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    If one was to go randomly through the majority of threads they'd find that no matter the side of the aisle we sit upon or opinions we base our beliefs upon, the majority of problems are about groups of people and organizations that are allowed to basically govern themselves.

    Lawyers, Doctors, Judges, Accountants, and Politicians all are basically monitored by their peers. You sue a Dr, you wil have to find a Dr to give testimony against him/her. And out of professional courtesy or fear they typically won't or will not do a thorough objective job of it. Judges who normally are lawyers oversee lawyers, politicians are typically lawyers and often time Drs. It's incestfull.

    Congress oversees their own pay, their own benefits, and police their fellow members actions. It's all riduculous and even more incredulous that the average tax payers are footing the bills and costs for "Everything"......Like it or not, agree with it or not, we get a chance every 2-4 years to vote the wrong doers out and "hope" the replacement has the fortitude to try and correct the original problem without themselves becoming the same problem as that whioch they replaced.


    It's utter madness if one stops and thinks about it....And somehow the lobbyists for the above groups and the politicians have effectively captured the media to adversly influence and confuse enough of the general public to keep us all battling each other to the point all the corruption of these "leaders of society" keep doing as they please......God grief, we're the idiots our parents warned us about it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Texan View Post
    If one was to go randomly through the majority of threads they'd find that no matter the side of the aisle we sit upon or opinions we base our beliefs upon, the majority of problems are about groups of people and organizations that are allowed to basically govern themselves.

    Lawyers, Doctors, Judges, Accountants, and Politicians all are basically monitored by their peers. You sue a Dr, you wil have to find a Dr to give testimony against him/her. And out of professional courtesy or fear they typically won't or will not do a thorough objective job of it. Judges who normally are lawyers oversee lawyers, politicians are typically lawyers and often time Drs. It's incestfull.

    Congress oversees their own pay, their own benefits, and police their fellow members actions. It's all riduculous and even more incredulous that the average tax payers are footing the bills and costs for "Everything"......Like it or not, agree with it or not, we get a chance every 2-4 years to vote the wrong doers out and "hope" the replacement has the fortitude to try and correct the original problem without themselves becoming the same problem as that whioch they replaced.


    It's utter madness if one stops and thinks about it....And somehow the lobbyists for the above groups and the politicians have effectively captured the media to adversly influence and confuse enough of the general public to keep us all battling each other to the point all the corruption of these "leaders of society" keep doing as they please......God grief, we're the idiots our parents warned us about it seems.
    That is what happens when a society starts to reject a free market economy.
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    What Old Tex is complaining about is simply the result of the fact that in America the elites rule.
    The professional Lawyer and Doctor groups he mentioned are basically special interest groups. Just as workers form Unions to organize, these professional groups form associations. Basically for the same reasons. Like unions the associations they form serve many purposes from social exclusivity, to lobbying work, to setting membership standards, to sanctioning members. All to protect and further the group's interests.
    Not to many here seem to be pro -union. Well professional organizations are the same thing just a little more sophisticated and higher up the food chain.
    It is all about money, power, and control.

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    They are ALL in groups that can be referred to with one simple word.....MONOPOLY! The capitolist system is based on competition, and a monopoly is the exact opposite...any time you get a monopoly, you can expect lousy quality, design and service....

    Also, this gets back to my frustration with the Educated elite calling themselves "Professionals" while anyone else is lumped into "Trades & Labor"; I may not know how to pronounce latin words, nor have read poetry or other high society stuff, but I can run circles around a lot of these guys- Guys with manicured fingers are just, hmmm...weird.

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    It's a crying shame that we have to completely dismantle something rather than simply right the ship.
    Case in point:
    Unions have a stranglehold on US businesses so the corporations go off shore to avoid them rather than deal with them. They have absolutely ruined the government's ability to negotiate much needed cut backs as we are witnessing in Illinois and elsewhere these days.
    Movements such as gay rights, women's movement, affirmative action, etc. worked hard to get enough strength and momentum to make a difference where one was needed but they didn't stop when things were fair. They swung the pendulum so far in favor of their movement that they now must be dismantled.
    Attorneys can keep tort reform from ever becoming law unless we elect some non-attorneys with guts enough to take them on.
    IRS, EPA, and a myriad of government agencies have nobody to oversee them appropriately and injustices now are commonplace.
    The list goes on and on but it simply proves when a group, organization or individual gets a measure of authority, he'll far too often misuse that authority to further a personal agenda.

    You're spot on Tex!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    They are ALL in groups that can be referred to with one simple word.....MONOPOLY! The capitolist system is based on competition, and a monopoly is the exact opposite...any time you get a monopoly, you can expect lousy quality, design and service....

    Also, this gets back to my frustration with the Educated elite calling themselves "Professionals" while anyone else is lumped into "Trades & Labor"; I may not know how to pronounce latin words, nor have read poetry or other high society stuff, but I can run circles around a lot of these guys- Guys with manicured fingers are just, hmmm...weird.
    There ya go. How many times did we hear during the last campaign that Obama was a better speaker, better educated, better trained, ad nauseum to the point it was all just to make him "appear" as something he really is not.

    It's been discussed how the Ivy Leaguers have solidified control of the nation in so many ways. We've allowed a ruling eleite to basically take over the nation.

    And yet when plain old every day hard working American taxpaying citizens gather to put a stop to things, they are slammed and made fun and incessantly made fun of: ie- The Tea Party.

    And Z, you come across as the most hypocritical of the bunch when you slam everybody it seems......All talk and complaints, regardless the side in many cases, yet no plan and no action. Shame on ya......

    This nation was started by common business people with common sense and soon the same will take the place back inspite of the media and inspite of the academia stuffed shirts and the elite worshipping bunch that sits frauds and self intests imposters in seats of power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Texan View Post
    ..........And Z, you come across as the most hypocritical of the bunch when you slam everybody it seems......All talk and complaints, regardless the side in many cases, yet no plan and no action. Shame on ya.......

    My interest is in challenging all stupidity, hypocrisy, hate, and ignorance. I find that some of the hard core right wing loons here seem to far exceed the few so called leftist 'Libtards' in these four areas on this site.
    I often suggest an action...most frequently turning off the talking propagandists on the radio, question authority, and really try to think for yourself !!!
    I hang out here because I am a hot boat owner. I do not post on or even visit any other political websites.
    I do like everyone here. Lots of interesting stuff is discussed. So I'm a despicable varmit because I don't take sides and I like to have fun while at it..too bad, because Zombie cares about your grumpy old ass Tex

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    My interest is in challenging all stupidity, hypocrisy, hate, and ignorance. I find that some of the hard core right wing loons here seem to far exceed the few so called leftist 'Libtards' in these four areas on this site.
    All? All? I call BS!
    You have seen far more stupidity, hypocrisy, hate and ignorance from your favorite liberal buddies here and you never challenge them. You are as fair and balanced as Olbermann reporting for MSNBC.

    You are now BSing yourself. Smart people can't do that, you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    All? All? I call BS!
    You have seen far more stupidity, hypocrisy, hate and ignorance from your favorite liberal buddies here and you never challenge them. You are as fair and balanced as Olbermann reporting for MSNBC.

    You are now BSing yourself. Smart people can't do that, you know.

    Doc, Since you and Old Tex are kinda the most senior guys here since Ultra 26 left. Tell us of all the folks who have been warned and even banned over the years for being raving lunatics how many were the so called liberals?? Be honest Rex may be watching

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Doc, Since you and Old Tex are kinda the most senior guys here since Ultra 26 left. Tell us of all the folks who have been warned and even banned over the years for being raving lunatics how many were the so called liberals?? Be honest Rex may be watching
    Never been banned myself. Couldn't answer your question either. I can say this:
    Banning a guest for non compliance of forum rules, is not party specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Doc, Since you and Old Tex are kinda the most senior guys here since Ultra 26 left. Tell us of all the folks who have been warned and even banned over the years for being raving lunatics how many were the so called liberals?? Be honest Rex may be watching
    Our old regular Blown got so many vacations he likely out totaled all others combined. A real liberal dipstick from Dallas Ft.Worth known commonly as Catscat and other derivitives of his screen name was finally banned for his liberal ignorance. U26 basicly banned himself.

    Other than that I know of no one outside Steve who has returned so basicly Z, the lefties are the loonies. They typically leave on their own for lack of substance to defend that which cannot be defended intelligently.
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    I realize I was not asked directly, but for the record:
    I have never been warned, infracted, or banned.

    Here is why, I believe. When I skirt the rules, I always post some sort of disclaimer such as the following.

    "In response to your question, I find it revealing that the Dem. poster that has the longest running post count in My time here (U26) required a requested control put in place by Admin. to prevent him from posting in the PRF. Although he no longer wanted to participate, He was unable to control his own actions, and needed a Gov. regulation (per sey) to prevent him from posting."

    This is NOT a slam on U26 (IMO, John is the one Dem. truest to his party, and most reflective of a true party follower from that side of the fence) just a mere observation.
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