Congressional Reform ACT of 2011: So last week I receive

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    So last week I receive an Email about reforming Congress. I took a look at it and thought it needed a little work. I think my revisions are for the better ....see what you think, maybe some constructive critsism even ?

    If you like the list copy it and pass it one to 25 of your best friends. Maybe we can do something about this "broken" Government of ours: My revised list:

    Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.


    With that in mind:


    Congressional Reform Act of 2011 ( Proposed Constitutional Amendment)

    1. Impose Term Limits, (12 years only), one of the possible options below..

    A. Two Six-year Senate terms

    B. Six Two-year House terms

    C. One Six-year Senate term and three Two-Year House terms


    2. No Tenure / No Pension. ( for future Senators/Congressman)


    A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

    3. All future Congress' participates in Social Security.

    3.B Current and past Congress pensions are “means tested” I/E Mutli-millionares are ineligible ( McCain, Reid, Feinstien, Boxer, Kerry, Gore, Kohl, Issa etc. )


    4. Congress to purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.


    5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.


    6. Congress shall participates in the same health care system as the American people. ( As any large business of 536 employees does)


    7. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.


    8. All contracts with past and present Congressmen and family members are void effective 12-31-2013

    9. Congress shall pass a balanced budget ever year On or before Oct 31.

    For everyday the budget is not passed Congress shall forfeit a pro-rata share of their pay.


    10. Twice a year ( at six month intervals) Congress shall hold a "Corrections week" on the floor of the House to amend and correct any law that the Courts or the Federal Regulators have misconstrued, wrongly interpreted or have gone beyond the original intent of Congress.

    11. No bill shall include more than 5 items or be longer than 25 pages or 6,000 words. Every bill shall be posted on the Internet at least 72 hrs before it is read in it's etirity on the floor of the house before votes are taken.
    ( If the combined original Constitution and Declaration of Independence total only 6,001 words then no one law(Bill) need be longer than them)

    12. The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution shall be read in their entirety at the start of each session of Congress. Each and every member of Congress shall be present at the reading.

    ( The Declaration of Independence shall be read as to remind the elected official
    why our Forefathers rebelled against the King of England and his repressive ways)

    13. Congress shall fund an appropriate amount of money to protect and defend the Borders of the United States of America. If any State deems the Federal effort inadequate to protect the State the State may at it's own expense complete the task of protecting it's borders.

    14. There shall be no unfunded mandates imposed by the Federal Government upon any State.

    15. The Congress of the United States shall allow States to utilize the Natural Resources of the States to the benefit of the Citizen of that state and to the benefit of the Citizens of the United States of America. The Federal Government shall no-longer hinder states in this regard.

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    These initial 15 reforms shall be voted in first. More will come but these 15 will set us on the right track. Reforms such as immigration and health-care etc will follow.

    Thoughts .............................................


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    12 years in the government machine period. 2 terms in the senate, 6 in the house, whatever. But THAT'S IT. No future appointments as secretary of some bs department. No career bureaucrats. Serve your terms and then go get a real forkin' job.
    Also I'd like to see a senator or congressman required to show where in the Constitution it says that whatever bill they're proposing is kosher.
    And no unrelated 'attachments' added onto bills would be nice too.
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    Good idea, but I don't see it happening.
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    Looks good to me CP. Yes, there should be no unrelated attachments to any bill brought forward.
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    Looks good Jon.

    I have been of the opinion that we already have the power of term limits by way of the vote, but it is clear to Me now that that will never be an effective way of limiting terms.
    The list of hacks that repeatedly get voted in by constituents that rely on those hacks for their entitlements is appalling.

    For that reason I have changed my opinion and now agree with limits as You suggest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    Looks good Jon.

    I have been of the opinion that we already have the power of term limits by way of the vote, but it is clear to Me now that that will never be an effective way of limiting terms.
    The list of hacks that repeatedly get voted in by constituents that rely on those hacks for their entitlements is appalling.

    For that reason I have changed my opinion and now agree with limits as You suggest.

    There is a problem(s) with term limits ( we found them out in California).

    1. Accountability or lack-there-of. Politicians leave and the unelected bureaucrats stay.

    2. In California the politicians whom knew they wouldn't be around when the shit hit the fan they just kicked the can down the road.

    I think the list is a good start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Shelfo Sr. View Post
    Looks good to me CP. Yes, there should be no unrelated attachments to any bill brought forward.
    I thought about that, but instead I capped every bill at 6,000 words. If we had a Revolution and formed a new Republic with only 6,001 words I figure they can cover a lot of ground with 6,000 words or a max of 25 pages. They can have at it.

    Posting them 72 hrs in advance will help. It is up to us to keep a tab on them. I had thought about a provision restricting lobbyist, but that can come in the 1st Amendment to this Reform Act.

    We just need to wake up and take back our Country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forkin' Crazy View Post
    Good idea, but I don't see it happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeper CP View Post
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    I prefer the term "pessimist". It's been going around in emails. I have gotten it at least twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forkin' Crazy View Post
    I prefer the term "pessimist". It's been going around in emails. I have gotten it at least twice.
    I like my list far better.

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    Excellent points and a very good place to start getting "real change" back to the intent of the Founding Fathers......
    "Bottle by bottle, I'm clearing off that shelf...."
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