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    Default Obamacare and Unemployment

    I guess this is one way to help bring the unemployment rate down

    IRS: We Need $359 Million to Deal With Obamacare

    Bracing for what the IRS calls the largest set of tax law changes in 20 years, a newly released IRS budget reports that the agency is seeking to bolster its resources in preparation for Obamacare implementation to the tune of 1,054 new auditors and staff — at a cost of $359 million to taxpayers.

    you can read the whole story here- IRS: We Need $359 Million to Deal With Obamacare



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    I read that today. That is just for now. Just wait, till the unconstitutional bill comes into play in 2014. That just a drop in the bucket. Simply amassing. My kids and Grand kids one day will be saying " why did we let this happen."
    Its okay Cas the union workers and the Government workers aren't going to care. They will be all making like 1/2 mil a year. And us peasant small business owners will foot the bill.

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    I saw the title and thought, "Finally, someone exposed the real unemployment numbers".. But, no. The improved 9% number is total crap. Nationwide it is more like 12%, and higher than that in places like Nevada.... There is no way to verify the number of unemployed citizens who's benefits have expired... Quite likely over a million workers, or more, fall into this "black hole" of the shitty economy, yet this administration continues to tout "the million jobs they have created"......Horseshit, for every gov't job they've created, 2 private sector workers are laid off.. There is NO net gain so far in the last 2 1/2 years, just smoke and stroke and foggy mirrors... Are the American people really that dumb to believe this crap? ......... And yeah, the IRS is going to go ballistic hiring workers to audit us all to make sure we're buying obamacare... What a crock. We need to repel that awful law now... We're doomed if it ever gets going in 2014, so vote very carefully in 2012.... Hell, vote for anyone besides obama. Anyone willing to have their life torn apart by the lefty media? Throw your hat in the ring, I'll vote for you....
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    12% lol....i bet 15-18%........There are no new jobs being created therefor when someone maxes out on unemployment they are no longer considered unemployed...as far as how to calculate it.....simple enough...
    Say unemployment is 5%.....without some kind of growth/prosperity going on that 5% will still be unemployed in 2 years when benefits run out....unemployment is still @5% because of layoffs and businesses crashing, yet the real world number is 10%......

    So as long as there are no new jobs, unemployment could actually double every 2 years......And a way to cross check would be to track new apps. for food stamps
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    Default How do we get the unemployment down??? Build more fast food resturants? Washing cars?

    Why didn't you use the energy that you post on this forum back 10 - 15 years ago when Big Corporations started sending jobs overseas????? I know one reason, at the time it didn't effect you. You were secure in your own little world. It is horesh_t to blame Obama, he had nothing to do with the mess we are in now. Look in the mirror to see who is to blame for the condition of this country. Maybe there are to many regulations, but why do we have to have them? Big Corporations for the most part want to to do as little as they can for the safety and enviroment to increase there profits.
    I guess many would like to see a balanced budget for there grandchildren when they are born with 4 arms and 3 legs from the poision left from Big Corporations. I guess some on here would find that a fair trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cas View Post
    I guess this is one way to help bring the unemployment rate down

    IRS: We Need $359 Million to Deal With Obamacare

    Bracing for what the IRS calls the largest set of tax law changes in 20 years, a newly released IRS budget reports that the agency is seeking to bolster its resources in preparation for Obamacare implementation to the tune of 1,054 new auditors and staff — at a cost of $359 million to taxpayers.

    you can read the whole story here- IRS: We Need $359 Million to Deal With Obamacare

    This is actually one of the ways Reps pledges to tak apart O care. They are going to starve it for the funding. Although IRS typically payes for itself with taxes collected I think they are asking for this over and above that. If so, then I hope the house refuses to give it to them and it does not get port barrelled into something else.

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    $350k per staffer? For how many years? Seems a bit high..
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    Quote Originally Posted by shueman View Post
    $350k per staffer? For how many years? Seems a bit high..
    You have to remember they will need desks, office space, supplies, extra energy for electronics and lights. It all adds up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosscat_40475 View Post
    Why didn't you use the energy that you post on this forum back 10 - 15 years ago when Big Corporations started sending jobs overseas????? I know one reason, at the time it didn't effect you. You were secure in your own little world. It is horesh_t to blame Obama, he had nothing to do with the mess we are in now. Look in the mirror to see who is to blame for the condition of this country. Maybe there are to many regulations, but why do we have to have them? Big Corporations for the most part want to to do as little as they can for the safety and enviroment to increase there profits.
    I guess many would like to see a balanced budget for there grandchildren when they are born with 4 arms and 3 legs from the poision left from Big Corporations. I guess some on here would find that a fair trade.
    So tell us "your" solution to the woes of the economy? You keep harping on everyone else's "looking into the mirror", but I've yet to hear any positive solution from you.

    Would you break up the "corporations", shut them down, have the government take them over like they basically did with GM?

    Where's the plan?
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    Default Learn from Standard Oil Company

    Learn a lesson from History. Stop any Corporations that have a monopoly that supply's any commodity that would pose a National Security risk. If is to big to fail, then it needs to be broke up.
    Stop the wars. We can't afford them. Stop trying to buy friendships from other counties
    Stop being the police force of the world.
    Levy a heavy tariff on any products that are manufactured overseas. Bring our jobs home. US is the worlds biggest consumer, Big Corps can't sell there products to a Chinese making a few bucks a week. Stop bowing to Major Corporations.
    Have a flat tax everyone pays the same percentage. 10% of 100= 10 10%1000=100
    Would you like more.

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    How about dropping the Corporate tax rate to 6-8% and the Capitol gains to "0" for a starter.
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    Duhh let's see, which model would you support?

    Industry/Business which carry little or NO debt,Work HARD to lower the overhead and are doing well ,these people don't need a bailout or a bankruptcy.

    Now the very poorly ran Federal Government!!!!!!!!! Hell ,Spend Spend Spend , hire,hire hire, tax tax tax and tax more always on the edge of being Bankrupt?


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    Quote Originally Posted by shueman View Post
    $350k per staffer? For how many years? Seems a bit high..
    This is from factcheck.org...... http://factcheck.org/2010/12/are-fed...kers-overpaid/

    These statements are supported by an Aug. 10, 2010, analysis published by the libertarian Cato Institute and an Aug. 10, 2010, story in USA Today. Both based their reports on data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis. But they exaggerate the pay gap between private and federal workers. Listening to Senator-elect Paul and Speaker-in-waiting Boehner, one might be led to think that the average federal employee earns an annual salary of $120,000. But the figure — which Cato and USA Today gave as $123,049 — is for total compensation, including the cost of health insurance, pensions, and other benefits.

    These reports say the average salary for civilian federal employees was $81,258 in 2009 — about 61 percent higher than the $50,462 paid to the average private sector worker, but not double. The reports also say that the federal government paid $41,791 in benefits for every federal civilian worker — far more than the $10,589 spent on benefits for the average private-sector worker, although as we will show later that figure is inflated. (These numbers were arrived at by dividing full-time equivalent employees for private industries (line 3) and federal government (line 89, civilian) by their total compensation or their total wage and salary. The statistics on federal employees exclude the military as well as postal workers.)
    Factor in Travel and other expenses.... plus the usual government hide the funds bullshite and its pretty damned close to $350,000 per year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosscat_40475 View Post
    Learn a lesson from History. Stop any Corporations that have a monopoly that supply's any commodity that would pose a National Security risk. If is to big to fail, then it needs to be broke up.
    Stop the wars. We can't afford them. Stop trying to buy friendships from other counties
    Stop being the police force of the world.
    Levy a heavy tariff on any products that are manufactured overseas. Bring our jobs home. US is the worlds biggest consumer, Big Corps can't sell there products to a Chinese making a few bucks a week. Stop bowing to Major Corporations.
    Have a flat tax everyone pays the same percentage. 10% of 100= 10 10%1000=100
    Would you like more.
    You were making sense and doing quite well until you said "Bring our Jobs Home." While I completely agree that we should do this, the unions have virtually priced themselves out of market after market which is the primary reason our jobs left in the first place. Remember when Pennsylvania used to produce some of the world's best steel? How's about Hershey's chocolate? Thanks unions!
    Without "Right to Work" in every state in the union, we will simply be watching our jobs continue to disappear while the unions continue to mandate wages, medical, insurances, vacation days, unemployment benefits, working conditions, eliminating labor saving devices and unsustainable pension plans for every worker despite his productivity. What idiot would want to start a business these days knowing full well that he would have to hire a couple thousand union workers. He's lost control of his business before he opened the doors given that scenario.
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