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    Mike,I have read all of your posts over the past several months of this delima we are in and honestly attempt to block the reality of it out my my mind.I decided to go the pool this afternoon and since this is an R-V Park there is an diverse population here and was interesting to talk to people from Canada to Texas and California to New Jersey. There is not a single person confident in our situation and scared of the future. While talking to people from different parts of the country I was watching the young families coming in to use the pool, the youngsters are so happy,excited and carefree.What is their future? we have no manufacturing,jobs,credit on and on.If all of us are in a world of hurt what about these poor souls. I feel someone has sold our country out some years ago and now coming to affect us in the worst way. I am worried the youth of our society will not enjoy the innocent life many of us enjoyed as the financial worries of families trickle down to the children in one way or another and add stress to their youthfull enjoyment.

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    Try selling land since these past few years with ZERO consumer confidence.
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    I'm assuming you don't mind others chiming it. You mentioned that someone sold us out. That may be true to a degree. I would argue that we sold ourselves out when we became a society of convenience, self indulgence and instant gratification. People have been living as if the world owes them something and what they feel entitled to does not match their effort or accomplishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodnJen View Post
    I'm assuming you don't mind others chiming it. You mentioned that someone sold us out. That may be true to a degree. I would argue that we sold ourselves out when we became a society of convenience, self indulgence and instant gradification. People have been living as if the world owes them something and what they feel entitled to does not match their effort or accomplishment.

    I ask the moderators Please do not move to Political,as IMO a very important issue for everyone to read and hopefully comprehend the situation we are in.

    P.S. RJ yes we did sell the country when let out Steel Mills and many other manufacturing plants to close and move overseas. Just saying!!

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    We all know we need to keep our money in the U.S. Quit buying cheap import junk and supporting those companies that have moved overseas. I personally am tired of calling india and arguing with them to get any warranty coverage..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet-Daytona View Post
    I ask the moderators Please do not move to Political,as IMO a very important issue for everyone to read and hopefully comprehend the situation we are in.

    P.S. RJ yes we did sell the country when let out Steel Mills and many other manufacturing plants to close and move overseas. Just saying!!
    That's my point. It is much more of a social issue than a political one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodnJen View Post
    That's my point. It is much more of a social issue than a political one.

    There are many who IMO do not have a clue what is coming. Just a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodnJen View Post
    I'm assuming you don't mind others chiming it. You mentioned that someone sold us out. That may be true to a degree. I would argue that we sold ourselves out when we became a society of convenience, self indulgence and instant gratification. People have been living as if the world owes them something and what they feel entitled to does not match their effort or accomplishment.
    I agree with this statement for the most part, but the question becomes how do we change the attitiude of entitlement....

    Perhaps by reducing or eliminating entitlement programs. Or at least getting after the fraudulent claims....as it tends to foster a "where's mine" attitiude.
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    I can see it this way, but i also believe that you choose and make your own destiney. Many children were raised in the 30's during the great depression, and that group did great things later on. While we dont have expanding mfg sectors, we have expanding technological job fields and other opportunities that they did not. I believe it boils down to....how hungry are you? Better make sure your hungrier than the other guy, or he will get your dinner
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodnJen View Post
    I'm assuming you don't mind others chiming it. You mentioned that someone sold us out. That may be true to a degree. I would argue that we sold ourselves out when we became a society of convenience, self indulgence and instant gratification. People have been living as if the world owes them something and what they feel entitled to does not match their effort or accomplishment.
    Agree. Too many years of endless prosperity with minimal effort and credit have wrecked alot of people's perspective on whats what. And the kids that were of age to notice this behavior and soak it in....are gonna have a hard time rolling up thier sleeves just to get by.
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    I definitely think our kids and grandkids are going to have a tougher time of it.

    The Mandelon plan: Next years budget = last years revenues - 10%. The surplus goes to pay off the debt. Once its paid off, and then repay back the borrowed funds from Social Security. Then lower taxes.

    Cut out any non essential programs. Cut back all the others.

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    I'm an older person,65 year old, I had it pretty good except for the last ten years, I've had to tighten up quite a bit in that time. I think the upcomming generation is going to have to restructure the whole way the USA operates this country. Too many things have been given away due to restrictions on pollution requirements put in effect here and the free trade agreements that have been implemented in the last 30 years. No import tax on most of the things that come here hurt our home base economy and force our manufacturing offshore to other countries.There is more to it but I think you get the drift of what I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet-Daytona View Post
    Mike,I have read all of your posts over the past several months of this delima we are in and honestly attempt to block the reality of it out my my mind.I decided to go the pool this afternoon and since this is an R-V Park there is an diverse population here and was interesting to talk to people from Canada to Texas and California to New Jersey. There is not a single person confident in our situation and scared of the future. While talking to people from different parts of the country I was watching the young families coming in to use the pool, the youngsters are so happy,excited and carefree.What is their future? we have no manufacturing,jobs,credit on and on.If all of us are in a world of hurt what about these poor souls. I feel someone has sold our country out some years ago and now coming to affect us in the worst way. I am worried the youth of our society will not enjoy the innocent life many of us enjoyed as the financial worries of families trickle down to the children in one way or another and add stress to their youthfull enjoyment.
    Quote Originally Posted by RodnJen View Post
    I'm assuming you don't mind others chiming it. You mentioned that someone sold us out. That may be true to a degree. I would argue that we sold ourselves out when we became a society of convenience, self indulgence and instant gratification. People have been living as if the world owes them something and what they feel entitled to does not match their effort or accomplishment.
    JD yes my posts do indicate how I feel about our future so I won't retype any of it, it's easily searchable.

    I will suggest as I have elsewhere that EVERYONE rent and absorb this movie. ... In my opinion it is everything that is wrong with our economy today. Corruption and greed know few limits.

    Inside Job - Movie Website for the Documentary Film

    Today in Parker at the boat races I spoke with many people. I did not come across one that was optimistic about the economy or their own situation for that matter. Many are just squeaking by. Many other are just not at the races (boat counts are suffering and there is one common denominator (no one has any money).

    With gasoline well on its way to $5 a gallon I certainly am not optimistic. An yes I feel our young people's futures are in great peril, as is our country's, as we know it.

    Rodjen I agree to a point but I think, as described in great detail in the movie link above, that many were simply baited into spending more than they could afford. Certainly some of the blame lies with individuals that overspent. I also believe the lions share of the responsibility for this mess lies within government , past and present, and with the wall street tycoons who walked away from all this scott free and very rich. The middle class is eroding away in the U.S. regardless of what the limited number that happen to be doing well right now would like you to believe. Our government is out of control and the wolves that caused the problem are still watching over the hen house.

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    I noticed that movie is on ppv on dish
    Last night
    Started to watch it but did not want to ruin my evening
    Talking with my children they say the smart ones are getting the best education and moving out of the USA
    They see this as the only way to keep a bigger part of what they earn
    My children cannot believe how much we pay in taxes and can't understand how many times the same dollar gets taxed
    So it looks to me this generation is going to bail on us and I don't blame them


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