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    BBC News - US anti-gay rights senator Roy Ashburn comes out
    Roy Ashburn the GOP California state senator who has voted repeatedly against gay rights came out of the closet recently.Chalk up another example of GOP hypocritical sexual deviance.

    How do you conservatives, especially the religious ones, explain this? Why is it always the staunch anti gay legislators that end up secretly being gay themselves?

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    Is he anti gay rights or is he just one of many gay people who are opposed to some of the causes that gay activist groups and the political left like to call "gay rights"?

    If he truly has been anti gay rights, then perhaps he is demonstrating a behavior that some call "Projection". Ie, "The Lady doth protest too much, me thinks".
    It is no doubt the same kind of thing that Dem leaders are doing when they pretend that they don't like poverty or when they go around calling other people racist......
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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
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    How do you conservatives, especially the religious ones, explain this? Why is it always the staunch anti gay legislators that end up secretly being gay themselves?
    I guess it is because these days it is trendy for "liberals" to be openly gay.

    Seriously, I can't imagine any possible reason a "conservative", especially a religious one, would feel the need to explain the above. Only "liberals" seem to feel the need to explain or share the guilt of other peoples actions. Most libertarians and true conservatives have too much respect for their own and others individuality to have such a shallow collectivist mindset..
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    Quote Originally Posted by eliminatedsprinter View Post
    . . . Seriously, I can't imagine any possible reason a "conservative", especially a religious one, would feel the need to explain the above. Only "liberals" seem to feel the need to explain or share the guilt of other peoples actions. Most libertarians and true conservatives have too much respect for their own and others individuality to have such a shallow collectivist mindset..
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    The libs are cherry picking again. I wonder if they are scrutinizing those from their own party as well?

    Oh that's right, the double standards come into play here as they overlook tax cheats, communists, and those of alternative lifestyles from their so called party who currently sit in the administration of our country by the invitation of the only president to exceed Jimmy Carter in ineptitude in our nation's history.
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    Kind of a sad story. Fortunately the guy didn't kill himself in shame like many do. Harsh antiquated religious doctrine is the primary reason and justification for the ingrained hate and shame so many like him have to suffer through.
    If religions really had any true credibility, they, by now, would have all universally come out and said that god does not have anything against homosexuals. Similar to when the Mormon church came out with an epiphany that black people were OK.
    It is modern times folks. Religious and cultural intolerance needs to be eliminated sooner or later.

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    Severe behavioral problem,Muslims have a way of dealing with that.
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    "Staunch anti-gay conservative comes out" I always was suspicious of old Jesse Helms, republican senator from NC......"Doth protest to much".....He also was worried that communist Cuba was going to subvert the USA.....10 mil against 300 mil...

    Of course, a lot of religious conservatives believe the best way to take care of a scandal is to cover it up......witness the priest sex-abuse scandal.

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    Not sure ramadan, when you're at dinner tonight with barney fag ask him.

    When he has his limo drop you off at your mom's house in the morning you can post his reponse.
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    Liberals just chose to ignore relevant information about the world they live in, and then call themselves sophisticated for having chosen to be more stupid than God made them.

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    But Franks call boy operation from his house is OK with the NO Morals anything goes left?


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    The libs are cherry picking again. I wonder if they are scrutinizing those from their own party as well?
    Hey Doc, how many Democrats have a record of voting against gay rights and then come out of the closet? I think you GOP boys have a monopoly on that one. And the whole thing wouldn't be an issue if it wasn't for the GOP beating the "family values" drum and trying to legislate morality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    BBC News - US anti-gay rights senator Roy Ashburn comes out
    Roy Ashburn the GOP California state senator who has voted repeatedly against gay rights came out of the closet recently.Chalk up another example of GOP hypocritical sexual deviance.

    How do you conservatives, especially the religious ones, explain this? Why is it always the staunch anti gay legislators that end up secretly being gay themselves?

    Just to piss you Donkeys off

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    Hey Doc, how many Democrats have a record of voting against gay rights and then come out of the closet? I think you GOP boys have a monopoly on that one. And the whole thing wouldn't be an issue if it wasn't for the GOP beating the "family values" drum and trying to legislate morality.



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    I suppose you would have to be raising your own children to understand.
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    Seems like some are missing the point. Mr. Ashburn explained that he voted the way he did because that was what his constituents wanted. What a novel idea. Seems like Mr. Ashburn may be somewhat confused about his sexual orientation but pretty clear on who he works for.

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