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    Sign the “Stop ObamaCare” Petition

    Stop The Government From Taking our Freedom of Choice in Health Care Before It's Too Late

    Obama and Liberal Democrats in Congress are pushing “reform” that will force America into a government-run system like Canada or Europe. If they succeed, most Americans will no longer be able to keep the insurance they have. Instead, they will be forced into a government-run health insurance market, with most people enrolled in a government-run health plan. The vast majority of Americans oppose government-run health care because they know it will reduce the quality and increase the cost. Not to mention, our country cannot afford to go deeper in debt to pay for this new program. Obama will dig a financial hole in which our children and grandchildren will never be able to climb out.
    I support the following as key elements of any health care reform plan:
    • Choice: I support the right to choose my own doctor and to choose a heath insurance that best fits my family's needs and budget.
    • Access: I want to get the treatment I need, when I need it, without delay or denial and I want my healthcare to be patient-centered rather than government-centered.
    • Fairness: I want the same tax breaks employees get if I have to pay for my own health insurance; and I want government assistance redirected to those that truly need help.
    • Responsibility: I want more control to cover my own health care decisions and I want a system that encourages everyone to eliminate fraud, waste and abuse. I want insurance I can take with me if I have to change jobs.
    http://patriotupdate.com/petition/

    "On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invent against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
    Thomas Jefferson letter to Justice William Johnson, June 12, 1823

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    Pretty interesting what the White House is spewing.

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    Dear Friend,

    This is probably one of the longest emails I’ve ever sent, but it could be the most important.

    Across the country we are seeing vigorous debate about health insurance reform. Unfortunately, some of the old tactics we know so well are back — even the viral emails that fly unchecked and under the radar, spreading all sorts of lies and distortions.

    As President Obama said at the town hall in New Hampshire, “where we do disagree, let's disagree over things that are real, not these wild misrepresentations that bear no resemblance to anything that's actually been proposed.”

    So let’s start a chain email of our own. At the end of my email, you’ll find a lot of information about health insurance reform, distilled into 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or without coverage, 8 common myths about reform and 8 reasons we need health insurance reform now.

    Right now, someone you know probably has a question about reform that could be answered by what’s below. So what are you waiting for? Forward this email.

    Thanks,
    David

    David Axelrod
    Senior Adviser to the President

    P.S. We launched www.WhiteHouse.gov/realitycheck <http://www.WhiteHouse.gov/realitycheck/?e=11&ref=text0> this week to knock down the rumors and lies that are floating around the internet. You can find the information below, and much more, there. For example, we've just added a video of Nancy-Ann DeParle from our Health Reform Office tackling a viral email head on. Check it out:

    Health Insurance Reform Check <http://www.whitehouse.gov/realitycheck/71/?e=11>

    8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or without coverage


    1. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance companies will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your medical history.
    2. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays: Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much they can charge for out-of-pocket expenses.
    3. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies must fully cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you prevent illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.
    4. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance companies will be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for those who become seriously ill.
    5. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be prohibited from charging you more because of your gender.
    6. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies will be prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you receive.
    7. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue to be eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.
    8. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be required to renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in full. Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because someone became sick.

    Learn more and get details: http://www.WhiteHouse.gov/health-insurance-consumer-protections/ <http://www.whitehouse.gov/health-insurance-consumer-protections/?e=11&ref=hicp>

    8 common myths about health insurance reform

    1. Reform will stop "rationing" - not increase it: It’s a myth that reform will mean a "government takeover" of health care or lead to "rationing." To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that are currently being used by insurance companies.
    2. We can’t afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford. It’s a myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the President has identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs by cutting waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health programs; ending big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency with such steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long term, reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a fiscal crisis.
    3. Reform would encourage "euthanasia": It does not. It’s a malicious myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for seniors. For seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about end-of life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private consultations for those who want help with these personal and difficult family decisions.
    4. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It’s a myth that health insurance reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To the contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage under the VA, extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously excluded. The VA Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible veterans.
    5. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It’s a myth that health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the contrary, reform will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to help them pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with big firms who pay much less to cover their employees on average.
    6. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It’s myth that Health Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits. To the contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of Medicare, ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary subsidies to insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare "doughnut" hole to make prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.
    7. You can keep your own insurance: It’s myth that reform will force you out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors. To the contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.
    8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account: It is an absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank accounts. Health insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier and more convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just like paying a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional check, or by a direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they will be easier to understand. The choice is up to you – and the same rules of privacy will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that people make.

    Learn more and get details:
    http://www.WhiteHouse.gov/realitycheck <http://www.whitehouse.gov/realitycheck/?e=11&ref=myth1>
    http://www.WhiteHouse.gov/realitycheck/faq <http://www.whitehouse.gov/realitycheck/faq/?e=11&ref=myth1>

    8 Reasons We Need Health Insurance Reform Now


    1. Coverage Denied to Millions: A recent national survey estimated that 12.6 million non-elderly adults – 36 percent of those who tried to purchase health insurance directly from an insurance company in the individual insurance market – were in fact discriminated against because of a pre-existing condition in the previous three years or dropped from coverage when they became seriously ill. Learn more: http://www.healthreform.gov/reports/denied_coverage/index.html
    2. Less Care for More Costs: With each passing year, Americans are paying more for health care coverage. Employer-sponsored health insurance premiums have nearly doubled since 2000, a rate three times faster than wages. In 2008, the average premium for a family plan purchased through an employer was $12,680, nearly the annual earnings of a full-time minimum wage job. Americans pay more than ever for health insurance, but get less coverage. Learn more: http://www.healthreform.gov/reports/hiddencosts/index.html
    3. Roadblocks to Care for Women: Women’s reproductive health requires more regular contact with health care providers, including yearly pap smears, mammograms, and obstetric care. Women are also more likely to report fair or poor health than men (9.5% versus 9.0%). While rates of chronic conditions such as diabetes and high blood pressure are similar to men, women are twice as likely to suffer from headaches and are more likely to experience joint, back or neck pain. These chronic conditions often require regular and frequent treatment and follow-up care. Learn more: http://www.healthreform.gov/reports/women/index.html
    4. Hard Times in the Heartland: Throughout rural America, there are nearly 50 million people who face challenges in accessing health care. The past several decades have consistently shown higher rates of poverty, mortality, uninsurance, and limited access to a primary health care provider in rural areas. With the recent economic downturn, there is potential for an increase in many of the health disparities and access concerns that are already elevated in rural communities. Learn more: http://www.healthreform.gov/reports/hardtimes <http://www.healthreform.gov/reports/hardtimes/>
    5. Small Businesses Struggle to Provide Health Coverage: Nearly one-third of the uninsured – 13 million people – are employees of firms with less than 100 workers. From 2000 to 2007, the proportion of non-elderly Americans covered by employer-based health insurance fell from 66% to 61%. Much of this decline stems from small business. The percentage of small businesses offering coverage dropped from 68% to 59%, while large firms held stable at 99%. About a third of such workers in firms with fewer than 50 employees obtain insurance through a spouse. Learn more: http://www.healthreform.gov/reports/helpbottomline <http://www.healthreform.gov/reports/helpbottomline/>
    6. The Tragedies are Personal: Half of all personal bankruptcies are at least partly the result of medical expenses. The typical elderly couple may have to save nearly $300,000 to pay for health costs not covered by Medicare alone. Learn more: http://www.healthreform.gov/reports/inaction <http://www.healthreform.gov/reports/inaction/>
    7. Diminishing Access to Care: From 2000 to 2007, the proportion of non-elderly Americans covered by employer-based health insurance fell from 66% to 61%. An estimated 87 million people - one in every three Americans under the age of 65 - were uninsured at some point in 2007 and 2008. More than 80% of the uninsured are in working families. Learn more: http://www.healthreform.gov/reports/inaction/diminishing/index.html
    8. The Trends are Troubling: Without reform, health care costs will continue to skyrocket unabated, putting unbearable strain on families, businesses, and state and federal government budgets. Perhaps the most visible sign of the need for health care reform is the 46 million Americans currently without health insurance - projections suggest that this number will rise to about 72 million in 2040 in the absence of reform. Learn more: http://www.WhiteHouse.gov/assets/documents/CEA_Health_Care_Report.pdf <http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/documents/CEA_Health_Care_Report.pdf?e=11&ref=report>

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    This guy is a CEO of some of the largest hospitals including one in London.....He can shed some light on the O lie!

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...571670158.html

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    Ever notice David Axelrod looks like Hitler. Just saying...
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    I hear Axelrod floats around in a 26 foot Ultra.......

    Guy's a liar just like his boss. All the misinformation comes from the fact HusseinO keeps talking about a program he really doesn't understand himself. He's created more confusion than he's clarified with his "version of the day" ramblings. F--k 'em all, vote it down, vote 'em out ,and give us a country back!!!!!
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    The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights state that the Healthcare bill has racial discrimination in parts of the bill. I wonder if the O friends of Gates or Wright helped write some of the language?

    http://www.marklevinshow.com/goout.a...lth-care-bill/

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    I have signed and have been following closely as you. Will you be able to make it to Sacramento on the 28th is it?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Understood View Post
    I have signed and have been following closely as you. Will you be able to make it to Sacramento on the 28th is it?
    As of today yes, Mark (schi502) will probably meet me......You? I invited Ultra, still waiting on that answer.

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    RVrat...that e-mail from Akelrod came from the WH website and was sent out to people who have wrote in comments to the WH and did not ask for a reply......Major Garrett asked that idiot Gibbs about it and he could not answer.....did the WH not claim that they would not be stockpiling a list of
    e-mails? I think the FBI needs to be looking into this!

    "On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invent against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
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    Quote Originally Posted by donzi5150 View Post
    RVrat...that e-mail from Akelrod came from the WH website and was sent out to people who have wrote in comments to the WH and did not ask for a reply......Major Garrett asked that idiot Gibbs about it and he could not answer.....did the WH not claim that they would not be stockpiling a list of
    e-mails? I think the FBI needs to be looking into this!
    I get them too and I dont know why?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Understood View Post
    I get them too and I dont know why?
    Same here. Pretty sure I sent them an ear full awhile back. But I get their garbage on occasion, usually I don't pay too much attention to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Understood View Post
    I get them too and I dont know why?

    Forward them to Major Garrett at Fox.....he is on this.

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    So I read the Duke Lit. professor that analyzed HB 3200 line by line and his article debunks the Axlerod e-mail line by line!!!!

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    I recieved this Axelrod e-mail, totally unsolicited, the day before yesterday. So, I sent a reply. Could not pass up the opportunity.

    "Mr Axelrod, as a conservative independent, I am against every socialist, Marxist program that you, Obama, Pelosi , Reid and Waxman can dream up. I will do every thing in my power to take my Country back"

    " Now that you know where I stand, here is my name and address----------------------------------. Just in case you want to have the IRS audit me, because at 70 years old I don't give a crap"

    I figured I would never get another e-mail from them again. The government can't even manage this project correctly. I RECIEVED ANOTHER E-MAIL TODAY.

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