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    .....on how long it takes the Left and O to halt all plans to build Nuke PP's in the US now that the Japanese NPP has suffered horrificdamage from the earthquake.

    They will likely revisit all permits on existing facilities to try and add bureaucratic redtape in the name of safety.

    These folks don't waste tragedies when they see an opening, witness the drilling moratorium and how it's inept implementation has literally destroyed oil production along with jobs.
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    Agreed!! I was thinking the exact same thing when all this started.

    Then I remember that San Onofre is only about an hour away.

    The thing I don't trust the most is the Japanese officials that are letting everyone know what the radiation levels are. Are these the same people that said the Toyotas are safe to drive?
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    It's too late. No one likes Nuclear Energy. There are very few who even knows anything about it or would even understand it. I myself have been lucky to be envolved in Nuclear Energy. I worked in an ship pulpultion. It's safe.

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    They never miss a tragedy to put a limit on anything. I think it was the day after Senator Giffords was tragically shot that the libs introduced legislation banning high capacity clips.
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    No doubt, there will be questions about tsunamis and nuke plants, and a new layer of permitting.

    Quote Originally Posted by getrdone View Post
    It's too late. No one likes Nuclear Energy. There are very few who even knows anything about it or would even understand it. I myself have been lucky to be envolved in Nuclear Energy. I worked in an ship pulpultion. It's safe.
    I googled that term and nothing came up. Please tell us what you do.
    I understand what nuclear power is to the extent of HS physics. But at least 50-100 million Americans understand the need for it. About all of here on the PRF like nuke power.
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    Now we know that putting them in active eartquake areas and near shore is not very prudent. (Think California here). We have one in Buckeye, Arizona near Phoenix. Very stable geographic location with no earthquakes, hurricanes, tsnamis, volcanoes, floods. etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBjet View Post
    No doubt, there will be questions about tsunamis and nuke plants, and a new layer of permitting.



    I googled that term and nothing came up. Please tell us what you do.
    I understand what nuclear power is to the extent of HS physics. But at least 50-100 million Americans understand the need for it. About all of here on the PRF like nuke power.

    "Ship Propulsion" maybe? Some gamma rays may have affected his spelling or typing neurons.

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    Unlikely, Bobo, rahmadan and holder the racist are all heavily invested in the nuke industry. One of the reasons the TIC is anti coal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Now we know that putting them in active eartquake areas and near shore is not very prudent. (Think California here). We have one in Buckeye, Arizona near Phoenix. Very stable geographic location with no earthquakes, hurricanes, tsnamis, volcanoes, floods. etc.
    Who said anything about putting one on or near a fault line?

    The point of the thread (let's stick with it, shall we? ) was that the O regime will use this catastrophe to further hamper construction of new nuclear power plants.
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    Liebermann already came out and stated the brakes needed to be applied to the nuclear energy program. It is my understanding that the earthquake did not damage the facility. But rather the lack of power (ironic) due to the seawater taking out primary and back up power is what led to the explosion. No electricity = no cooling of the fuel rods. Seems to me that there should be a relatively simple fix to that scenario going forward

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    Quote Originally Posted by havasu5150 View Post
    Liebermann already came out and stated the brakes needed to be applied to the nuclear energy program. It is my understanding that the earthquake did not damage the facility. But rather the lack of power (ironic) due to the seawater taking out primary and back up power is what led to the explosion. No electricity = no cooling of the fuel rods. Seems to me that there should be a relatively simple fix to that scenario going forward

    I fear everything will grind to a halt and that no disaster will be left without some agenda being undertaken.

    Question is what happened to the diesel back up gennies?
    The japanese are extremely thorough people.

    They could put a destroyer in harbor and generate power that way - (they cant use locomotives like in Montreal in the winter when ice storms cut the power to the city) as their transportation architecture is distributed to power the trains vs self power like the majority of ours are.

    They either fix the gennies on site and get them up or park a ship next door.

    Once they start using sea water as a coolant that "condemns" the reactor for any future use and they are avoiding that if at all possible.

    As it is it will take a long time to recover from this.

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    One of the most productive power-plant in the USA lies 55 miles West of Phoenix. It's the Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station. It also happens to be one of the safest power-plants on the earth proving that nuclear power can be effectively valuable when the facilities are properly built, operated and maintained.

    There are three reasons the Kenyan will never approve the building of a nuclear power plant in the United States of America:
    1 Because they reduce far too much dependence on foreign oil
    2 Because their productivity exceeds any green source by tens if not hundreds in power produced
    3 Because he has promised nuclear power every time he has spoken about energy for America and everything he has said so far has proven to be a lie.

    This administration will NEVER let a crisis go to waste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Texan View Post
    .....on how long it takes the Left and O to halt all plans to build Nuke PP's in the US now that the Japanese NPP has suffered horrificdamage from the earthquake.

    They will likely revisit all permits on existing facilities to try and add bureaucratic redtape in the name of safety.

    These folks don't waste tragedies when they see an opening, witness the drilling moratorium and how it's inept implementation has literally destroyed oil production along with jobs.
    Much as i hate to admit it the lefties have a bit of a leg to stand on.
    As smart as the Japanese are, for some reason they have under built their nuke plants.
    I think i read that they were designed to cover a 7.0.....and it seems little coverage was built in for a tsunami...
    Like they were almost gambling that a 7.0 would be the worst case scenario.....and a smaller tsunami....

    Tragic as the situation is, much can be learned from the disaster....more that enough to make nuke power as totally safe as anything could be. Don't build on known fault lines..not here anyway..build them all to handle a 9.0 with multiple redundant backup systems..have the ability for remote control...bury them in the ground with enough concrete to keep a lid on it if it all goes backwards..And i heard of maybe smaller installations....and new technology that uses up used fuel to the point where it's only dangerous for a few hundred years instead of thousands....

    Problem is the lefties won't even consider it now.......seems like they are really intent on making that left turn..even when it's obviously the wrong turn......sure glad we have obama for president...with every thing he does he just proves that left is a wrong turn...I guess better to get all of the mistakes out of the now...so we can get things turned around before we end up to far down the wrong road..
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