Are you sick of highly paid teachers?

# Thread: Are you sick of highly paid teachers?

1. ## Are you sick of highly paid teachers?

Are you sick of highly paid teachers?
Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or10 months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do - babysit!
We can get that for less than minimum wage.

That's right. Let's give them \$3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be \$19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan-- that equals 6 1/2 hours).

Each parent should pay \$19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day...maybe 30? So that's \$19.50 x 30 = \$585.00 a day.
However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.

LET'S SEE....
That's \$585 X 180= \$105,300
per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).

What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage (\$7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to \$8.00 an hour. That would be \$8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = \$280,800 per year.

Wait a minute -- there's something wrong here! There sure is!
The average teacher's salary (nation wide) is \$50,000. \$50,000/180 days = \$277.77/per day/30 students=\$9.25/6.5 hours = \$1.42 per hour per student--a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!

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3. Jon Stewart Calls Out Fox News' Hypocrisy Comparing Teachers, Wall Street (VIDEO)

Jon Stewart Calls Out Fox News' Hypocrisy Comparing Teachers, Wall Street

Thursday night's "Daily Show" featured Jon Stewart doing what he does best: calling out hypocrisy in the media. After a segment on the intensified battle between Gov. Scott Walker and Wisconsin unions, Stewart took a look at how Fox News was reporting on the story, specifically compared to how they covered similar threats to the Bush tax cuts and bailed-out bank CEOs' salaries.

Stewart showed plenty of pundits saying that when it comes to taxing those who make \$250,000 a year, you're taxing people who are "not rich" and even "close to poverty" if they have a family of four with kids in college. But when it comes to teachers in Wisconsin, the same pundits say they, as government employees, should expect to see cuts in their ample \$50,000 a year salary plus benefits.
In other discussions on Fox News, cuts in teachers' salaries were compared to those of Wall Street executives. Megyn Kelly argued teachers don't deserve as much money because they "don't work as much." Stewart totally understood:
"See the difference? Regardless of the greed-based, almost slightly sociopathic job bankers did wrecking our economy, those people were there every single day, 12 months a year. Not that nine month bullsh*t!"
Stewart took it even further by showing another level of hypocrisy. Clips showed the same people on the network who agreed with the government limiting teachers' benefits also said that limiting the salaries of government bailed-out CEOs would be detrimental to the industry and "isn't a good way of attracting talent in the future."
"Absolutely, we have got to pay those bailed-out firm CEOs top dollar! Otherwise, those companies could wind up being run by a couple of jacka**es who f**k things up so royally, it torpedoes the entire global economy!"

They just had a special on CHARTER SCHOOLS, and PARENT TRIGGER

WHAT A F0CKIN SCAM...

I am sick and tired of hearing about how these focked up ass GREEN DOT and the like are so great

NO THEY ARE NOT.... THEY ARE A FRICKEN SCAM

5. Education starts at home. Wisconsin Teachers around 65k with benies around 90k. I just read some where that oc. Teachers 75-80k and laguna beach teachers 90-95k with out putting benefits in the equation. Good teachers should be rewarded, not all teachers are good, but receive the same pay. Flame on.

6. I work with teachers every day...some are amazing, some need to find another line of work (and they know it). Our District is pretty much an Inner-City environment...the teachers earn EVERY NICKEL they get just dealing with classroom/student discipline, let alone trying to teach them the basic Cali Standards...

7. What if we returned discipline to the classroom and paid every teacher based upon his/her performance as well as his/her student's performance.

Oh, that's right. Unions are involved. Back to the problem.

8. Originally Posted by The Doctor
What if we returned discipline to the classroom and paid every teacher based upon his/her performance as well as his/her student's performance.

Oh, that's right. Unions are involved. Back to the problem.
Because you will get teachers telling and giving their kids the answers instead of having them study and earn it so they can get paid and still earn nothing for teaching and baby sitting our future!

9. Originally Posted by RVRKID
Because you will get teachers telling and giving their kids the answers instead of having them study and earn it so they can get paid and still earn nothing for teaching and baby sitting our future!
Wow! I have family who are teachers - two in California and I'm not sure how I could ever bring myself to say such a thing. Testing could be done independent of the teacher's care without much difficulty. Conversely, I guarantee you the classroom teaching would vastly improve across the board if these teachers were paid on a performance based system rather than what some union negotiated.

10. Originally Posted by The Doctor
Wow! I have family who are teachers - two in California and I'm not sure how I could ever bring myself to say such a thing. Testing could be done independent of the teacher's care without much difficulty. Conversely, I guarantee you the classroom teaching would vastly improve across the board if these teachers were paid on a performance based system rather than what some union negotiated.
My girlfriend is a teacher and I understand what you are saying. BUT think of a couple of things, teachers don't get to pick their students so if a teacher gets students who don't care about school and there parents either both work, aren't around the house or don't care about their kids then now there salary is based off of these students? Also what about low income areas where again kids only care about gang bangin or trying to figure out how to get out of class and not do any homework then trying to learn and make sure they get high test scores so there teacher gets a better pay check. Just don't see how this could work fairly across the board. My girl is so dedicated and wants nothing more for her kids to learn but if an 8th grader doesn't want to they don't want to. I could go on and on!

11. Originally Posted by RVRKID
Because you will get teachers telling and giving their kids the answers instead of having them study and earn it
I know LAUSD teachers that do this

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12. Originally Posted by RVRKID
My girlfriend is a teacher and I understand what you are saying. BUT think of a couple of things, teachers don't get to pick their students so if a teacher gets students who don't care about school and there parents either both work, aren't around the house or don't care about their kids then now there salary is based off of these students? Also what about low income areas where again kids only care about gang bangin or trying to figure out how to get out of class and not do any homework then trying to learn and make sure they get high test scores so there teacher gets a better pay check. Just don't see how this could work fairly across the board. My girl is so dedicated and wants nothing more for her kids to learn but if an 8th grader doesn't want to they don't want to. I could go on and on!

I agree, you can not teach those who do not want to learn

It's not the teachers fault

13. Originally Posted by BIGAMIST
I know LAUSD teachers that do this

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Say it isn't so

14. Pay for Performance....not seniority.

15. I'm far better with paying a teacher \$80-\$90K per year then I am paying administrators and Superintendents \$100-\$500K.......Schools today have far too many principles, vice-principles, etc. What in the hell is that about? Put the money in the classroom where it belongs. Far too many of the bad teachers end up as useless administrators.

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