsuits, meaning that the person suint to see the reccords, has no reason to see them.

    A US Soldier, of any branch, is commanded by the President.
    A US soldier, is the most likely, IMO, to "have standing" to demand proof this man is legitimately belonging in his chain of command, especially if he is putting his life (and yes, potentially via this administration and the "International Court") and his freedom, as a direct employee of this man.

    As a GI (ret), I do not exactly agree with his action either, at least on the face, BUT, I DO agree with the principle of the matter, and of the chutzpah of doing this.


    Once again, for the gutless, cowardly, liberals lurking in stealth mode while watching the debates rage here, WHY HAS OBAMA SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS HIDING HIS BIRTH RECCORDS??????????
    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
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    OBAMA: Some people deserve this.
    The rest of us are being dragged along kicking and screaming.

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    I myself would go to war but I also would at least expect our president to show his birth certificate if asked

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    I agree if he is using this as just a gesture to get out, as many of you know I am also a disabled combat vet who did Panama, Gulf War I, and many TS missions all over the world..... I saw many who cried to get out and I cannot describe the anger I had when they disrupted the honor of serving..........Now if this guy is doing it on the premises that is being reported I support him 100% in fact I was just thinking how a legal military coop could happen out of this exposing Barry for who he may be or at least get the truth. Could you imagine a "class action" with a bunch of military forcing him to prove what I had to do when I signed up just as you did.....If he is using this just to get out......Levenworth!

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    My military opinion...the order came down to make it go away.....this might be the one way to force the truth. Military Coop through the legal system......This would be a new first and a welcome one.


    "It means that the military has nothing to show for Obama. It means that the military has directly responded by saying Obama is illegitimate – and they cannot fight it. Therefore, they are revoking the order!"

    "On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invent against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
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    Quote Originally Posted by donzi5150 View Post
    My military opinion...the order came down to make it go away.....this might be the one way to force the truth. Military Coop through the legal system......This would be a new first and a welcome one.


    "It means that the military has nothing to show for Obama. It means that the military has directly responded by saying Obama is illegitimate – and they cannot fight it. Therefore, they are revoking the order!"
    This guy won't be the first. You can bet on that.

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    It's certainly going to be interesting if nothing else to see how this is handled by the Pentagon and White House. Pressure has to be coming from somewhre to get the document released if for no other reason than to avoid the legal costs and disruption.

    If O refuses it will be another indication of his inability to be a leader. Plus to many, myself included, an outright admission of fraud of some sort.

    If there is nothing to hide, why not just produce the damned thing, if a legitimate copy even still exists.......
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