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    I am hoping people will finally get fed up and WAKE up. Unfortunately, it will probably have to get worse before that happens.

    Trying to keep it non-political so I will just tell what we are trying to do.

    Reduce our spending. We do not NEED to reduce it, but we do not know what the future holds. We are concerned that it will be very difficult for our son and his future family to maintain a decent lifestyle. We are planning to have to help in that regard. Don't get me wrong he will have work hard and be smart with his money or he will not see any from us. However, if he is a hard worker and keeps his nose clean then we will be there to make sure his family will be ok. Grand kids will not have to worry about collage etc...

    Just not sure what else to do. I guess in a nut shell is to try and build "family" wealth. Try to insulate ourselves from the effects of government as much as possible.

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    So how do we do it? We all know there is a problem, so how do you fix it? We all had high hopes for Obama, but with his message of change that has done nothing but fall pretty flat. So it is not a matter of republican or democrat it is how do we get someone in office that truly stands for the people and truly reduces runaway government spending. BTW Rex the movie nailed it on so many levels.
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    This is not the first time the US has encountered tough times. I can say from 60 years experience that it's all cyclical. It will get better and then worse again. One good thing I've observed is that more people in our country are more conscious of spending and saving, which is a very good thing . Let's not forget that regardless of our ups and downs, Americans continue to live in the best country in the world. Again, let's not forget this. Another thing I've noticed recently is that we seem to have become a nation of complainers. WTF???? My guess is that the majority of those on these boards who are the biggest complainers live wonderful and happy lives. Could things be better??? Always, But sometimes people forget how much worse it all could be.

    Also, I wish that people would understand that SS and medicare are not part our debt or deficit. If funding for these safety net programs, for our seniors, is not enough, weed out the waste and increase funding as needed. It's not rocket science.

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    I follow politics now quite a bit, not because I enjoy it but because I want to understand why we're in this mess. One thing I see everyone use is the term "we". This drives me crazy because too many times the person doing the talking doesn't represent me or my view. When I hear people say "we" all have to share in the sacrifice to save the country, I ask myself why? "We" includes way too many groups of people that don't have the same vision. Me, I'm a conservative. I'm also self employed, but I'm a one man show. If I don't go to work I don't get paid. If I screw up I have to pay the price to fix it If the government decides I didn't pay enough in taxes I get audited and penalized if they deem it insufficient. If my income doesn't cover my expenses I have a problem, not "we" have a problem. So when I here some tell me I need to contribute more, give more, trust more, do more, my first response is how much skin do you have in the game? What's your sacrifice? How much do you contribute? I personally don't think big government is the answer, rather more the problem. "We" have created this mess with people thinking that just being in America, citizen or not, they're entitled to a livelihood or life style. I shouldn't have to want. They've confused want with need. Our government currently is trying to be the provider for way too many families providing a roof, food, income, education, health care. Point I'm trying to make is, less than 50% of working Americans pay the bills for everyone! "WE" all need to be on the same end of the rope and pulling the same direction. As long as the people making the policies have personal agendas and ideals which they put before the good of the country, we're in trouble. As long as we allow people to choose not to be contributing members and leach off the rest of society we're in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra26 # 1 View Post
    This is not the first time the US has encountered tough times. I can say from 60 years experience that it's all cyclical. It will get better and then worse again. One good thing I've observed is that more people in our country are more conscious of spending and saving, which is a very good thing . Let's not forget that regardless of our ups and downs, Americans continue to live in the best country in the world. Again, let's not forget this. Another thing I've noticed recently is that we seem to have become a nation of complainers. WTF???? My guess is that the majority of those on these boards who are the biggest complainers live wonderful and happy lives. Could things be better??? Always, But sometimes people forget how much worse it all could be.

    Also, I wish that people would understand that SS and medicare are not part our debt or deficit. If funding for these safety net programs, for our seniors, is not enough, weed out the waste and increase funding as needed. It's not rocket science.
    It's interesting as Mike said I have not talked to one person who has good thoughts of where things are now and are headed.I personally think we have never seen anything like this in our past,things are completly different and complex with world trade and our dependence on foreign oil.Then being in three wars,Wall Street fiasco,unemployment,house foreclosures and banks not loaning money as was intended with their baleout.
    Trust me I have not failed to realize how much worse it could be,just pray it does not happen as many feel it will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cb1 View Post
    We all know there is a problem, so how do you fix it? We all had high hopes for Obama, ....
    Quote Originally Posted by ICECREAMAN View Post
    I follow politics now quite a bit, not because I enjoy it but because I want to understand why we're in this mess. One thing I see everyone use is the term "we". This drives me crazy because too many times the person doing the talking doesn't represent me or my view.

    Case in point. I never had one shred of expectation for the current admin. And in fact it is going just about how I thought it would. Maybe worse.

    One thing about the thread topic though, as it relates to our kids future, is that in a lot of ways there is little chance for them to have a life much like, say, my generation.
    Times change, generations are all different. All we can really do is try to instill a work ethic and they, and their generation, will make their own futures, for better or worse.
    There are certainly young people today with values instilled, and an understanding of how this Country came to be.
    But it seems that the educational system, specifically at the University level, has journeyed far from those roots.
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    The sky may be gray at times but it's not falling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandelon View Post
    I definitely think our kids and grandkids are going to have a tougher time of it.

    The Mandelon plan: Next years budget = last years revenues - 10%. The surplus goes to pay off the debt. Once its paid off, and then repay back the borrowed funds from Social Security. Then lower taxes.

    Cut out any non essential programs. Cut back all the others.
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    Having said that, my grandparents in the Depression had to put cardboard in their shoes. We haven't had that yet. Possibly because shoes are made offshore. Anyway, the expression "down at the heel" has left our vocabulary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet-Daytona View Post
    Mike,I have read all of your posts over the past several months of this delima we are in and honestly attempt to block the reality of it out my my mind.I decided to go the pool this afternoon and since this is an R-V Park there is an diverse population here and was interesting to talk to people from Canada to Texas and California to New Jersey. There is not a single person confident in our situation and scared of the future. While talking to people from different parts of the country I was watching the young families coming in to use the pool, the youngsters are so happy,excited and carefree.What is their future? we have no manufacturing,jobs,credit on and on.If all of us are in a world of hurt what about these poor souls. I feel someone has sold our country out some years ago and now coming to affect us in the worst way. I am worried the youth of our society will not enjoy the innocent life many of us enjoyed as the financial worries of families trickle down to the children in one way or another and add stress to their youthfull enjoyment.

    That is the wonderful thing about childhood! I have seen kids in impoverished areas in Mexico, Viet Nam , and the Phillipines playing and just having the time of their lives!! SO
    economic problems are not the end of the world unless it is so bad children are starving. Good post, but all is far from lost right now.

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    Yep!!! Things are just peachy and on schedule in Lib La-La land!!

    (Morning Z, good weekend?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    Yep!!! Things are just peachy and on schedule in Lib La-La land!!

    (Morning Z, good weekend?)
    How can you be negative??? You are the only guy I know who makes more money the further in the hole you get!

    It was a good weekened. Don't let this out, but yesterday I was wrenching on a Mercury 4 HP outboard kicker motor for my sailboat .

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    How can you be negative??? You are the only guy I know who makes more money the further in the hole you get!
    LOL! True!
    I am not negative, just aware.

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    It was a good weekened. Don't let this out, but yesterday I was wrenching on a Mercury 4 HP outboard kicker motor for my sailboat .

    Good Lord, a whacker AND a sailboat in the same sentence????
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    The last depression we still had our manufacturing base and that pulled us out, but in the 90's a executive branch push to bring China to democracy, our factories were traded (encouraged to move) along with a lot of propriety technology both industrial and Military,was also given to the Chicoms.

    Reinstating the MFN for China was the single most damaging event ever cast upon us, as our wealth has rebuilt that entire country and the Military there, these people have missiles aimed at us as well..
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    But it seems that the educational system, specifically at the University level, has journeyed far from those roots.
    I wanted to ask this question when it was in Open Water but now that it's in the PRF....

    How so? The university system has long since been at odds with the establishment both corporate and political. Are you referring to the large union based voting block for public schools or something else?
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