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    Default Excerpts from HC Bill. Please Read

    Here are more provisions that keep coming out. People are starting to read it.

    Keep in mind that Obama, Congress, and Federal Employees are exempt from this medical plan. Then ask yourself, why they are exempt, when they are trying to shove it down our throats. It's because they don't want to give up quality health care when we have to settle for rationed care...........Unbelievable.

    Subject: New Health Care Bill

    Apparently this guy has been reading the whole Health Care Bill, and is twittering to his friends. READ THIS!!!!

    If you can stomach it, I would try and read this all the way
    through. This usurper needs to be removed .

    Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) is reading it and has been posting on
    Twitter his findings <
    http://twitter.com/fleckman> . This is from his
    postings (Note: All comments are Fleckman's)

    Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS
    that self insure!!

    Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what
    treatments/benefits u get

    Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!

    Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose UR HC
    Benefits 4 you. U have no choice!

    PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens,
    illegal or otherwise

    Pg 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access 2 individuals' finances & a
    National ID Healthcard will be issued!

    Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 ur banks accts 4
    elect. funds transfer

    PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan 4 retirees and their families in
    Unions & community orgs (ACORN).

    Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange 2 bring priv HC plans under
    Govt control.

    PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs 4 priv. HC plans in
    the Exchange

    PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will
    ration ur Healthcare!

    PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic approp svcs. Example -
    Translation 4 illegal aliens

    Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps 2
    sign up indiv. for Govt HC plan

    PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members - UR Health
    care WILL b rationed

    -PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Indiv. will be
    automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice

    pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial
    review" against Govt Monop

    pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what u
    can make.

    Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public opt plan.

    Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay 4 HC 4 part time employees AND their

    Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Emplyr w payroll 400k & above who does not prov. pub
    opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll

    pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesnt prov. pub. opt
    pays 2-6% tax on all payroll

    Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC accrdng 2
    Govt will be taxed 2.5% of inc

    Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from indiv. taxes.
    (Americans will pay)

    Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access 2
    ALL Americans finan/pers recs

    PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be
    treated as tax" Yes, it says that

    Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician svcs 4 Medicaid.
    Seniors, low income, poor affected

    Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty u have,
    you'll all be paid the same

    PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr's time, prof judg, etc. Literally
    value of humans.

    PG 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC

    PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven

    PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients -
    welcome to rationing!

    Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals 4 what Govt deems
    preventable readmissions.

    Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admiss that results in
    a readmiss-Govt will penalize u.

    Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs.
    what/how much they can own.

    Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating
    hospitals cannot expand

    pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have oppt to apply for exception BUT community input
    required. Can u say ACORN?!!

    Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates estab. of outcome based measures.
    HC the way they want. Rationing

    Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority 2 disqual Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc.
    Forcing peeps in2 Govt plan

    Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs ppl! WTF.
    My sis has down syndrome!!

    Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Cmtte.
    Can u say HC by phone?

    PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior
    Citizens end of life

    Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills,
    durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

    PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides apprvd list of end of life
    resources, guiding u in death

    PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program 4 orders 4 end of life. The Govt
    has a say in how ur life ends

    Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "adv. care planning consult" will b used frequently as
    patients health deteriorates

    PG 429 Lines 10-12 "adv. care consultation" may incl an ORDER 4 end of life
    plans. AN ORDER from GOV

    Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of
    life order.

    PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment u will have
    at end of life

    Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN
    Medical Svcs here!!?

    Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment 2 a
    community-based org. Like ACORN?

    PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means
    they will insert Govt in2 ur marriage

    Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating,
    rationing those svcs

    Here's the full Health Care bill that sits in the House.


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    this thread as the long version from the bill as of july 22nd
    Quote Originally Posted by Rep. Joe Wilson (R) View Post
    YOU LIE!!!!!

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    Gee, I wonder why the rush to get this through...
    Pat Eason, the voice of reason...

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    I'd like to say that this is unbelievable, but it's not.

    Pretty scary stuff.
    Loose, the Dogs of War!

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    Saw this on Newsmax this morning. Unbelievable!! These Pelosi lead Commie bastards are nuts. They really do think we are stupid. We are supposed to give up the best health care in the world, so they can make it as effecient as the Post Office, Amtrak, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare and etc. Wow, what a deal.

    We that do pay for, or receive healthcare from employers, will get rationed care and have to pay more for the privilage. Also, illegals will get coverage from this government plan also. We have many other illegals in the country other than Mexicans. Hussein wants coverage for his Islamic brothers also.

    This is pure INSANITY.

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    Who the *** voted for this guy. They should all have a tattoo on thier forehead so I can repay them for the joy of watching America go down in flames.

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    Default Not to "Jack this Thread" but...

    Quote Originally Posted by motormonkey View Post
    Who the *** voted for this guy. They should all have a tattoo on thier forehead so I can repay them for the joy of watching America go down in flames.
    I drive a service truck alllll over CA. When I see a Tree Huggin', Sackless POS with an "O" sticker in his or her import I roll down my window and mouth, "I blame you, Ass wipe".

    Because I have my name and number on my truck, these idiots call the number to complain about the driver that just offended them. I ask, politely, of course, "where did this happen and did they get a good look at the driver?" They tell me where it was and yes they can describe him. I say, "you don't have to, it was me you POS. Now hang up and drive!".

    I tried to post pictures of my truck but I can't upload Schiat!
    Loose, the Dogs of War!

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    Karl Rovecommentedon Hannity last night that a survey showed 3 out of 4 Americans had healthcare and were happy with it. Of the remaining 25% many weren't insurable for a variety of reasons so basically we are doing all this for a small minority of folks.

    Of course U26 argued over in the open forum that his son had a $61K bill that was only covered by insurance for $17K. NO proof just a astat he threw out unsubstantiated or run through Snopes..... Point being these are the arguments the Left uses to claim the system needs replaced, not just overhauled with the elimination of fraud which is the root cause of the 61/17 discrepancy, if that number is even true. Hospitals need to somehow pay for the fraud that isn't being enforced or prevented and this new debacle isn't going to fix anything.
    "Bottle by bottle, I'm clearing off that shelf...."

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